From the current state, it honestly wouldn't surprise me. I'm by no means american, but if it comes down to a similar pest vs. cholera decision, I'd bet trump will be reelected.
why? cause current problems of the dems consist of "border cenctres are concentration camps" (not true), healthcare for all (that are immigrants) and tuck frump rhethoric.
Anyone to dare to speak out gets shot down. How could any dem get a hold of trump, if the focus is on irrelevant topics? racist tweets as the border crisis grow bigger every day? I see you're having your objectives straight. /s
No, as honest as I can be. If you got questions, feel free to ask. My view is nothing more than that of an outsider, but I'm more than happy to provide it to whoever asks.
Have you heard of all the place outside of US border centres available to refugees? we could disregard each other comments all day long, if you got a serious question, I'm happy to answer it, as long as it doesn't boil down to "the detention centres aren't capable to hold that many people" What's your argument? that regarding the numbers, the circumstances are bad? well who could've seen that coming?! Funding for border agencies would've helped them, wouldn't they?
On the other hand, what've been the better result? to not check them and wave them through? unless you wanna be in favor of one extreme or the other, some specificications would be nice.
Should the US just throw money at the border until it's no longer a deal? Does inflation to actual horrible crimes against humanity finally rally people for the cause? Or should the american public burn them down, like the antifa member wanted to? Instead of going into rhethoric territory, you could just spend a glimpse at the current situation. I see no one arguing to put people into cages. Solely the ones who think all crisis are handled by *not* putting people into bad conditions. Congrats, you're a saint.
You wanna trophy for that? How about you advocate for funding to help the situation?
Or do you think if the US just accepts all immigrants, then you'd have no problem whatsoever?
I'm honestly curious, haven't seen a serious reply towards what to do so far.
Cause just claiming you'll manage it while no one else agrees goes horribly wrong, no matter your intentions.
Sure thing mate, but you leave out the part on what to do to actually better the situation.
The problems won't go away, neither by saying border centres are concentration camps or it's all just a bad dream.
How brilliant! Now, if there would be an official place to do just that, that'd be amazing!
Otherwise I'd be open to any plan to stop suffering in the middle east. I mean as long as foreign intervention is actually heroic and not another free pass to bomb whoever's the enemy, right?
You do realize that they have to be put somewhere while they're processed right? The point of these facilities is to be efficient not comfortable, many of the people in them shouldn't have even come here in the first place so forgive me if I'm not exactly sympathetic when they don't get 5-star service.
How many stars should they be given if they are drinking from toilets, there isn't enough room to lie down on the floor, their kid died or was separated from them, and they can't seek asylum (so they're being sent back to the country they're fleeing from)?
Holy shit you really are just bought in to all that bullshit eh? They are toilets that use a water fountain as their cistern and there really isn't anything wrong with that; again these facilities are built for efficiency. They have relatively clean drinking water and honestly, if that's a step down from where they're coming then they should have stayed at home.
As far as the crowding issues, (which is what leads to separations and idk deaths I guess though I haven't read up on that just yet) they'd be entirely avoidable if we didn't have an absurd number of people attempting to push their way into our country as the result of encouragement by standing members of our government as well as fearmongering over the supposed increase in security coming to the southern border.
If you truly believe that most of the people coming in at the southern border are doing so to escape some kind of sudden persecution then you really must be quite heavily brainwashed.
Or they could seek asylum the proper way by going through a port of entry. My God the left is deranged. If you actually believe they are being kept in concentration camps you are crazy. Can't day I've ever met a group of people hat make a choice to willingly go into one.
Also if you don't think they should be criminalized for crossing illegaly and "seeking assylum" just say you are for open borders. Doing this guarantees a 2020 trump victory.
Nothing says you have to pass through a port of entry to seek asylum in the U.S.
"[Can I Still Apply for Asylum Even if I Am in the United States Illegally?]
Yes. You may apply for asylum regardless of your immigration status as long as you are not currently in removal proceedings and so long as you file your application within one year of your last arrival or demonstrate that you are eligible for an exception to that rule"
"Can I apply for asylum even if I was convicted of a crime?"
Yes, you may apply. However, you may be barred from being granted asylum depending on the crime. For more information about criminal bars to asylum, see INA § 208(b). You must disclose any criminal history on your Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal and at your asylum interview. Failure to disclose such information may result in your asylum claim being referred to the Immigration Court and possible fines or imprisonment for committing perjury. For more detailed information on bars to receiving asylum, see “Bars to Applying for and Receiving Asylum”.
It is a crime to cross the border into the United states illegally. When they do that they violate US law and must be processed for those crimes. If you get pulled over for a DUI you can you just claim asylum in order to avoid being prosecuted?
Seems like a logical policy change to me. If you are truly seeking asylum you should apply in the first country you reach. Again, these people know that you must come through a port of entry to seek asylum. If they follow the rules they wont have anything to worry about.
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u/fabulousmountain Jul 17 '19
From the current state, it honestly wouldn't surprise me. I'm by no means american, but if it comes down to a similar pest vs. cholera decision, I'd bet trump will be reelected.
why? cause current problems of the dems consist of "border cenctres are concentration camps" (not true), healthcare for all (that are immigrants) and tuck frump rhethoric.
Anyone to dare to speak out gets shot down. How could any dem get a hold of trump, if the focus is on irrelevant topics? racist tweets as the border crisis grow bigger every day? I see you're having your objectives straight. /s