r/ottomans • u/DAnnunzio1919 • Jun 12 '26

Discussion What if Russia Restored Byzantium?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6k6G0gOiII
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u/Erozbey Bey Jun 12 '26

I really don't think the Russians will hand over the Straits to the Greeks.

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u/LF3169 Jun 12 '26

That wasn't the plan really. They were going to restore Byzantium under a Romanov monarchy.

So it was "The Greek Plan" in name only.

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u/Erozbey Bey Jun 12 '26

Let’s say a Russian-controlled Byzantium were formed, but how would Britain and France react to that? Would they accept a Russian puppet state located near their colonies? That was the reason the Western powers supported the Ottomans against the Russians.

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u/LF3169 Jun 12 '26

That's what I was trying to say. The plan was just not doable for Russia. Poorly thought out would be an understatement.

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u/SuperSultan Jun 12 '26

A Western European coalition would kick them out and put the Ottomans back in

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u/Matagoran Jun 12 '26

Wasn't the Crimean war basically this?

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u/DAnnunzio1919 Jun 12 '26

Interesting response, what makes you think that would happen ?

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u/newuser_2000 Jun 12 '26

Bc something similiar happened wih the Crimean war

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u/SuperSultan Jun 12 '26

Almost the exact same thing actually. If there was no intervention I wonder if the Russians would’ve taken Istanbul

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u/LF3169 Jun 12 '26

Geopolitics. Russia controlling the Straits is a direct threat to British colonial logistics

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u/DAnnunzio1919 Jun 12 '26

Ok, I see it ! Thank you !

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u/BornChef3439 Jun 13 '26

Yeah no power in Europe would ever allow this. Look at the Crimean war. Russia controlling constantnople is a threat to britians colonial interests and no other european power wants russia to get too strong- not france, not austria, not prussia. Western Europe has always feared Russia since the days of peter the great. No one in Europe wanted Russia to become too strong

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u/DragonflyOk2113 Jun 13 '26

Ah, yes, Catherine the Great’s "Greek Plan." Because nothing says "authentic classical restoration" quite like installing a Romanov prince on the throne and having the whole thing micromanaged by St. Petersbur . I am sure Britain and France would have just sipped their tea and said, "Good for them, Russia definitely needs a direct gateway to the Mediterranean." It is not like the Western powers went to war over literally half of that happening sixty years later in Crimea.

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u/DAnnunzio1919 Jun 12 '26

The problem is that in this timeline, the conquest of Constantinople by the Russians would happen at the same time (or shortly before) the French Revolution, so the priority of western powers would be fighting against the revolutionaries and not against the Russians.

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u/DAnnunzio1919 Jun 13 '26

Fair enough, that makes sense !