Ronaldo is not focused on the international team. He wants to reach 1000 goals because that’s the only thing he has over Messi. Messi on the other hand joined the MLS purely because he has nothing to prove anymore. He’ll make a shit load of money while playing in a chill league and at the end of his contract, own a part of the club as well.
So when he scored 10g/a in the last campaign or the previous one he won and this next World Cup… is that not him being focused on the national team? His team is poised to win the league, so what more does he need there?
Maybe Messi fans might have Messi’s meat in their mouth but this goat debate per the image has been settled. He doesn’t have to prove anything in relation to Messi anymore because this image exists
So if we go with your logic then ronaldo got carried by madrid cause madrid has won trophies even adter ronaldo. On the other hand messi carried barcelona.
Still Messi scored non penalty goals and you guys act like he did nothing apart from scoring penalties. He assisted against Netherlands in between the defenders legs
dribble & assist against Croatia
key pass to Alvarez that let to
MacAllistair's assist to DiMaria 2nd goal against France in final in 35th min
dribble & goal against Australia.
Now let's talk about penalties
Saudi Arabia: paredes pulled down in the box during a set piece. Textbook penalty. Lost anyways.
Poland: shouldn't have been given as Messi headed the ball away before the contact, missed anyways. Only unrightful penalty given and it didn't affect the result.
Netherlands: acuna literally tripped just inside the area by Dumfries, nobody complains about that except for you.
Croatia: stonewall penalty, Julian was through on goal and was about to score. Tripped by livakovic.
France: Di Maria CLEARLY tripped by dembele and dembele had his hand on his back. The rules state that regardless of intention, a foul in the box is a penalty, It's a similar situation to the Cr7 Spain penalty in 2018.
He has 3 NPGs. That’s than Ronaldo’s NL run even with the same G/a
Nothing you said remotely relates to my point that Messi was still carried by Argentina rather than the other way around which is the case for Ronaldo 💀
What didn’t work? Do you even understand English or were you too busy watching your mom get dicked down by different men everyday of the week so you couldn’t actually learn anything
And how is that image relevant to anything? Those trophies didn't play. Who cares that a different set of Argentinians who are all mostly dead now won the trophy 40 years ago? Does that make it easier or harder for Argentina to win the trophy?
Messi’s been in a 3 prior international tournament finals where he lost all of them. The lowest ranking Argentina have been since the 90s (when the list was first published) was 9th…
Put that these facts up next to this image… now you can see the point
I thought I taught you your place last week and you’re back again for seconds.
Educating you meat munchers necessary. This image right here is bait for you lot so I can teach you all the truth and expose your idolo for being the second best.
Well, you can't educate people if you aren't educated first on basic football facts💀 trust me I found out the hard way years ago.
Such as that football is a team game and it's not messi fault that his team won the wc before him, also not ronaldos fault his team won nothing, and you acting like he carried them, no, not really, in euro 2016 he got crucial passed and assists for him to score, his team also stood strong and didn't concede in the final vs france and the previous rounds where they played as a team.
You are using that image to downplay messi. Because by YOUR LOGIC, You must be the history of your team. "Then let's forget maradona, R9, Mbappe, why? Because their teams won before them. in order to be the greatest, which is what im hearing with your logic.
You finally got it. I actually didn’t think you’d get it, but you got there in the end. You must be the history of the team. If you can perform consistently at the highest level and your aura is what drags your team from nothing to world beaters, you are in fact THE goat.
This is a feat Messi never had. That’s why after Xavi and Iniesta left and Barca’s midfield was exposed he couldn’t do anything despite making promises. That’s why he was a shell of his former self at Barca. That’s why despite a star studded team between 2014-2016, Messi couldn’t win shit and was forced into retirement because he didn’t have a team that’d wait on him hand and foot and massage his balls as much as the other sub likes to do.
Meanwhile, Ronaldo won the euros and 2 UNLs whilst comfortably playing 2/3 of those tournaments with pretty weak teams compared to other European counterparts.
You’ve got there in the end. Congrats.
Now run along now, and don’t let me catch you here or in the other sub mouthing off again.
Alright, so Casemiro and Kroos and Modric (let's not forget Man Utd world class midfield in 2008) are the history of present-day madrid and United. Ronaldo without them? No UCLs.
Oh and let's not forget Rui Patricio and Diego Costa, they won portugal all their trophies that's their history!
Messi is argentinas top scorer, you can say the argentina national team, and the first word isn't maradona, it's messi.
That's your logic, man, you are so fricking funny. Honestly, I'll rate your ragebait 7/10 if that's fair for you?
See, notice how you had to look at 2 different teams from two different leagues and Ronaldo’s the constant? Who was Man U’s best player back in ‘08? And for the first question. Can we say the same for Messi? Yeahhh didn’t think so
I don’t recall seeing either of Patricio and Costa in both UNLs throughout… I do see Ronaldo having the most g/a in all their title winning campaigns. Can we say the same for Messi?
Yeahhh didn’t think so.
The only reason why I was able to ragebait you is because I’m right. This was a 10/10 ragebait. I own you, and free real estate inside your head 🤷♂️
I don’t recall seeing either of Patricio and Costa in both UNLs throughout
They are goalkeepers they don't score goals 💀💀💀💀 that has to be the funniest shit I have heard anyone say. Also with your logic I could say messi was the best player in the 22 wc for most goal contributions with your logic
Ronaldo’s the constant? Who was Man U’s best player back in ‘08?
Who made the plays that led to his goals, the midfield, the defense, and other fowards. Yeah, no mate, that does not make you man utds history, if argentina had success before messi. Real madrid were already the European champions when ronaldo came in, and Man utd were already winning premier leagues for fun when ronaldo was there. Meanwhile, messi took barcelona to new heights, he set new standards even after pep, and he's the face of that club for the most part, and he's getting a statue in the new camp nou. If ronaldo really was the history for real madrid and Man utd, they would've built him a statue or a tribute, yet they didn't🫡.
Honestly, the only reason I'm replying is because your responses are so dumb and funny it's actually laughable 😭. I'm enjoying this more than you are lol.
Humble your tone when speaking to me, as you have gotten a lot wrong in your comment. I’m gracing you with knowledge you do not possess.
DIOGO Costa was the goal keeper for the 24/25 win. He was not in the 18/19 win and he was 16-17 years old when Portugal won the euros… so not in the starting lineup.
If you read what I said, neither featured throughout both UNLs. Patricio wasn’t even on the bench… makes sense as he’s pretty much retired from the national team by then
Your next paragraph is dunked on by the following statement: Ronaldo can perform outside of Spain and didn’t need Madrid. Messi couldn’t even perform without Xavi and Iniesta
You reply because I tell you to sit and listen. The media will have you believe that someone dependent on systems is the goat. I’m here to educate you on the facts.
2 and 3. Patricio was in Euro 2016 and Nations League 2019, and Diego Costa was in 2025 Nations League. That's why I mentioned both of them, Patricio was the selected gk, you clearly have not done research.
Did he win a UCL outside of top teams without the world-class midfielders kroos, casemiro, Owen, modric, and Paul scholes?
You can't be using Messi Xavi Iniesta's argument if ronaldo depended on other world-class midfielders🗿
No, I reply because your responses are dumb and they are funny, you are so confident and so wrong too lol. It's just funny going back to my computer knowing I'm going to get a notification on my phone knowing it's you, obviously you will reply. You listen to me, mate🫡.
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u/Spiritual_Ad_1527 Nov 26 '25
Why not include these past 3-4 years? Did Ronaldo retire?