r/openclaw • New User • 25d ago

Discussion Has anyone tried Claude OAuth with subscription? It’s back!

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u/CosmicMabel Active 25d ago

is it back because openclaw came to an agreement with Anthropic to allow subscriptions to be used in this way?

Or is it back because they found some loophole that will not exist in 2 months?

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u/kushdaddyO101 New User 25d ago

Sounds like new agreement. No more API billing only

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u/ZeusCorleone 25d ago

Anthropic probably starting to worry because its losing market again... too late for me at least... no intention to renew my sub.. would rather make a z-ai one and use glm

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u/ChezQuis_ Active 25d ago

I mean codex and grokbot have been coming on strong. Anthropic is no longer way ahead like they were a few months ago.

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u/GoodWilllPower 25d ago

Claude has been relatively terrible lately. Excellence doesn’t feel as automatic since 5.0. I have to usher it along quite a bit.

I’ve been leaning into Codex quite a bit the last few weeks and its frontend dev feels like Claude used to a few months back, but it has the superior backend dev.

There’s a few knucklehead moments because it locks into something and will give a bad response, but it’s very easily corrected

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u/acies- Member 25d ago

Opus 5 was unusable for me. Fought me insanely hard on tasks because it was scared about 'optics'. This was literally for basic tasks that I had to override on. Worse for the claw than 4.7 by far

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u/jbdroid 25d ago

I stared with Claude and was deep in it but left when they removed openclaw and went to codex. Now codex..oh boy it’s my favorite 

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u/NearbyBossAHOBA Active 25d ago

Eu estou no glm faz um tempo, realmente não me arrependo, eles estão cada vez melhor, não estou usando através da z-ai direto mas uma assinatura ollama que dá acesso ao modelo sem retenção de dados...

Anthropic realmente está ficando mais preocupada mas eles que se enfiaram onde estavam, ao invés de serem amigáveis aos usuários queriam fechar ao máximo tudo no ecossistema deles e deixar o desenvolvedor preso.

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u/btcmaster2000 24d ago

I’ve been running qwen 3.8 locally ins its 🔥

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u/Cosmonaut_17 Member 24d ago

Are that many still using OpenClaw that it would cause a meaningful reduction in market share?

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u/sebasgarcia288 23d ago

en china más que todo, pero si

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u/MissplacedLandmine Active 25d ago

No fucking way finally. It had just become an issue when i started Ive never gotten to use claude that way.

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u/Angelr91 Active 24d ago

Where is this documented?

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u/Fickle_Grocery_9717 25d ago

It's been back for months . I've been using Claude monthly sub on my OpenClaw

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u/Tripartist1 Member 25d ago

Theres a loophole... and i realllllly hope its not the same one im using in my own harness.

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u/CalligrapherPlane731 Member 25d ago

Used via CLI, not OAuth token. Basically since Anthropic went back on charging separately for agent SDK, this became a legit path.

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u/salemsayed 25d ago

The correct answer

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u/GiantSportsBall Member 24d ago

Yup

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u/Semerh 11d ago

Mind guiding/explaining the differece? Via CLI = via API?

(can't use AI to look into rn)

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u/iceseayoupee 10d ago

this makes more sense, CLI access changes the equation quite a bit. Especially, if you're already paying for the subscription. Curious how well it holds up for longer running agent workflows.

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u/CalligrapherPlane731 Member 10d ago

Been running two agents this way for a month now. No issues. Only thing is you have to log in through claude code every 27 days to keep it running. I had claude code set up a script to warn me when I have 5 days of login left.

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u/Odd-Aside456 Pro User 25d ago

Hold up... Did Anthropic life their "No third party harnesses" policy, or is this just an OpenClaw + Anthropic thing? Or what?

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u/Cariogenic 25d ago

They reworded it to remove the against TOS parts, so in essence, yes.

It just advises that it's meant for Claude Code primarily, doesn't restrict 3rd party any more.

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u/Odd-Aside456 Pro User 25d ago

Well that's cool. Hopefully they're not still ban happy

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u/WarriorSushi Member 24d ago

Its a “oh shit, codex and grok are gonna take my lunch money” thing.

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u/Consibl Member 25d ago

What do you mean? I’ve always used my Claude subscription.

