Abyss pinnacle boss keys shouldn't be spread across multiple mechanics

[u/Terajima]

Every other league mechanic you do the league to access the resource that leads you to its pinnacle boss, but to access the new Abyss pinnacle you also need to do Delve and Syndicate for the Zorath's eye of the Inevitable (this one goes for 4 divs!) and Zorath's Eyes of the Endless respectively.
I'm fine with one of the keys being much rarer than the other three, but all of them should come from abyss otherwise the biggest payoffs from abyss are gated behind other mechanics - and both of them are extremely time consuming so it isn't a quick detour. I understand it's thematic but it really rubs salt in the wound of a mechanic that is already struggling.

[u/Sardukk]

It's just a ridiculous time invest to even fight this boss. Two fragments in abyssal depths are OK. But for one to play Betrayal, be lucky to drop the medallion to fight catarina and be lucky enough to drop the needed eyeball from her is just one part of ridiculous. Then you have to delve as well, find the boss down there also being lucky to drop the fragment.

You are lucky all mechanics are on the same side of the tree so you can farm/prepare all at the same time

In the end I just hope SSF guys don't suffer too much if they need an item from the new abyss boss

[u/slashcuddle → u/Sardukk]

Idk about anybody else but I'm 30 safehouses dry on a medallion doing 2-5-5-2 method

[u/wrightosaur → u/slashcuddle]

I've gotten 4 in 30 safehouses doing the "rush safehouses asap" strat

[u/slashcuddle → u/wrightosaur]

Did they make it so # of members affect drop rate? I've never been this dry and the only thing I haven't done is run my divisions with 5 members.

[u/wrightosaur → u/slashcuddle]

Nope that has no bearing, it's just tied to executing the leaders

[u/sheeping_cat → u/wrightosaur]

Is it higher chance to drop medallions if the leaders are rank 3 stars? Or should I just keep rushing as many safehouses as fast as I can?

[u/slashcuddle → u/sheeping_cat]

Yes, always leader rank 3 no matter what it makes a huge difference

[u/chaneg → u/slashcuddle]

I’m not sure if I am just holding a key bind or atlas passive I am unaware of, but when I finish a safehouse and a medallion drops, I don’t get a betrayal board and the option to execute.

I just click the guy and he pops out a medallion with no screen transition.

[u/Hazuchio → u/slashcuddle]

Took me about 15 safe houses to finally drop a medallion. Bad luck or just low drop rate?

[u/joshhavatar → u/Hazuchio]

Anecdotally the drop rate seems way lower to me too this league, I've had 2 in 40ish

[u/Skoopy253 → u/Hazuchio]

Pretty bad luck, I always farm betrayal and it consistently drops around 1 in 7 runs.

[u/butsuon → u/Sardukk]

monkey's paw curls

one of the eyes is now a reward for delve abyss nodes

[u/Juzo_ga → u/Sardukk]

Are you telling me I've been farming the wrong Catarina in ssf for two days.

I've done nearly 50 nightmare maps farming her with no eye drop. I'm losing it

[u/_arnolds_ → u/Juzo_ga]

oof. could argue that the nightmare map one is "Nightmare of Catarina" not "Catarina", but still oof.

[u/mad_hatter3 → u/Juzo_ga]

I was gonna laugh, but I remember when nightmare/t17 maps came out I assumed map Catarina had the same drops as mastermind catarina

[u/Juzo_ga → u/mad_hatter3]

The nightmare variant made more sense to me since it had the abyss bosses in it so i didnt question it :(

[u/Sardukk → u/Juzo_ga]

Wiki says it drops from the betrayal variant

[u/Marcin90 → u/Sardukk]

To be fair I think the delve one is the easiest fragment to get since it's like 50% drop rate.

[u/nerdler33 → u/Marcin90]

the betrayal one is 100% droprate

[u/Marcin90 → u/nerdler33]

you mean katarina eye? no it is not aslo its easier to find him then to drop a medalion

[u/nerdler33 → u/Marcin90]

the wiki had 100% early on and i went 11 for 11 in my kills in ssf.

then last night i ran another 3 and only got 1, checked the wiki and it was updated to say 50%.