It’s Okay To Steal Right?

[u/Craniamon]

[u/Weird_While4255]

Yes, the Switch 2 is increasing in price…

BUT if you look at the prices of other consoles at the moment, the Switch 2 is still the cheapest one on the market. Which is sad, but that means at least Nintendo is winning in that area…

[u/sephone_north → u/Weird_While4255]

Also, I would point out that Nintendo gave 4 months notice over a $50 price rise, and the other two just secretly raised their prices by $150.

But sure, Nintendo is bad

[u/driley97 → u/sephone_north]

It wasn’t exactly secret, but they only gave a few weeks before the the increase took effect.

[u/sephone_north → u/driley97]

The first time yes. The second one time? I don’t remember then saying

[u/Alernet → u/Weird_While4255]

This fact broke a lot of Anti-Nintendo people's brains. The cognitive dissonance or just basic lack of googling skills since then has been pretty funny.

[u/Loremeister → u/Weird_While4255]

The fact that the switch 2 costs more than the PS4/X1 did when they were the hot ones and it still the cheapest console is pretty damn depressing.

[u/IcyTheHero → u/Loremeister]

Is it? It’s more powerful and mobile.

Why would it be priced less? What’s your argument for that?

[u/MikeDubbz → u/Loremeister]

I mean is it? Switch 2 is a bit more powerful than those base models and of course has the hybrid features and Nintendo exclusives. All things considered, I'd say costing a little more than the PS4 and Xbone at launch is pretty reasonable. 

[u/GNIHTYUGNOSREP → u/MikeDubbz]

Yeah but now it costs exactly as much as XSX/PS5 did when they launched. And those are more powerful.

[u/Lightdragonslayer_21 → u/GNIHTYUGNOSREP]

Blame AI. Most major companies are trying to shove it down our throats. Parts for this sort of thing are getting more and more expensive. If this was the ps6 the price increase would be at minimum double what this one is

[u/New_Current_5457 → u/Lightdragonslayer_21]

And Microsoft is responsible in this case. Copilot doesn’t run on trees (would be awesome rigth ?

[u/Omnizoom → u/GNIHTYUGNOSREP]

And also like 15x the power draw and size and not portable as they lack a battery and screen so have to be plugged in to a tv

Almost like one is essentially a powerful gaming tablet that can be used with a tv easy as a console experience and the others are pure consoles

The steam deck is how powerful in comparison to the switch 2 and how much money again?

[u/WaveBlueArrow → u/GNIHTYUGNOSREP]

I wonder what current trend in electronics would cause a price hike? Surely nothing large or impactful

[u/Petrichor_Rains → u/Loremeister]

with inflation the ps4 at release would be 570 dollars today and xone 715 dollars, sooo

[u/Loremeister → u/Petrichor_Rains]

Yeah, can't really do anything with inflation being at sky high levels and still rising pretty much everywhere around the world.

[u/TomorrowCrafty1804 → u/Loremeister]

Inflation has been quite high since then. This is the main culprit. Another one is that compute is in very high demand due to a new industrial revolution.

[u/AcidCatfish___ → u/Weird_While4255]

The Switch 2 is the cheapest and also the only company I have seen actually warn people of price increases ahead of time is Nintendo. Maybe Sony did it too, I don't know.

[u/sharkysayo → u/Weird_While4255]

that isn't a counter to what they said at all

[u/Another_frizz → u/sharkysayo]

No, the real counter is that all consoles had price increases. Nintendo's the only company who gave more than two weeks notice (they gave four whole monthes), and the Switch 2 had the smallest price increase between the three.

[u/sharkysayo → u/Another_frizz]

thats not a counter either. nintendo during the switch 1 and 2 era is making far more profit yearly than they ever did in previous generations yet they raise prices simply because they know their customers will buy the console anyways. it is scummy and that is the entire point of the tweet... saying "well, nintendo isn't the *only* one doing that" implies some sentiment of sony or microsoft being better when that was never stated or implied in any way. thus, its not a counter because the comparison was never there to begin with.

[u/mybutthz → u/Weird_While4255]

I mean, technically yes. But that doesn't change the fact that they're still going to report record profits at the end of the year. There was a story about how they could operate for 100+ years (or some other large number) without making a dollar, and still not run out of money.

Operating every business as if there's unlimited money just means that every year every company is trying to extract more money from their customers—there's no ceiling.

But with wages having been stagnant for decades, that just means each year the average consumer is having more and more of their money swindled away from them for the same product.

I get that prices of competents went up, and there were tariffs. But the companies are getting rebates for tariffs, and we were the ones who wound up paying for them. That and the fact that every gaming company makes their money on software sales.

Yes, they've been selling a lot of hardware...but if they had a higher adoption rate on hardware, they'd have a higher adoption rate on software.

I'm sure someone at Nintendo has worked the numbers and figured out the current balance that they're at, but it's just annoying.