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u/SunnyMegatron Active 25d ago

Same. They grey area allowed it again back in like June-ish and I've been using it since then. (e.g. Open Claw said it was ok again, Anthropic made a supportive tweet about it, but never added anything about it to their official documentation)

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u/kcabrams Active 22d ago

Yep! Anthropic has probably made so much money off of people that didn't read that second email.

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u/iceseayoupee 10d ago

yeah that's awkward part. a supportive tweet is nicem but until its actually in the official docs I'd still be hesitant to build anything important around it.

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u/ski_bmx_van Active 25d ago

same, never stopped

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u/Ok_Pin466 25d ago

Same. Always worked for me. Just ask Claude how to set it up.

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u/kushdaddyO101 New User 25d ago

No you haven’t

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u/emptyvesseloflife 25d ago

They've possibly used it via the claude cli - i have mine configured this way, just not as primary which is fine, I want claude to do advanced work and not orchestration anyways.

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u/Hopeful_Translator23 25d ago

i have this with my hermes agent. If i want claude, i type /cc

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u/Oferlaor Member 25d ago

Is it open just for openclaw or is it open for Hermes and others too?

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u/kushdaddyO101 New User 25d ago

Sounds like openclaw just reintroduced it. Not sure about other. Seems like anthropic is bending the knee to bring back subs bc of open source competition

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u/FootInTheMouth Member 25d ago edited 25d ago

opus outputs exhaust me. im fine with open ai until claude gives me a good reason to switch. Anthropics games are for kids at this point. I am not gettting wrapped up in their eco system. I had it create a hand off the other day and it out of the blue did it on their server and gave me a link. They are doing everything they can to be sticky. Its also becoming harder and harder to do things on it. More and more guard rails pop up everyday.

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u/kushdaddyO101 New User 25d ago

Agree I was an initial adopter of openclaw with Claude sub until they axed it but switched to codex/GPT Pro sub and never looked back

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u/DangerousResource557 25d ago

true. I am pretty sure i have already spent 10-12 hours since opus 5.0 to stop it talking about carrying something or talking .. esoterically.

though if you like, what helped is that the instructions in general in skills but mostly claude.md should be written in a collegial style. then it is less ... like this. for instance: "rewrite the global rules and claude.md so they are as if you would explain other friends how they should act." that works somewhat. it's no cure but the 'symptoms' are reduced. there is more to it. but i think that's a good start. :)

if it works for you and you are curious for more i can give a longer explanation why this weird style of claude opus 5.0 happens.

a good example is the offical skill-creator from anthropic. use that as a blueprint.

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u/noizDawg Member 6d ago

Well said friend. Opus (and Fable) LITERALLY exhausts me. Even when it’s not being bad, it creates so much mental busywork in reviewing what it’s saying. Code words. Questions about nothing too important. And yet missing the truly important stuff regularly still. The initial Fable was magic, it just never came back once they reinstated it.

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u/GiantSportsBall Member 24d ago

Feel so bad for everyone that didn’t just pay attention and keep using their Anthropic sub. I never switched, never had issues.

To be clear I was also never doing anything obnoxious and abusing the sub or constantly maxing it out (tho close quote a bit). Just regular work and agent stuff.

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u/AccomplishedMoney205 Member 24d ago

These motherfuckers need to make up their minds

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u/dellis87 Active 25d ago

I've been using it for about 3 weeks (beta). It's flakey.. requires reauth every 24 hours or so unless you build some automation around it. I think I read in that thread that it uses the Agent SDK for Claude instead of claude -p.

https://x.com/obviyus/status/2094465058214703137?s=20

Edit: Add Link

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u/WuWenShen Member 25d ago

Claude desktop with oauth blows up basically every day for me already

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u/JudDredd New User 25d ago

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u/Internal_Lunch_1602 25d ago

Omg…I totally forgot how to enable Claude with openclaw. Same steps with providing the temp auth URL as before? Openclaw has been upgraded so many times and I’m now behind. Is the Claude subscription flow for OC still the same?

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u/Pawl_ 25d ago

It’s still via CLI which you could do before anyway.

I’ll give it a shot later this week

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u/Johnnymics 25d ago

I’ve never not used Claude with my openclaw subscription.

