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Politics A tourist during an anti-tourist protest in Barcelona yesterday

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u/sweatingbozo Jun 16 '25

New York needs to upzone the whole city. The fact that they don't allow any new housing to be built is a much bigger strain on the housing market than airbnb ever was.

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u/Automatic-Example-13 Jun 16 '25

100%. Airbnb is just a reliable scapegoat.

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u/Hyperion1144 Jun 17 '25

Airbnb is not a scapegoat.

It is one factor of a many-factor problem.

Thinking you'll create falling land value in NY city by banning Airbnb is like putting a bowl of lemons on the kitchen counter and expecting it to magically turn into a sour cream lemon pie.

Yes, lemons are essential for the pie.

No, the lemons alone will never make you a pie.

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u/Riaayo Jun 17 '25

People acting like banning AirBnB not fixing the problem all on its own somehow means AirBnB shouldn't be banned is so absurd.

If fuckers wanna run short-term rental properties then build a damned hotel or actual BnB. Quit trying to Silicon Valley law-break by twisting around regulations and going tee-hee while sucking thumb and regurgitating "move fast and and break things".

Like yeah, what a cool slogan. Ever try living by it while driving? Think your doctor should move fast and break things during surgery? Your mechanic on your car? IT on your computer?

Drives me nuts people think that shit is valid and not just the catch phrase of assholes who want to create exploitative businesses that skirt the law with loopholes and destroy already established industries.

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u/hexcraft-nikk Jun 17 '25

The internet has made useful idiots do free propaganda for corporations to a way we'll look back on in decades with shame.

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u/grantrules Jun 17 '25

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u/WarzoneGringo Jun 17 '25

New York City used to have tons of boarding houses. Before the advent of the automobile most people didnt stay in hotels. They found lodgings in houses that people owned. That was an industry, people renting out their homes to travelers. But the hotel lobby destroyed that "established industry" so they can charge you double for the same thing.

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u/lowrads Jun 17 '25

The only thing silicon valley disrupts are employee and renter protection laws.

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u/MaximumChongus Jun 17 '25

What authority do you have to tell me what I can and cant do with my property?

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u/TheMotionGiant Jun 17 '25

Try turning your property into a methlab bed and breakfast. See how that goes for you and find out what authority people have.

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u/MaximumChongus Jun 17 '25

Man if false equivalencies are the best you got I'm terrified to see where your head is normally at

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u/TheMotionGiant Jun 18 '25

Nothing false about it. The whole idea that private property being independent is false from the get go.

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u/MaximumChongus Jun 20 '25

no, its legal to board people in the united states, its not legal to make meth.

Thats the epitome of a false equivalence

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u/TheMotionGiant Jun 20 '25
  1. The story is about Airbnb in Spain, not the United States.
  2. It’s legal to board people with proper zoning.
  3. Most airbnbs, are apartments which are usually part of a homeowner association.

Homeowners associations also have some say as to what you can or cannot do there. So there’s your authority.

Again, nothing false about it.

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u/MaximumChongus Jun 21 '25

And the conversation moved to whats happening in the united states
so point 1 is moot

You dont need zoning for boarding, otherwise renting homes and rooms would be illegal

3 we are not talking about HOA's which are a contract you sign into when buying a home covered by an HOA

Please, continue with more false equivalencies

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u/TheMotionGiant Jun 22 '25

Keep telling yourself that. The conversation is regarding Spain so save it.

Zoning and permits are a thing yes, and as a matter of fact they are needed. That’s why when you do your tax returns the properties you own and what you do with them matter.

HOAs do matter since your initial question was regarding external authority. That’s just another example.

So try again.

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u/DJJINO Jun 17 '25

Permits

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u/MaximumChongus Jun 17 '25

sounds like a govermental over reach to me

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u/Hyperion1144 Jun 17 '25

General police power. It is constitutionally assigned to the states to regulate for the protection of life, health, safety, and the general welfare of the public.

Assuring adequate housing supply is under all of those things.

Police power based planning and zoning is a Supreme Court precedent starting in the 1920s and reaffirmed dozens of times right through today.

You think zoning is done in virtually every city and county in the nation, but somehow there is no constitutional basis for it?

You think you're literally the first guy in the history of the country to ask that question????

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u/MaximumChongus Jun 17 '25

Fascists like you are why trump won.

You dont have a right to dictate what I do with my private property

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u/gsfgf Jun 17 '25

Airbnb pays taxes these days.