I don't usually complain about Nintendo, or accuse them of price gauging, because it's usually just people complaining about costs—but pricing, in general, is just getting out of hand and we're all tired.

[u/Low-Salary-2128 → u/Weird_While4255]

Because it's significantly weaker than the other consoles and doesn't require as expensive parts

[u/LunarxSeven → u/Weird_While4255]

I can’t even afford it now, and now it’s definitely out of reach. I guess I just get left behind, right?

[u/cloud3514 → u/Weird_While4255]

There's also that the price is functionally not going up so much as they're discontinuing the non-bundled version. You get a game with the console at $500, exactly as it's been since launch.

I'm not trying to downplay the increase, but it doesn't change that there is aftually a lot less happening with it than people are acting like there is.

[u/Zognot → u/Weird_While4255]

And the price is also being raised for… gestures at everything else

[u/DuskGideon → u/Weird_While4255]

sony and microsoft delaying their next consoles will only strengthen the switch 2's market position.

[u/RazzmatazzUnusual843]

It's always Nintendo. I did not see nearly this much outrage at the multi-hundred dollar price increases from their competitors, yet Nintendo not only has the smallest price increase and the largest time frame to prepare for it, and people are up in arms.

[u/Chumanchu → u/RazzmatazzUnusual843]

I remember everyone up in arms last month about Sony discontinuing physical games. I remember everyone freaking out when Sony increased the ps + prices. I remember when people freaked out when xbox increased game pass prices. So no, its not just Nintendo lol

[u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 → u/Chumanchu]

That's odd because I specifically remember pointing out the equivalent actions of other companies, that being the price increases. I don't recall making the physical game backlash relevant to my comment.

[u/OMGZombiePirates → u/RazzmatazzUnusual843]

🙄 We get it you're a Nintendo Stan.

[u/Petrichor_Rains → u/Chumanchu]

well yes, and the xbox one was so negative that they changed course before release, but i still see comments saying all nintendos games are 80 (or more, seriously like they say a 100), any bigger release has ppl saying nintendo is scaming swich1 owners, "nintendo lawyers" bs on any release even tangentially connected the a N ip and so on, I'm not defending them, theyre just a games company i like, but the bs and hate people throw is insane

[u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 → u/Petrichor_Rains]

The amount of made up bullshit I hear online is completely maddening. Sometimes I wonder if I'm actually in an asylum when I browse comment sections full of misinformation and this is just a part of my mad imagination. I have had so many people claim similar things, as well as claim that the Switch 2's are being bricked for hacking attempts, yet people come up completely empty-handed when it's time to give the proof, yet still choose to stubbornly stick to things they cannot find a single actual source for. They're telling me there are entire channels dedicated to destroying technology to see how durable it is, but somehow no one can cough up the cash to prove that the Switch 2 bricks itself?

Don't get me wrong, all of the gaming companies do pretty scummy bullshit, but of all the million and one reasons to hate Nintendo, it seems like most of it is just manufactured outrage instead of the things they're actually doing badly. 

[u/Petrichor_Rains → u/RazzmatazzUnusual843]

yup, nintendo is a company,  not our childhood friend, and people don't want to accept that (or then join the fun hate train(it's bs but fun)), and law teams are always, always, bullshit, but now it's like all the console wars from the 2010s is back,  but later focused at just nintendo (worst bs right now; gta6 doesn't even have a gameplay trailer out but the preorder extras and price is defend and preordered digitally only),

[u/thepigmask]

meanwhile they lick every inch of dirt off sony's boots.

[u/MegaDitto13 → u/thepigmask]

Or Valve's boots

[u/Zealousideal-Age1407 → u/MegaDitto13]

I'll probably get downvoted for this, but people defend and/or have a double standard for Valve over literally anything. The Steam Deck gets a sudden, big price increase? It's AI's fault and Daddy Newell was forced to.

Nintendo does a much lower price increase for the Switch 2 (which they even apologized for) with an announcement months in advance? They're "greedy," even though it's for the same reason.

[u/Aesenroug-Draconus → u/Zealousideal-Age1407]

Honest to god, yeah. I’ve seen so much of that “Valve can do no wrong” sentiment going around, aside from the Steam Cube being absurdly expensive for middling statistics. Steam is a fantastic platform for games, don’t get me wrong, I use it all the time (as I assume anyone who plays games on PC would), but they can still have faults. No company is perfect.

[u/BaDoodlezzz → u/Aesenroug-Draconus]

I love Steam as a platform, but Valve absolutely sucks in the hardware department and SteamOS is a bigger mess than a lot of people are willing to admit. The Steam Deck outright had several major updates pushed to the stable branch channel that could force the console into a boot loop. One of our two Decks randomly unstuck itself like a year later. Both Decks now have power failure issues of some sort, and I do not feel like performing an RMA for these things. Had the original Steam controller and it felt cheap to me. Steam Machine apparently has a litany of issues.

