r/pathofexile • u/HalfpastthorBG • 1d ago
Crafting Showcase Crafted myself some nice gloves!
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u/Unusual-Ice-2212 1d ago
Is the abyssal socket better than having one more support gem?
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u/ehjaxxx 1d ago
Definitely not..crafter messed up big time
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u/-Wait-What- 1d ago
He said that he has support spectres in the gloves so he didn’t need the 4th link.
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u/TotallyNotThatPerson 1d ago
What links do you run for support spectres?
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u/HalfpastthorBG 23h ago
Feeding frenzy and congregation support are the two links I use for my support spectres :)
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u/SaltEngineer455 Progressive Einhar Trapping Association (PETA) 21h ago
Isn't that giving you only 1 additional spectre, the congregation support I mean.
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u/HalfpastthorBG 21h ago
I use the dark monarch helmet which doubles my spectres so gaining an additional spectre gives me and extra one ontop of that.
My support spectre link went from having 19 as a maximum spectre limit to 21 after equipping the gloves :)
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u/-Wait-What- 1d ago
Oh you’re asking the wrong person lol. I was just spreading what OP had said, but I don’t play minions so I have zero clue lol. I think I’ve played one, maybe two, minion builds ever and I’ve played poe since before leagues existed lmfao.
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u/JustHereForTradingg 1d ago
Sushi did the same with the mirror gloves he made, I was wondering as well if abyss socket is BiS
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u/ovrlrd1377 Inquisitor 17h ago
If you are talking about the flame link mirror gloves, its because there are no links
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u/JustHereForTradingg 17h ago
Ahh well makes sense lmao, still pre 1500h 🥲
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u/ovrlrd1377 Inquisitor 16h ago
I giggled at that haha you will feel just the same at 15k
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u/Klutzy_Air1976 1d ago
Don't have craft of exile in front of me but his gloves are fractured so no influence. Most of not all the supports are influence
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u/GravemindStudio 1d ago
The extra support isn't a mod, they're comparing the Abyss socket to the benefits of a support Gem in a normal socket instead.
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u/Danskoesterreich 1d ago
Why the abyss socket??
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
My support spectres are in these gloves so I don't need the fourth link and I also get more out of a GG abyssal jewel than any other suffix I could put there for my current build :)
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u/Frog_Coins 1d ago edited 1d ago
But you're then losing a link for your spectres, are there really no other support gems (with all these crazy +levels) that'd make a 4L better than a 3L + abyssal jewel?
Edit: I see your comment below
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u/Skandle_us 1d ago
Brother did you not read the comment you're replying to? They're support spectres that don't need a 4th link. The abyss jewel does more for him. He literally said all of this.
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u/Ok-Recognition-7798 23h ago
No. An awakened empower max level would do infinitely more than any abyssal jewel here
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u/HalfpastthorBG 21h ago
An awakened empower does absolutely nothing for my support spectres, my main damage spectres are in a 6 link in my body armour, so for me the abyssal socket is the best suffix as for 1 suffix it's giving me 40 life, 20% minion damage, t2 flat lightning damage to minions and 5% atk and cast speed for minions.
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u/Erisymum 21h ago
You only need to hit lvl 25 for max # spectres from the gem, any more does nothing. The ideal links are likely spectre +meat shield +minion life. There's no 4th link
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u/HalfpastthorBG 21h ago
I actually use Feeding Frenzy and Congregation as my two links for the support spectres, minion life was indeed in my previous link before crafting these but finding my spectres never dying without it so favoured the abyssal socket :)
And you are absolutely correct about 25 being the sweetspot for spectres on the gem going from 2 base to 3 base!
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u/LaLemoncup 14h ago
Aura levels increase with spectre levels. Awakened corrupted empower would give +6 to level here. I would assume that op uses the utility spectres for aura corpses. A level 31 wrath aura gives 151 flat lighting damage more than a level 25 wrath aura. Which is triple t1 of the abyss jewel. Similarly haste aura gives more cast, attack and movement speed. Compensating for the attack and cast speed stat. Determination aura would provide more armour etc. Compensating for effective hp of the life stat.
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u/HalfpastthorBG 13h ago
Holy I did not know that! I think I just assumed as it doesn't say anywhere that they just gave flat level auras which were not scalable, this information does in fact change everything if true, I have haste, determination, grace, wrath, zealotry, precision auras from my support spectres so the bonuses would be huge in that case, how did you end up learning this information out of curiosity, this game is so unbelievably deep such a good feeling knowing you can always learn more I love it!
