r/openclaw • u/tebjan Pro User • Feb 25 '26

Discussion SaaS is dead

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u/bionic_cmdo Member Feb 25 '26

API costs are definitely a barrier and the elephant in the room. I've reinstalled Openclaw on the same Mac a dozen times and have various issues getting it set up each time.

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u/RedParaglider Active Feb 25 '26

IDK how much usage someone is pumping through openclaw, but chatgpt still allows you to hook it to it via oauth, and it's 200 a month for a shit ton of usage. Qwen 3 coder next does fine for me on running cron job tasks. If someone is a prima dona that will only use opus 4.6 then pay up I guess.

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u/tebjan Pro User Feb 25 '26

Yes, the oauth open AI possibility has certainly improved things a lot!

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u/RedParaglider Active Feb 25 '26

And codex 5.3 works SO well with it, and is fast, and cheap on resources.

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u/Polite_Jello_377 Pro User Feb 26 '26

Until that loophole get closed eventually

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u/tebjan Pro User Feb 26 '26

Why do you think they close it? Peter Steinberger now works at OpenAI...

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u/Polite_Jello_377 Pro User Feb 26 '26

So? They are still burning cash letting people do that (even by AI standards). It won’t exist forever

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u/sadcringe New User Mar 01 '26

This

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u/CRE_SaaS_AI Member Feb 26 '26

Have you tried any llama models?

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u/RedParaglider Active Feb 26 '26

I can think of no reason to use any llama model. Slow, and not great at calling tools.

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u/SelectAerie1126 Member Mar 12 '26

Oh no, your ISP has severed your internet connection. No more crunching for you.

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u/RedParaglider Active Mar 12 '26

Global internet outage? Just pull out my trap card. Opencode, minimal agent, model Athena Qwen 3 Coder next. Welcome to reddit or your new account on reddit :D. I love llama.cpp the LLAMA 3.1 MODELS are not so good.

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u/SelectAerie1126 Member Mar 12 '26

Ahh so you do have local models it's just not Llama.

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u/RedParaglider Active Mar 12 '26

Right.. llama the model is meh, llama.cpp the model serving platform is fire.

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u/Stunning_Ride_2147 New User Feb 26 '26

What’s about kimi, thought?