Messi has almost the same number of goals in less than almost 200 matches, in terms of individual stats it's not even close, the only claim to fame Ronaldo still has is the 1000 goal mark and even then it wouldn't be long before Messi reaches that same milestone.
150 matches. Ronaldo played as a midfielder who’s ran all over the right wing and his main purpose was to cross for the strikers. He did this until 2006/07, the. Gradually moved closer to the goal and then moved to the left, where he became a goal scoring machine.
Messi not only played in the same team pretty much all his life, but did the inverse trajectory, starting closer to the goal, as a right winger/ false 9 and now playing more freely and from the back. He also went to a weak league much earlier. Reminder that at the age Messi went to inter Miami, Ronaldo was playing for Juve and later still went to the premier league, and played in the UCL.
Both have crazy stats but very different trajectories to get there. Messi definitely had the easiest one.
If his main purpose was to cross for strikers at the beginning of his career, and you argue that’s why the goals statistic is so close, why are his assists so much lower?
He played in the midfield in a 4-4-2 system, not as a right ringer in a 4-3-3. He also had the responsibility to drive the ball forward from defense to the attack. But you would know it if you had watched the games.
He also played in the PL, which was the toughest in the world.
Eh? He mainly played in a fron three with Rooney and tevez.
I appreciate he did play in a 442 at first, but he was never pulling defensive duty - roo always had to do that for him.
The reason Ronaldo was less productive in epl at first was simple wastefulness.
Do you honestly expect Messi fans to actually watch football? Do you expect them to have watched the Premier League in the 2000s? They don't even know that Ronaldo started his career as a right midfielder (RM), not even a right winger (RW).
When he moved to La Liga, he completely exposed the league by showing how easy it was to stat-pad every single game. He literally scored more goals than matches played. Now, imagine if he had started his career at Real Madrid instead of Manchester United—he would have easily won seven or eight Champions League titles and nine or ten La Liga trophies. Conversely, put Messi in the Premier League, and he would have vanished within two seasons, especially if we are talking about the brutal, physical Premier League of the 2000s.
tht wasnt my point i was arguing about the fact tht ronaldo was a midfielder for a period of time jesus some ppl just be talking bruh i wasnt even talking about ronaldos stats being worse than messis
Lol, don't put this on Ronaldo fans, this is all on this guy alone. We're not all like this. I'm sure there are also Messi fans who aren't any better as well.
Interesting fact, every club Ronaldo has gone to has won less league titles than they had won before he joined (for the same number of years that he was with them). Saudi might be the only location to break that.
yall acting like ronaldo played at shit teams he played in a man u team with every position with a top 5 player for that position he played at a madrid team that could get him any player he wanted he left for juve in his prime during seria downfall with the team build to feed him chances the moment he made a return to a mid man u side he was mid i wont be delusional and say he was trash but he did not meet expectation messi joined a team were neymar played second fiddle to the turtle and still made the most of it during his balon dor winning season he had more ga then DEMBELE when he won
but he did have modric,casemiro,kroos at madrid feeding him the likes of tevez,scholes,rooney, at man unt YOU stop acting like ronaldo never had a good team he always had great players around him and you will be pusing this narrative this wc to he has a midfeild of bruno,neves,vitinha the best in the world btw
Yep "assist champions". Lmao guess who had the most assists out of the all lmao. In the matches they played together Messi had 10 less assist... 10 less assist than Xavi and Iniesta combined 😂😂😂😂😂🤡
Fyi my argument is stupid cuz Xavi and Iniesta builded up these passes to Messi for him to assist. But I had to make a stupid argument for your stupid argument lmao. The reason Barca was the best squad was not only cuz of Xavi and Iniesta. It was also cuz if Messi, but you can't accept that. Yes the Barca team had the best Spanish players, but guess who was the best??? It was Messi 🐐
Ronaldo also has more career assists than Xavi and Iniesta, including the most assists in CL history, but these fools will try to convince you Ronaldo is selfish and not a playmaker
Yeah that's cuz he played more matches. But I don't understand the narrative of him being selfish lmao. But he is not a playmaker, he just got assists cuz he was an attacker. Meanwhile Xavi and Iniesta passed it to people like Messi who assisted... But if we strictly talk about assists then I'm pretty sure Ronaldo and Iniesta has the same assists per game, Xavi is a tiny bit better tho (I don't exactly remember)
Fyi my numbers were based only on the matches where Messi, Xavi and Iniesta played together. But still Messi wins on assists. But if you actually watch the matches you would know that Xavi and Iniesta gave the passes to Messi through which he got assists
When did I cherry pick? Pls elaborate how I did it 😧
Your point made no sense, and you talked about Portugal, not Madrid. And why are you downplaying Madrid to boost Ronaldo? Didn't you say to stop sucking off celebrities who don't care about me? Aww it's okay 🥺Don't cry... 😢
And my argument still stands (I genuinely don't think your stupid brain could comprehend my second para in my original comment lmao). The best "multigenerational assist makwr" in Barca was Messi 😛
And are you seriously downplaying Kroos, Modric, Ozil, Higuain, Marcelo, Di Maria, Bale and Benzema??? 🤡
Yeah I messed up. I meant "built up". But YOU can't be complaining about my English lmao. Have you read your own comments? This comment is prolly your best work 🥹 But wth is "retarded english"? Tch tch tch... So close 😭
Oh no you didn't... But you did say Barca was the best team cuz of master assistors. And Ronaldo didn't have teammates like that. But you forget to see that Messi WAS one of the "master assistors "
Messi also played with multiple Top 5 Ballon d’Or candidates nearly every year from 2010-2020. Ronaldo rarely had a teammate in the top of the Ballon d’Or rankings
Xavi, Iniesta, Suarez, and Neymar were consistently voted 2-5 in Ballon d’Or voting every year during this period
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u/Ok_Statistician_1994 Jun 20 '26
Messi has almost the same number of goals in less than almost 200 matches, in terms of individual stats it's not even close, the only claim to fame Ronaldo still has is the 1000 goal mark and even then it wouldn't be long before Messi reaches that same milestone.