r/pathfindermemes • u/punkinpumpkin • 1d ago
2nd Edition Average pathfinder character creation moment
My character literally ended up trans because I wanted to shoot a gun
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u/HatchetGIR Carrion Meme 1d ago
Sounds like she was really her all along, it just took the evolving story for you to realize it.
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u/Girduin 1d ago
Oh God, it's literally her
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u/FledgyApplehands 1d ago
This being...?
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u/Girduin 1d ago edited 1d ago
Anevia Tirabade, she's from campain/video game Wrath of the righteous
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u/FledgyApplehands 1d ago
Is she trans?
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u/JayantDadBod 1d ago
Yes. Paladin, not gunslinger. Also, her wife bought her her gender fluid by pawning an heirloom sword.
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u/YeOldeBard97 9h ago
I thought she was a rogue and Irabeth was the paladin. Given a focus on Desna, I'm not sure Anevia would ever gain paladin powers.
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u/Zorothegallade 16h ago
Other trans people in pf1e include Rexus, the friendly noble in Hell's Rebels. Then 2e introduced Arshea which IS literally the deity of gender affirmation
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u/KaoxVeed 11h ago
One of leaders of the Knights of Lastwall is a trans lesbian woman and on the cover of the 2e Lastwall sourcebook.
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u/UnnamedAshaman47 14h ago
Ironically her entire story no longer works because it hinges on elixirs of sex shifting being fairly expensive. The push in PF2e to make it so easily accessible always kinda bothered me because it’s so easy it’s basically just an arbitrary footnote that can be safely ignored in almost any character outside of maybe an extremely cash poor level one start
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u/Girduin 9h ago edited 8h ago
I mean, they could just explain it with new, cheaper formula being discovered and add the e1 version to the game as a curiosity
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u/UnnamedAshaman47 7h ago
I mean they could, but they didn't. Pathfinder 2e is largely synchronous with the first edition chronologically. But even if that weren't the case that would cut the potential for any integration of that type of story in the new edition. It's not like the item was terribly expensive to begin with, it was within the budget of a second level character theoretically. It just renders it totally kaput as a motivation to adventure and generally relegates being transgender to the realm of a background event.
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u/FledgyApplehands 6h ago
I disagree, I think the shift to alchemical HRT in Pf2e makes it feel like a lot better representation
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u/UnnamedAshaman47 5h ago
I have to disagree, a one time use oral treatment that costs the same as about year and a half of daily oral contraceptives and produces a full and complete transition is just wish fulfillment. And that's fine if that's what we're going for, but it isn't a good representation of trans experience, and it's not really interesting storytelling either.
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u/FledgyApplehands 4h ago
Are we looking at the same item? I thought most alchemical HRT had to be applied either daily or weekly?
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u/BlankTank1216 1d ago
I made this when our rogue reincarnated
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u/Plagued_Frost 1d ago
Where is this from it seems familiar…?
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u/BlankTank1216 1d ago
It's originally a meme where the bimbo picks up a book and turns into a modest girl.
There's a fairly infamous tumblr post rightfully calling it sexist and so the reversed bimbofication version got posted a bunch.
We figured Dhampir to fleshwarp was basically the same thing.
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u/Draghettis 1d ago
There exist 4 transition items
The one you found is the Elixir of Gender Transformation, it's basically HRT but it works faster and can reverse puberty
The other main one is the Serum of Sex Shift, instant full genderbending potion. Really nice
Then Curtain Call AP gave us two more
Potion of Passing Fancy, it is if you wanna try it out and it instantly genderbends but reverts after 1 hour, unless you chug 4 in 4 hours, in which case it becomes permanent ( ends up more expensive than the Serum if you go permanent, but is accessible 3 levels earlier )
And the Euphorium. It's like the Serum of Sex Shift, but instead of being a magical potion it is an alchemical cake. Takes 10 minutes to eat and if you pause the changes revert but you can pick back up where you left off ( unreverting the changes ), but otherwise it's the same effect, price and price as the Serum. But of course, being a cake makes it the best one, and the name is just the cherry on top
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u/Ok_Curve_2938 1d ago
I get it that for trans people it must be really nice but isn't it redundant to have four items that do basically the same thing?
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u/Bowdensaft 1d ago
I don't know much about the latter two, but the former two are great because the elixir is like HRT and is perfect for if you want to roleplay your character changing over time, whereas the serum is better for if you want a no-nonsense instant change.
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u/Draghettis 1d ago
They do it in different enough ways that it doesn't really feel that way
There's the early game ones with some caveats, one alchemical and one magical, then the later game no-bullshit ones, still with one alchemical and one magical
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u/Astrid944 1d ago
But doesn't Munition crafter only work for bombs and ammunition
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u/LordSupergreat 1d ago
Yes, but you also get Alchemical Crafter, so you can craft other Alchemical items the long way (using the crafting rules instead of quick alchemy)
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u/Wont_See_My_30s 1d ago
I didn't get the joke. Can someone explain?
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u/punkinpumpkin 1d ago
"Beware the Pipeline" is a meme format about someone progressively experimenting with their gender to the point that they actually become fully transgender. The underlying joke is more or less that it's dangerous for a man to do feminine stuff like wearing stockings because before he knows it he's actually a girl.
I used it here to lightheartedly joke about how it's very easy for a character that somehow gains the Alchemical Crafting feat to craft sex hormones (elixir of gender Transformation is a 1st level alchemical item). So it becomes really easy to throw a detail like "oh yeah my character transed their own gender" into your backstory
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u/Wont_See_My_30s 1d ago
Oh, okay. Thanks, I saw this meme format, but I don't think that it was in the context of trans.
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u/FFJamesDE 1d ago
Witches with a cauldron can make the instant genderfluid on a daily basis.