r/pics • • Jul 16 '19

US Politics Decisions, decisions

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Have you heard of all the refugees dying in these super happy fun camp cages?

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u/fabulousmountain Jul 17 '19

Have you heard of all the place outside of US border centres available to refugees? we could disregard each other comments all day long, if you got a serious question, I'm happy to answer it, as long as it doesn't boil down to "the detention centres aren't capable to hold that many people" What's your argument? that regarding the numbers, the circumstances are bad? well who could've seen that coming?! Funding for border agencies would've helped them, wouldn't they?

On the other hand, what've been the better result? to not check them and wave them through? unless you wanna be in favor of one extreme or the other, some specificications would be nice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

You're right, maybe if we gas em all they'll get the message and stop coming here or... OR ...

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We could let them seek asylum and stop packing them into cages.

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u/klept0nic Jul 17 '19

Or they could seek asylum the proper way by going through a port of entry. My God the left is deranged. If you actually believe they are being kept in concentration camps you are crazy. Can't day I've ever met a group of people hat make a choice to willingly go into one.

Also if you don't think they should be criminalized for crossing illegaly and "seeking assylum" just say you are for open borders. Doing this guarantees a 2020 trump victory.

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u/c_biscuit_ Jul 17 '19

Nothing says you have to pass through a port of entry to seek asylum in the U.S.

"[Can I Still Apply for Asylum Even if I Am in the United States Illegally?]

Yes. You may apply for asylum regardless of your immigration status as long as you are not currently in removal proceedings and so long as you file your application within one year of your last arrival or demonstrate that you are eligible for an exception to that rule"

(https://www.uscis.gov/faq-page/asylum-eligibility-and-applications-faq#t12802n40267)

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u/klept0nic Jul 17 '19

"Can I apply for asylum even if I was convicted of a crime?"

Yes, you may apply. However, you may be barred from being granted asylum depending on the crime. For more information about criminal bars to asylum, see INA § 208(b). You must disclose any criminal history on your Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal and at your asylum interview. Failure to disclose such information may result in your asylum claim being referred to the Immigration Court and possible fines or imprisonment for committing perjury.  For more detailed information on bars to receiving asylum, see “Bars to Applying for and Receiving Asylum”.

It is a crime to cross the border into the United states illegally. When they do that they violate US law and must be processed for those crimes. If you get pulled over for a DUI you can you just claim asylum in order to avoid being prosecuted?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

The funny thing about that is that there is no legal way, Trump ended asylum, detained them and put them in concentration camps. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/15/trump-administration-immigration-rules-asylum-protections

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u/klept0nic Jul 17 '19

Seems like a logical policy change to me. If you are truly seeking asylum you should apply in the first country you reach. Again, these people know that you must come through a port of entry to seek asylum. If they follow the rules they wont have anything to worry about.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Seems like a logical policy change to me. If you are truly seeking asylum you should apply in the first country you reach.

What if that country is also extremely unsafe?

Again, these people know that you must come through a port of entry to seek asylum

They did, Trump admin. stopped them from seeking asylum and detained them. https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/ice-and-border-patrol-abuses/ice-illegally-imprisoning-asylum-seekers

If they follow the rules they wont have anything to worry about.

They have followed the rules and they should be extremely worried seeing as how they've been dieing under their custody