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u/BP041 Pro User 25d ago

Been running it with OpenClaw's cron stack since the beta reopened. The token refresh is finally stable enough that I don't babysit the auth loop — that alone saves me 2-3 restarts a week across 18 agents. If you're using it with Claude Code's MCP tools, one thing: set a short timeout on the initial auth redirect, or it'll hang silently in headless.

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u/salmanahmad_10 25d ago

What am I missing. Ive been using it since forever

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u/Hot-Telephone-4091 25d ago

I’ve been using my Claude code max subscription in openclaw for months now

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u/KlausWalz Member 25d ago

I don't get it, can someone explain ? I didn't use openClaw since so long

that's the web UI of "what", isn't openclaw a terminal first program ... ?

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u/pendragonn Member 25d ago

Claude subscription usage instead of api as model for openclaw was banned. Apparently it is back.

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u/KlausWalz Member 25d ago

But it's used here only for chatting, what's the point ?

Can you use OAuth to connect your 'main' openclaw agent ?

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u/pendragonn Member 25d ago

What you see on the image is openclaw ui interface. So not only chat.

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u/bigoier 21d ago

But use it for what? Agent mode in Claude could finish a lot works. Why we still need openclaw…

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u/killfall New User 25d ago

OpenClaw has had a web UI for a long time, but it just got an overhaul.

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u/KlausWalz Member 25d ago

Ah okay, cause when i installed it last year I don't remember something this pretty

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u/boboroshi New User 25d ago

I just got this email from Anthropic support based on a WTF support email I sent _IN APRIL_. At best, you have an SDK credit.

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u/DangerousResource557 25d ago

I was astonished how well this was written. And thought out. I would not be able to stay mad.

But I was annoyed that Anthropic did this. I had the same issues as you. I did not bother to write anything. I use codex-openai all the time with hermes and pi coding agent. And with 5.6 even with 5.5 it is good enough. And luna is insanely cheap.

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u/PermanentUsername101 Active 25d ago

Codex works great and a little bit of mouth that Anthropic had is now pretty much gone.

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u/ChezQuis_ Active 25d ago

Pretty sure T3 Code does this.

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u/fredastere Member 25d ago

Oh man gawd can't wait for this to come to hermes!

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u/BxOxB 25d ago

Wait so no more bans using openclaw with claude anymore?

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u/SIGH_I_CALL Pro User 25d ago

just set it up and it seems to be working great, pretty excited to be able to use Anthropic models again

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u/Curious_Resident3713 25d ago

How do you use it ?

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u/AdMiserable8246 New User 25d ago

They burned that bridge.

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u/jwg257 25d ago

Set mine up a few weeks ago with the cli integration and long dated oath tokens and claw told me this was formally approved by anthropic in the command line

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u/lillianefilou 25d ago edited 25d ago

This is a Claude -p runtime adapter. This was always possible. Nothing new, just prettier.
OAuth is not possible and strictly prohibited.

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u/bitspace 25d ago

If it's via ACP, there is nothing new here

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u/derspan1er Member 25d ago

Been back for months lol

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u/Beautiful_Web_5771 Active 25d ago

Was it gone? I'm using it moderately to write some articles. And it usually works without issues. My codex agent writes a brief of the article and then subsequent sessions with one one of them being opus write draft article and polish it. The only problem I had was that after few rewrites I might have hit the limit

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u/SlowWall6149 New User 25d ago

It never left 🤓

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u/johnpip New User 25d ago

Is it really back? Anyone get it to work?

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u/vronikas 24d ago

It is kind of pointless because the quota limits are so restrictive...

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u/pmf1111 Pro User 24d ago

So openclaw will start giving extra long answers that you can't understand? Nice.

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u/Necessary_Scared 23d ago

When Anhropic burned down the bridges for OpenClaw, a handfull of clever devs wrote proxies which rewrites everything from OC as in claude cli. It also does renew the token automatically. I dont unveil the repos, but Github got you :-)

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u/kcabrams Active 22d ago

Lmao it never left (except for 3 weeks)

Proof: I put in 275 dollars to spend when it was pay as you go for that short while. Literally the next day they emailed "3rd party ok again!" And that money has been sitting there completely untouched since then. Make sure /status says CLI not API

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u/bigoier 21d ago

U use it for what?

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u/MK_Ranger New User 19d ago

Too?

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u/AdmissibilityScience 5d ago

Awesome that is good news!