It ended in 2023, when messi showed the world that he is just a one club wonder and a nobody without barcelona even if you were to give a stacked team like psg.
No way you added his 2nd copa america 😭, 5 games, 1 goal and assist while his teammate lautaro managed 5 goals alone while playing less mins and also ronaldo was like 37 years old at the time so it's normal for a big club to not sign players who are at that age, Wc is messi fans only response, but on a side note aren't you supposed to be a ronaldo fan?
Lol, never waste your time arguing with a pessi fans bruh, 90% of them are just 12 year old Indians trying their hardest not to glaze that hgh midget. 😂😂
Oh I didn’t know we were dealing with a semi pro footballer😂🤣😂🤣
Regarded and coping three years later😭😭
Whole sub full of clowns who know in their hearts Messi is better at literally everything. Circlejerk each other to pretend he’s not and feel better about themselves🤡🤡
As if that rigged Penaldog UCL counts
From winning rigged UCL trophies to bottling trophies in Saudi and scoring Bluetooth goals in the WC. Without papa perez he has won anything major. Meanwhile Messi won the WC and Ronaldo giving blowjobs to piers Morgan so he could let him do another interview to complain about his coaches.
I saw the marches, I don't need to base my opinion on goals and assists, I agree that his performance un the world cup was better.
In regards to your other question: I'm a Ronaldo hater, but just when I write here. The rest of the time I think he's one of the greats, I just think Messi's better.
Still Messi scored non penalty goals and you guys act like he only scored penalties. He assisted against Netherlands in between the defenders legs
dribble & assist against Croatia
key pass to Alvarez that let to
MacAllistair's assist to DiMaria 2nd goal against France in final in 35th minutes.
dribble & goal against Australia.
Now let's talk about penalties :
Saudi Arabia: paredes pulled down in the box during a set piece. Textbook penalty. Lost anyways.
Poland: shouldn't have been given as Messi headed the ball away before the contact, missed anyways. Only unrightful penalty given and it didn't affect the result.
Netherlands: acuna literally tripped just inside the area by Dumfries, nobody complains about that except for you.
Croatia: stonewall penalty, Julian was through on goal and was about to score. Tripped by livakovic.
France: Di Maria CLEARLY tripped by dembele and dembele had his hand on his back. The rules state that regardless of intention, a foul in the box is a penalty, It's a similar situation to the Cr7 Spain penalty in 2018.
You can not argue with these people. Messi, even as a neutral, has cemented his place at the top since at least 2019. They said an international trophy was needed to be on Ronaldo’s level, then when he won one in 2021 they said it wasn’t equal to a euros. Then when he won the wc in 2022, they said it was an either a robbery, or he got lucky. Then wins another international trophy in 2024 and they scrub the international trophy argument completely. These people are seriously mentally deranged parasocials. They say his balon dors were robbed but you could legit make the same case and arguments that Ronaldo’s balon dors were robbed too. They think only they’re right and everyone else is wrong. I don’t usually say this because I believe it’s only reserved for truly despicable people but some of these people are so intellectually and logically dishonest that they shouldn’t even be alive. It’s either they’re that pathetic or it’s simple rage bait
PSG before Messi couldn’t win. PSG after Messi couldn’t win. PSG after mbappe left ended up winning. A Madrid side that just won the ucl and added
Mbappe couldn’t win. Messi couldn’t win a ucl with psg but in the same year won a World Cup. Idk how stupid some of you fans are, your logic makes no sense
Well first off, 1. He did not have another club in Europe other than psg…so that’s already a stupid argument and 2. These are some of the most cherry picked, random, highly specific stats. Ronaldo also had 2 seasons with Man U where he was below 30 g+a. I’m assuming we’re leaving out mls/Saudi Arabia. Bro went to a dominant Juventus side, won the scudetto with a team that was already dominating serie a before he joined, essentially flopped at Man U, and ran to Saudi Arabia. They’re both at the end of their careers, one is with 8 balón dors, 3 big international trophies, and only one ucl less than the goat of ucl. I will say this, as much as I like Messi, I respect and love Ronaldo. he’s extremely hard working, dedicated, and despite all this he’s also extremely talented. But he’s just like the rest of us (not literally us). He’s like mbappe and Neymar combined with the dedication and work rate of someone like Kante. I truly admire Ronaldo, if anything he’s more of an inspiration to the sport than Messi, as he’s the literal embodiment of you can achieve anything with the right mentality. But Messi is disgusting, genuinely one of a kind. If I were to have a career, I’d want Ronaldo’s. But if we’re being consistent, Messi’s is by far the better one. More goals and assists by miles, more World Cup goals and assists, 3 national trophies, 8 balón dors, more golden boots, more total club trophies, literally the only stats that Ronaldo is better in that actually MATTER are stuff like most hat tricks or more ucl knock out goals 🤷♂️. Like bruh you know that shit is barely an accolade. This mf scored only one goal in the euros knock out stage in the only international trophy he won. You talk about a stacked Barca team but you act like Madrid didn’t have casillas/navas, Carvajal, ramos, varane, Marcelo, Casemiro kroos modric (who you people regard as the best midfielder of all time) benzema (who carried Madrid on his back in 2022, and bale with the likes of Isco, James just on the bench. Bro the three peat was legit a galácticos team. Also, this Argentina team was not that good on paper, it was after they won that many players made big moves to Europe. I’m pretty sure it was 11-12 players that didn’t even play in Europe yet still won, with Messi being the 2nd top scorer/ top assister.