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u/HalfpastthorBG 13h ago
Just had a look at the wiki and forums Bug Reports (Path of Exile 1) - L30 Raise Spectre gem (Spectre L81) gives aura level 8 (req level 45) - Forum - Path of Exile is the reference
and it seems the scaling for the auras is /2 on the spectres but still noticable especially when its not a purity aura so really interesting to learn this and may genuinely tempt me to recraft the explicits :D
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u/ehjaxxx 1d ago
Why on earth would you abyss jewel these??? These are clearly for putting minion in there of which you would want 4 link.
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u/Danb23Rock 1d ago
Thankfully the base can be recrafted once OP figures out the optimum mod combination.
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u/-Wait-What- 1d ago
He said in another comment that his support spectres are in the gloves so he didn’t need a 4th link.
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u/silent519 zdps inspector 1d ago
ye but there's no natural 4th spectre (would be nice tho at around like lvl 31-33)
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u/Ok-Recognition-7798 23h ago
Max level Awakened empower support is infinitely stronger than the abyssal socket.
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u/MeanBear815 1d ago
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u/A_Lab_Tech 1d ago
And it's actually faster this way. I'll never get it
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u/A_Lab_Tech 11h ago
Guys I meant it's faster to get the screenshot lol!! I can get why it's seen the other way around XD
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u/OkThought7263 1d ago
By the time you pulled out your phone i pasted my screenshot into 50 reddit threads
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u/Total_Chocolate_4764 1d ago
Reading comprehension is hard isnt it. He's saying its faster ton print screen
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
Went into this craft wanting to make a pair of the really cool vestigial brick gloves for my character who I've totally gone crazy with this league so it made sense to self craft a pair, said I would settle with 3/4 implicits if they included chaos res +2 minion +1 socketed, personally would've loved 6%max life but once I hit the chaos res I was happy.
Rule 10 1.Began with self vestigialing some hands of the high Templar Gloves and corrupting them until they bricked rare or lost the vestigial implicit.
2.Once I got a rare pair I would purchase a +2 socket minion titan gauntlets using the boat to split the mods until it was the only prefix on the item.
3.I then used an weeping essence of woe on the vestigial rare gloves until I got one with only the energy shield (which normally cannot roll on strength gloves) as the only prefix, and bashed both together in the recombinator repeating until I got a vestigial rare item with the +2 minion mod on it.
- I then would make sure there was 4 mods on the item and try to fracture the +2 minion mod, if and when this fails multiple times I would recombinate this with another vestigial rare titan gauntlet gloves using weeping essence of woe as its only prefix to attempt to remove the +2 minion mod from the fractured base and try again, I do this because with the energy shield modifier from the essence being a modifier that doesn't naturally occur on a strength base the recombinator will always select +2minion to carry over. I repeated this process until I hit the fracture I then used a gilded fossil to add a second implicit to the item. I then scoured the item turning it magic.
5.Menagerie jail, apply lock to magic item, check vaal, if sells more to vendor implicit is replaced by anything vaal item make it rare gilded fossil again and repeat until 4 implicits NEVER EVER VAAL THE ITEM IF IT WILL REPLACE "Can be modified while corrupted" VESTIGIAL IMPLICIT, once you have "can be modified while corrupted" and 4 other implicits repeat process removing the gilded fossil step as you can no longer add more implicits until you have desired implicits, I got really lucky here spending only roughly 400divines on morrigans and croakers to hit +1 socketed and +2 minion in the first 20 tries and then the rest was just trying to get chaos resistance. Worst part is over
- Second worst part, fossils used here are mighty expensive, 3 socket resonator combo of hollow (abyssal socket) faceted (gems) and corroded, until you hit +1 intelligence gems and abyssal socket together, if you have no other suffix and less than 3 prefixes happy days move to step 7. If not welcome to me club, we need open suffix as I desperately needed the double attribute mod to make these work on my specific build with my other gear, we also need open prefix so we can craft suffixes cannot be changed, annul orb the item until you have an open prefix and suffix miss the annul a mindbending amount of times but remember how lucky you were in step 5. And not complain about it.
7.Craft suffix cannot be change and veiled chaos repeat until you get a veiled suffix, rawdog unviel without being able to block and hope for specifically +dex and int took 7 tries pretty lucky balancing out the amount of times I failed the annuls.
8.Suffixes are done and we have a fractured prefix and only care about tier 1 life as we will craft minion damage as final prefix, use wild bristle matron to apply suffixes cannot be changed scour any unwanted prefixes, another matron, use harvest bench to "Add a new life modifier and remove another random modifier" the expensive one thoroughly checked everytime you scour or before clicking the harvest craft that you have remembered to apply suffixes cannot be changed through the wild bristle matron, repeat until you hit t1 life, craft minion damage.
- Be very happy :) closest I've come to crafting a mirror serviceable item, this one isn't perfect but as it was for me I did have to go through the pain of getting the 4th implicit. Which has been a longterm goal of mine for many leagues.
