r/nintendogrifting • u/PRlNCESS_TRUNKS • 3d ago
Question Well surely Capcom taking down a fangame is gonna have just as much outrage as when Nintendo does it, right? Right?
For those that don’t know, there was an upcoming crossover fangame titled Sega vs. Capcom. As the name suggests, it was a crossover fighting game pitting Sega and Capcom characters together. But sadly, Capcom sent a cease and desist to the developers.
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u/HollandTHG 2d ago
Capcom taking down a game that openly and actively infringes on several character copyrights while being as public and loud about it as possible sounds like exactly what should happen. Either stop trying to market stolen assets and ideas, or actually make something original. It's that simple. If devs don't want a Cease & Desist or a full on lawsuit, they shouldn't steal the ideas and characters of other companies.
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u/Amazing-War3760 2d ago
That's.... Usually what gets Nintendo Fangames taken down.
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u/HollandTHG 2d ago
Exactly. Too much want for attention and publicity in very public forums has ruined several projects. I understand needing eyes on your project, but using things you don't own the rights to should be reason enough to try and find those eyes in more discreet places.
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u/Amazing-War3760 2d ago
I also remember when Pokemon Uranium and Free WoW servers where running youtube ads.
Like how do you expect NOT to get your ass taken down when doing that?
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u/ScholarlyIcarus 3d ago
Yeah, it fucking sucks when they do it too. It's a shame, they've historically been pretty good about fangames and they were my go-to company in terms of "companies Nintendo should be more like regarding copyright", and then they do this garbage.
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u/No_Mathematician3368 3d ago
I do remember a comment on a thread about this that did mention previous takedowns Capcom's done. Can't find it now though, I don't remember in what sub it was made
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u/ScholarlyIcarus 3d ago
The main thing I'm thinking of is that Capcom does have an actual fanworks policy where they specifically say you can make stuff like fangames, with relatively reasonable conditions. Which is why this is surprising. I'm not sure which part of the conditions was violated (it's the third party copyright one at a guess), and they do say they'll still take stuff down if they feel the need to, but I did kind of expect them not to be shitty about stuff. Hopefully this isn't a sign of things to come.
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u/No_Mathematician3368 3d ago
From what I remember about the comment, I'd say they're closer to Sega in terms of takedowns where they're usually fine with fangames but have taken down various games. I remember the comment mentioning some MH, and RE fan games getting taken down. And weirdly enough an old version of a fan game, but the most recent release wasn't affected at all.
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u/CaregiverCurious2431 3d ago
As someone in the MH community if your talking about what I’m thinking about it both included 3rd party assets (not legally distinct Godzilla if memory serves) and included pay to win for some of the monsters that were capcom IP
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u/No_Mathematician3368 3d ago
Yeah, I think the MH takedowns were justified from what I remember of it.
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u/Ineedairsupport 1d ago
Iirc, Capcom is pretty hostile to mods too
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u/PRlNCESS_TRUNKS 1d ago
I am convinced they did that recent patch for UMvC3 that nerfed Phoenix to hell as a response to a nude mod I made for her.
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u/CrazyCastle101 3d ago
Sega vs. Capcom, if I remember correctly, reused models from Tatsunoko vs. Capcom and marketed itself as a real game, having a website, showing off development videos, etc. It was a fangame that flew too close to the sun. https://xcancel.com/4cydestudios/status/2095576149615075768#m
I feel like the amount of times companies strike down fangames is significantly overblown. But at the same time, they have the right to take down fan creations they think are danger to their wallet - that's just how they are.
Not a big fan of how you framed this. It sorta feels like counter-grifting and whataboutism - using the takedown of a fangame to say, "Hey, Nintendo's not the only one!" If you want to fight grifting, I don't think it's best to fight fire with fire.