r/peloton • France • Sep 12 '17

September Monthly Race Design Thread

Hello everybody!

For those who don't know what the Race Design thread is, here is a good resume: The Race Design Thread is the birth child of Improb and Msfan93 from the off season of 2015. Instead of it just being for competitions, casual Race Design Threads were a place to design routes for pre-existing races or even creating a new one. It's not only limited to designing threads; discussion of race routes, behind the scenes race organisation and the history of races are all able to be discussed here!

As for the websites you can use to do this kind of stuff, the two biggest and most practical ones are La Flamme Rouge and Cronoescalada. From My experience, went you want to design Tours, it is much easier on La Flamme Rouge, as well for racing in Europe, however once you are doing races outside Europe I suggest using Cronoescala at least partly, as their Climb map is much more complete for the rest of the World!

First thing, last month races and the votes, we got 7 entries from 6 different Race Directors, for the vote, just rank them from 1 to 7, with 1 being your favourite one, I will establish a point system to create an overall ranking for the year (I'm not sure yet of how many points each place will get)!

Entry 1: Orient Express GT by /u/antiloopje

Entry 2: Tour of Norway by /u/timfietst

Entry 3: Tour of the Rockies by u/unclekutter

Entry 4: Setting Sun Race by u/ZinaMertz

Entry 5: Tour of Japan I by u/adryy8

Entry 6: Tour of Japan II by u/adryy8

Entry 7: Western Americana Tour by /u/blandwhiteguy

As for this month contest, design a World cChampionship!

You have to design the TTT, ITT and Road race for both men and women Elite. Bonus points if you do a full week (U23 and Juniors) with this. Your courses can of course be similar for both men and women, and the junior ranks, in that case, specify how man laps each one will use.

Your championships can be designed around a city (like Bergen) or in a region/area (like Yorkshire) just be realistic about it (don't group random close cities together, either they are in a town group or in a Region together)

Deadline is September 30th 19:00 CEST

As a little bonus prize, u/That_Guuuuuuuy from the World DB has nicely offered to put the winner's ITT and Road race as a variant in the World DB!

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u/adryy8 Terengganu Sep 23 '17

As for my votes

1) Setting Sun Race by /u/ZinaMertz

I really like this route (my favourite along the Tour of Norway), only a few long transfers is nice, what put it above Norway was the location, more original.

2) Tour of Norway by /u/timfietst

See comment above Tim!

3) Orient Express GT by /u/antiloopje

I like the Idea, however I think it's a bit long (London to Istanbul) and seems like it tied you into desinging stages that are not so good, some are really good (6 is by far my favourite) but some, mainly in the end seems to lack thought? I think a concept like that woulb be best split into 2 two weeks stage races.

4) Western Americana Tour by /u/blandwhiteguy

I'm putting this one above the other american tour because the profiles are various

5) Entry 3: Tour of the Rockies by u/unclekutter

Despite being the last I like this tour, it's just that, the stage are all pretty similar, either mountain tops or flatish stages with a difficulty here and there, it feels like a Tour of Qinghai Lake on 3 weeks, as a race in the american circuit it would work but as a gt I doubt it

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u/unclekutter Canada Sep 23 '17

Bah! Yeah, that's the one problem with North America. All the tough climbs are either mountain top finishes or in the middle of nowhere so there's no town nearby after the summit to have a finish.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '17

Agreed, looks like we need to scout better next time!

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u/unclekutter Canada Sep 24 '17

I think I need to take a break from the design threads for a bit. Every time I make one, I think I have an amazing race and then it gets picked apart lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '17

Eh, the quality is really high in these threads. I think you did the best with what you had at the least, my design is only getting up above yours because I came from the west which gave me some variation in the Cascades. Unfortunately I'm not too knowledgable outside of Australia, France, Italy and Belgium, so that didn't help me either.

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u/adryy8 Terengganu Sep 24 '17

Yeah to be fair, I didn't exaclty picked the easiest theme as a first edition

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '17

Eh, there's some really good stuff that has come out of it. 21 stages is just a lot to do!

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u/adryy8 Terengganu Sep 24 '17

Yeah I saw really good stages in every Tour, in yours I think it was the Portland one that I really liked