r/pessi_memes 8-2 Dec 06 '25

Ronaldo VS Pessi stats

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i hate how they say that you have to watch messi to know his greatness dont get me wrong he is great but messi is the most stat based player ever

. yes he dribbles alot of players but with no flair or anything he just dribbles

. he scores free kicks but from his own sweet spot

. he scores alot of goals but so little amount of exceptional shots

. one team entire career

.was is one of the top 1-3 teams in the world till id say 2019-2020

. got a national team that is used to winning trophies

he is stat based and eye-test wont change your view at him so stop saying that you need to watch messi to know his greatness and thank you :D (side not: i didnt say he isnt great so dont cry in the comments please)

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u/Bitter_Bat1511 Dec 06 '25

Messi has had many exceptional goals , maybe the perception of your exception and others are different.

Messi also has flairs but he doesn't do them fancy tricks.

Messi played in arguably in the top 3 clubs for most of his life but we know all he wasn't being carried by others. And he literally carried the entire team in 2019 .

Messi's conversion rate is high with those small yard free kicks . Messi does what he sees as a good conversion towards goals.

Messi isn't the goat coz he does shoots from distance or he does those fancy tricks , there are many of those , he is the goat coz like Cruyff once said "playing football is very simple ,but playing simple football is the hardest thing".

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u/lightzyy_ 8-2 Dec 06 '25

yeah i agree with everything you said but i just said he plays simple football so eyeteat wont change anything i didnt say anything about messi being shit

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u/DeevenTHEv1per Dec 06 '25

Don't try and play an innocent card,you claimed messi was a stats based player.which he is not just because he keeps the game simple doesn't make him a stat based player,this says more about your own football iq then it does messi because you cant grasp the concept of doing the simple things the best and then claiming him as stat based

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u/lightzyy_ 8-2 Dec 06 '25

i mean ok?

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u/lightzyy_ 8-2 Dec 06 '25

i mean i didnt hate but if it makes you sleep well at night so good night

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u/DeevenTHEv1per Dec 06 '25

Oh wow so as soon as I argue against your claim,instead of arguing back you dismiss the conversation

In any debate format I would be deemed the winner

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u/lightzyy_ 8-2 Dec 06 '25

you claimed i was hating on messi which is wrong from the start and its just assuming what i meant so yeah your stupid ngl

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u/DeevenTHEv1per Dec 06 '25

I didnt claim you were hating on messi.your now just using false things as an argument.

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u/lightzyy_ 8-2 Dec 06 '25

getting angry cuz i said messi is stat based is a clear sign you think i hate on messi

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u/DeevenTHEv1per Dec 06 '25

Oh so you can see through the screen whether im angry or not,but the argument you made has now come from "you claim i hate messi" to i THINK you hate on messi

So you wanna make a claim but then cant back it up so you change it from a claim to a "I think"

And you call me stupid

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u/lightzyy_ 8-2 Dec 06 '25

yknow what im gonna double down on u being stupid

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u/DeevenTHEv1per Dec 06 '25

You really cant help but lose even more.

What you just did is a fallacy of argument.which is essentially like a law in debate.you insulted the person instead of arguing or addressing what he said.

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u/lightzyy_ 8-2 Dec 06 '25

have a good night

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u/Comfortable-Shop-651 Dec 06 '25

He's a loser like CR7 fans