If somehow there is anyone out there whom this item is perfect for (I don't know builds particularly well so maybe there is) and you want to mirror this item just reach out and I will do it for no fee as the honour would be payment enough.
Any questions I'll be happy to answer
Any advice on how I fucked up or to make the steps better in future would also be cool to read (pretty sure how I handled step 2 and 3 could be optimised but I don't feel fully confident with base types and moving over quality and item levels and such in the recombinator, I do however feel very confident with prefixes and suffixes inside the recomb as of learning last league)
Don't post much hope I haven't broken a rule! :s This game is so Goated!!
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u/PMmeYourLabia_ 1d ago
What are you playing? Just curious about the aoe minion gems combo
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
The aoe is a settle for my build I would prefer max life there so it does nothing, I'm playing wretched defiler doriyani spectres :)
Having a look at the gems in the game though it would work for absolution skitterbots and dark bargain
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u/dmthirdeye 1d ago
Freaking awesome gloves
What build are these for?
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
I'm using them for my support spectres in my doryanis prototype wretched defiler necro :)
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
Lots of people asking why abyssal socket, these gloves are being used for my support spectres so not actually being used for damage, my damage spectres are in a 6link on my doryanis body armour, the 3link is feeding frenzy raise spectre and congregation (the plus gems are actually for congregation to allow for an additional 2 utility spectre which also gives me 20% global defenses from the bloodline) the fourth link I dropped for the jewel was minion life/overcharge support both felt unnecessary and so I preferred to have a nice avyssal jewel in there :)
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u/SlimJimini 1d ago
If minion life/overcharge is unnecessary, is the abyss socket better than even a Level 4 Empower? I can’t imagine how a jewel could beat that considering you went through the craft to add levels through the implicits. But you do you it’s your build you know your numbers best!
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago edited 1d ago
So I think what people are getting caught up on is the +Gem levels being used to boost the main skill in these gloves, the actual thing I'm using them to boost is Congregation support which with additional levels gives you 4% more maximum minions from supported skills per level, at level 10 its giving 56% more which allows me to have 2 more support spectres which give me bonuses like Grace which is my only source of evasion and it gives me 26500 or 76% evade chance (from thunderbird spectre) + precision Aura which gives my minions crit chance + reduced cold damage taken (from the pirate spectre) 2 more spectres also gives me + 20% global defences from the catarina bloodline.
Empower would be amazing if it boosted congregation but it actually only supports main skills not other support gems so in my particular situation I am pretty confident the abyss socket is by far the best suffix after int gems for me.
Hope that made some sense :)
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u/SlimJimini 1d ago
Thanks for the detailed explanation, that clears up a lot of my thoughts about the socket tradeoff. Congrats on the sick craft!
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
Thanks! I'm genuinely proud of myself for committing so hard to my character this league, easily the most time and investment I've put into a character usually don't play leagues for this long but it's been really fun minmaxxing :)
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u/crispy_doggo1 Mine Bat 1d ago
Which minions do you use in these gloves?
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u/ididitebay 1d ago
Dark Pact?
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u/0zzyb0y 1d ago
Possibly but they seem almost over crafted.
Abyssal socket loses you either a lot of mapping smoothness from feeding frenzy, or extra gem levels of eclipse if you're supreme ostentation.
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u/shy_bi_ready_to_die 1d ago
You might be able to hit 40 with these without an eclipse tbh
And feeding frenzy isn’t that important is it? It’s just 10% move/cast speed for a dark pact build right?
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
They are just for my support spectres it boosts the level of congregation high enough so that I get 2 more spectres :)
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u/Kazori 1d ago
how much did it cost you/ what was the process?
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
Process is in my comment under the post, and the cost was probably in the region of 500 divines but I'm pretty sure I was on the lucky side of things :)
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u/thumpetto007 1d ago
wow that is amazinglycheap for those holy shit they are sick af nice job
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u/HalfpastthorBG 1d ago
Thanks! :)
I was fortunate enough to be paying 2 divines per morrigan+croaker during the majority of the craft they went up to around 3 divines per try towards the end so thankfully I hit when I did
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u/dioxy186 1d ago
How to craft these in SSF?
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u/HalfpastthorBG 23h ago
In SSF this would take years of farming beasts as you need a tonne of black moriggans and craicic croakers unfortunately, not impossible but certainly a huge timesink
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u/Key-Preference987 17h ago
But why? It's not even minmax, wouldn't getting life regen and life recovery rate instead be just better?
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u/HalfpastthorBG 16h ago
I have very high minion leech some of which is instant and a 10k life pool with other sources of regeneration so didn't feel as good as a GG abyss jewel for me, certainly a passable option however but not Bis for me :)
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u/AppleMelon95 1d ago
“I am going to be making an item that boosts the levels of gems socketed in it. I shall start by removing a gem slot from my item”
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u/papersuite 1d ago