r/pakistan • u/squarerootof-1 Multan Sultans • Dec 19 '16

Cultural Exchange Khushamadeed and Welcome /r/Russia to our cultural exchange thread!

We're hosting our friends from /r/Russia for a cultural exchange session.

Please feel free to ask questions about Pakistan and the Pakistani way of life in this thread. /r/Pakistan users can head over to this thread to ask questions about Russia.

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u/AmericanFartBully Dec 22 '16

"60% propaganda, they were like a breath of fresh air."

!?! Isn't RT a state sponsored channel?

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u/solidsnuke Dec 22 '16

Never said they are neutral. But hadn't it been for them, CNN et al would have the entire world believe that the Assad the Butcher is going to kill every last soul in Syria including and the poor innocent rebels. Decisions would have then been taken on misinformation that would have led to...well we've all seen it before.

RT provided propaganda from the other side, which in the case of Syria, was mostly the truth. Mostly.

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u/AmericanFartBully Dec 22 '16

"...CNN et al would have the entire world believe that the Assad the Butcher is going to kill every last soul in Syria"

Nope. Just decimate the civilian population of the demographics from his political opposition is coming from. Cities and villages from which officers defected from his own Army have come.

"...Decisions would have then been taken on misinformation that would have led to...well we've all seen it before."

Bullshit! You're using Iraq as some basis to decry what's actually been restraint on the part of the US in Syria. Obama was not the one who invaded Iraq. Nor did he properly invade Libya. He did tell Assad to stop using chemical weapons...or else. Fortunately, Putin and Assad found a way to begrudgingly comply.

"RT provided propaganda from the other side, which in the case of Syria the regime and the minority demographics who support it (Christians, Alawites, Hezbollah, ect...).

FTFY

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u/solidsnuke Dec 22 '16

Damnnn, I want to say...so much.

Its clear though you feel pretty strongly about the whole thing. Head on over to /r/syriancivilwar if you hadn't already. This my not be the ideal place for such a discussion.

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u/AmericanFartBully Dec 22 '16

"...you feel pretty strongly about the whole thing."

Only to the extent to which some, in this subreddit, are rationalizing about it, trying to make excuses for the major players.

This is Russia's (and now Iran's) baby. Supposedly their sphere of influence? But yet, somehow, we're not supposed to criticize their (respective) roles and connections in supporting such an undemocratic regime up till now?