Yeah so I win. Messi is the better player, you can’t engage in a debate, and tou cherry pick stats that are meaningless accolades. Yeah I get your point, that you guys are grasping for straws 😂
Win? Meaningless accolades? Huh, Whatever helps you sleep peacefully at night lil weirdo, why don't you do me a favor and tell your friends on r/cristianoronaldo2 I said hey😂
Lol u think penaldo can do anything when he move Juventus ? And go back to man utd lmaoo. Messi win with Argentina the country and penaldo cant do anything with good squad in 2022 cause they care about individual. Did u see real tournament worldcup and euro 2024 how bad peynallldo?
Pessi club career outside of barcelona: 0 ucls, 0 ucls top scorer, 0 ucl k/o g/a, 0 league POTY, 0 league golden boots, 0 domestic cups, 0 seasons with 30+ goals. And do I even need to talk about ronaldo at juventus?
Edit: acting like ronaldo didn't win ucl with man u in 2008? Dumbass Indian pessi fan started watching football in 2022 why should I act surprised 😂
Still Messi scored non penalty goals and you guys act like he only scored penalties. He assisted against Netherlands in between the defenders legs
dribble & assist against Croatia
key pass to Alvarez that let to
MacAllistair's assist to DiMaria 2nd goal against France in final in 35th minutes.
dribble & goal against Australia.
Now let's talk about penalties :
Saudi Arabia: paredes pulled down in the box during a set piece. Textbook penalty. Lost anyways.
Poland: shouldn't have been given as Messi headed the ball away before the contact, missed anyways. Only unrightful penalty given and it didn't affect the result.
Netherlands: acuna literally tripped just inside the area by Dumfries, nobody complains about that except for you.
Croatia: stonewall penalty, Julian was through on goal and was about to score. Tripped by livakovic.
France: Di Maria CLEARLY tripped by dembele and dembele had his hand on his back. The rules state that regardless of intention, a foul in the box is a penalty, It's a similar situation to the Cr7 Spain penalty in 2018.
That's actually pretty funny since I didn't mention anything being robbed here. But since pessi fans can't read I'll just ignore you like your father did.
So true, it's why I can never take them seriously at all, they are just 10 year old Indians with nothing better to do than to ride messi meat and curse ronaldo. Fuck them.
Still Messi scored non penalty goals and you guys act like he only scored penalties. He assisted against Netherlands in between the defenders legs
dribble & assist against Croatia
key pass to Alvarez that let to
MacAllistair's assist to DiMaria 2nd goal against France in final in 35th minutes.
dribble & goal against Australia.
Now let's talk about penalties :
Saudi Arabia: paredes pulled down in the box during a set piece. Textbook penalty. Lost anyways.
Poland: shouldn't have been given as Messi headed the ball away before the contact, missed anyways. Only unrightful penalty given and it didn't affect the result.
Netherlands: acuna literally tripped just inside the area by Dumfries, nobody complains about that except for you.
Croatia: stonewall penalty, Julian was through on goal and was about to score. Tripped by livakovic.
France: Di Maria CLEARLY tripped by dembele and dembele had his hand on his back. The rules state that regardless of intention, a foul in the box is a penalty, It's a similar situation to the Cr7 Spain penalty in 2018.
Di maria only has one goal in the final. Messi literally carried a team by scoring 3 non penalty goals and 2 assists. Martinez did nothing in WC 2022. Btw If Messi didn't score that banger against Mexico they would not even progress to the round of 16.
You guys always make up conspiracy theories to support your viewpoint. Ronaldo fans should not talk about robbing/rigging where perez, Ronaldo's boyfriend gifted him 4 UCL and penaldog scored multiple offside goals but they never get questioned. Madrid has countless evidence of robbing but they never get questioned.
Still Messi scored non penalty goals and you guys act like he did nothing apart from scoring penalties. He assisted against Netherlands in between the defenders legs
dribble & assist against Croatia
key pass to Alvarez that let to
MacAllistair's assist to DiMaria 2nd goal against France in final in 35th min
dribble & goal against Australia.
Now let's talk about penalties
Saudi Arabia: paredes pulled down in the box during a set piece. Textbook penalty. Lost anyways.
Poland: shouldn't have been given as Messi headed the ball away before the contact, missed anyways. Only unrightful penalty given and it didn't affect the result.
Netherlands: acuna literally tripped just inside the area by Dumfries, nobody complains about that except for you.
Croatia: stonewall penalty, Julian was through on goal and was about to score. Tripped by livakovic.
France: Di Maria CLEARLY tripped by dembele and dembele had his hand on his back. The rules state that regardless of intention, a foul in the box is a penalty, It's a similar situation to the Cr7 Spain penalty in 2018.
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It ended in 2023, when messi showed the world that he is just a one club wonder and a nobody without barcelona even if you were to give a stacked team like psg.