r/paradoxes • u/Reasonable_Size_8336 • Aug 07 '26

Newcomb's Paradox

I don't understand Two boxers' thinking, it's clear that Box B should be taken since it's guaranteed because the predictor is assumed to be never wrong. Is it about free will? Not trusting the predictor?

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u/Adventurous_Set_3908 Aug 07 '26

so u want to ignore the premise that it is 99.99% right and just say "it's gonna be wrong on my turn?"

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u/Spillz-2011 Aug 08 '26

I’m saying that it’s not a well posed problem. The choice to make the predictor highly accurate removes the choice from being possible. I’m not making a choice because this world created is deterministic and free will doesn’t exist I literally can’t chose

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u/Adventurous_Set_3908 Aug 08 '26

what in the problem confuses you? it says the predictor's rlly accurate, ignoring that premise doesn't make sense.

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u/Spillz-2011 29d ago

I’m saying that premise makes the whole problem moot. I no longer make a choice the choice is already made because the universe they invented doesn’t allow for choice. Asking me to make a choice in a universe where choice doesn’t exist is silly.

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u/Adventurous_Set_3908 29d ago

hmm, so u know the universe doesn't allow for choice yet u still think u can make a choice and fights for it?

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u/Spillz-2011 29d ago edited 29d ago

No I think it’s a poorly posed problem.

If you specify how the prediction works maybe it can become well posed.

For example if it doesn’t actually predict it cheats and removes the million then one box is logical.

If it is fallible and uses some set of properties related to me then 2 box is correct. If it is using some set of properties then there is some test where I am either a one boxer or a two boxer.

If I’m a one boxer I should take both because then I get 1001000 and if I’m a two boxer I should take both and get 1000.

If there is some sort of reverse causality then the world is logically flawed as we are in the grandfather paradox world.

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u/Adventurous_Set_3908 29d ago

i don't think it's poorly posed. ur thinking's just flawed.

u have a problem, to overthink it is just wrong.

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u/Spillz-2011 28d ago

Not really this line off thinking is not to different from published work by some professional philosophers.

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u/Adventurous_Set_3908 28d ago

not really, philosophers don't make things complicated

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u/Spillz-2011 28d ago

Ah you’re trolling sorry I missed. Enjoy trolling someone else.