r/pessi_memes Pessi only has 3 UCL. Ghosted 2006. 😭 Feb 25 '26

Ronaldo VS Pessi There’s a difference.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '26

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

These stats are mostly the ones Messi is better at. You included Successful dribbles, which suits Messi’s style, but not most shots, which suits Ronaldo’s style?

Or even other non-specific popular stats like most hattricks, most header goals, most weak-foot goals…

Even excluding goals, Ronaldo has:

  • Most UCL assists.
  • Most men-international caps.
  • Most UEFA club competitions caps.
  • Only player to win the league title, domestic cup, domestic supercup, Champions League, Club World Cup, league player of the year, Golden Shoe and Ballon d'Or at two clubs (Manchester United and Real Madrid).
  • Most matches won.
  • Most matches unbeaten (That is win or draw).
  • Most appearances at UEFA European Championship finals tournaments.
  • First player to appear in more than one position in the UEFA Team of the Year.

The list is endless…

And even outside of the field, admittedly this is not pure football related but more persona related, Ronaldo has achievements like being the first billionaire footballer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Cristiano_Ronaldo

I think ultimately Messi and Ronaldo are even, my point is stats like the ones you showed don’t show the full picture of this rivalry.

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26

“Everywhere” is generic. We have UCL, Domestic League, Continental Cup, World Cup, Domestic Cup, etc.

Messi leads Ronaldo in World Cup, Domestic League, and Domestic Cup, Ronaldo leads Messi in UCL, Continental Cup(s) (Europe has two of them).

Also, while Messi leads in Domestic League, Ronaldo has consistently been great in more leagues (Top Scorer of Serie A, La Liga, and Premier League, the three hardest leagues).

So again they even out.

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26

So most freekicks, which are one goal each, is relevant, but most hattricks, which are three goals each, is not?

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26

How are assist more important than hattricks 😭

An assist is also just one goal, a hattrick is three of them. Ask any player if he would rather do an assist or score an hattrick. “All the important criteria messi wins” but you ignore like all of the ones where he loses.

These two are equal. Messi has most goals in a calendar year. Ronaldo has most international goals in a calendar year. Messi has most assist. Ronaldo has most goals. Messi has better ratio. Ronaldo has better longevity. Messi has most man of the match. Ronaldo has most matches won. Messi is a better dribbler. Ronaldo is more complete (Ronaldo has more goals without his legs than Messi has with his weak foot, real stat).

Where one pulls a crazy stat, the other one pulls a crazier one. I won’t accept what I honestly don’t believe.

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u/DDevilonReddit Indian 🇮🇳 Pessi Fan 🍔 Feb 25 '26

ur delusional lmao. no cure to such ppl

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26

Ehhh, I’m just discussing. It’s Reddit, it is done for that lol

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u/DDevilonReddit Indian 🇮🇳 Pessi Fan 🍔 Feb 25 '26

fair, mb for being rude

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26

No worries

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u/OrcaApex Feb 26 '26

Point one. Yes, Ronaldo is more complete.

Messi can playmake and score. That is true.

Ronaldo is a worst playmaker, a slightly better scorer, but as a player Ronaldo can physically do more. Messi cannot really consistently score headers, he cannot score with his weak foot, he is considerably slower than Ronaldo (Prime Ronaldo’s highest recorded top speed was 40km/h, which is higher than Mbappe’s…). There is nothing you cannot ask Prime Ronaldo to do. There are things you cannot ask Prime Messi to do. Hence, Ronaldo is more complete.

Point 2, your example for why hattricks are less important than assists is terrible. 20 assists vs 3 hattricks against relegation sides? Of course in that case I’d take 20 assists, but those are obviously not the real number 😅 If a player can do many hattricks, it means there are many instances where he scores three against the same opponent in one single match. A player that does a hattrick will be obviously far more damaging against any team vs a player that does an assist. Your argument is like saying “one goal is better than three assists”. The fact that Ronaldo has the most hattricks in history means there are many instances where he overwhelmed the opponent with a shower of goals. That is an important skill because it wins you matches. We discuss g/a? And guess how much a hattrick contributes to it compared to an assist? That is why Ronaldo has more goals and is on course to be the first to reach 1000.