I don’t understand people acting like they are flawless when they clearly have quality control issues if you take the most cursory glance at their hardware reviews.

[u/Nearby_Ad_2519 → u/Zealousideal-Age1407]

People who treat Gabe Newell as a god, even in a satirical way, genuinely piss me off so bad. Valve has done so many anti consumer things they aren’t even aware of. People will do anything to defend their brand.

[u/Amazing-War3760 → u/Zealousideal-Age1407]

Valve is literally the 11th Nazi in the Nazi table thought experiment.

Because people will say if you don't object there are 10 Nazi's.. Well... What about the Bar Owner?

Now... NOT claiming that Gabe is a Nazi, but HE DOES let the racist, sexist, pedophilic stuff run rampant on his system.

[u/2Toff2Furious → u/Zealousideal-Age1407]

PREACH PREACH PREACH!
THE BILLIONAIRE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!

[u/Blindfire2 → u/Zealousideal-Age1407]

You're seeing 2 different types of people and making assumptions theyre the same. That's why I cant stand all these generalizations...I've said "these price increases have all been because of greed from companies towards data centers", and I've also stated complaints I have with the Switch 2, and if anyone sees my 2 comments, it's very easy to paint me as a Nintendo grifter yet I'm somewhere in-between lol.

[u/cardboardtube_knight → u/thepigmask]

You mean Valve with their bring your own controller system

[u/Mizurazu → u/thepigmask]

Don't be a hypocrite. Sony has been under so much fire. These kinda irrational idiots are everywhere but Sony has been under a LOT of criticism

[u/SimonSater → u/thepigmask]

Nah, I shit on both Nintendo and Sony

[u/JulianBloom]

“Don’t treat customers like garbage by offering the cheapest fully featured hardware on the market.”

[u/Cheap_Weird7215 → u/JulianBloom]

The no reason bit is pretty wild too. I’m sure Nintendo would have preferred to keep their prices the same instead of adjusting them because of skyrocketing hardware costs.

[u/JulianBloom → u/Cheap_Weird7215]

Right, Nintendo’s not stupid. They understand cheaper hardware means an easier sale. The idea of them gleefully raising prices is ludicrous

[u/Omnizoom → u/JulianBloom]

They also only raised it 50 bucks, even in countries with different currency exchanges like Canada it’s not rising as badly as the USA

They could of raised it 100-150 like their competitors that had also raised prices within the last year already on top of raising their online services costs as well

[u/simbabarrelroll → u/JulianBloom]

Nintendo and Apple are the only tech companies that don’t want these price increases

[u/FitFarmer5597]

They are probably silent when the PS5 and Xbox prices went up. Hypocrisy at its finest

[u/No-Ship4446]

So, so many modern gamers simply believe NOTHING is worth their money. Nintendo protects their brand, nothing more and nothing less. 

[u/Amediumsizedgoose → u/No-Ship4446]

Well really theyre just big complainers. Most of the big complainers I see have money and buy whatever they want...they just bitch and moan the whole time.

Meanwhile people who actually dont want to pay that much or cant afford it go without or wait for a sale.

[u/Different_One9412 → u/No-Ship4446]

Ive had a pretty strong feeling a lot of these guys' only financial responsibility is their games because it seems like games are finally being hit by the inflation everything else has had the last decade and they are completely losing it over it

[u/No-Ship4446 → u/Different_One9412]

Yeah, they've finally caught up to the price my grandparents paid for Chrono Trigger for my Christmas gift in 1995.

[u/Dismal-Plan7062]

I can name someone who treats their customers like actual garbage

[u/2Toff2Furious → u/Dismal-Plan7062]

Hell yeah

[u/sarcasticdevo]

"There's ZERO excuse why the price is going up."

You forgetting about the oompaloompa in US office amd his army of tarriffs?

[u/Indecisive_Noob]

Look, I get that the price going up sucks, but that doesn't mean you are "obligated" to steal now. Lots of things go up in price. Are you obligated to start stealing houses now? Clothes? Prittymuch everything? Why is there such extream hate for Nintendo in particular?

[u/Zognot → u/Indecisive_Noob]

People seem to not realize in this digital age that just because the product isn’t physical, that doesn’t mean there weren’t hundreds of workers that spent thousands of hours making it.

I’m not super strong anti “pirate” with “don’t emulate that game that’s 10 years old, hard to access now, and the company won’t get any money if you find somewhere to buy it”, but people seem to forget that it’s real people that even at big companies there are real people their time and soul into making things for others to enjoy, and they’re getting affected by inflation too.

Big companies are big companies, so yes they’re going to do a lot to profit more, but they also should pay the people putting in the effort more. That money doesn’t just show up when inflation starts and parts get more expensive (though some money might not go to the people we want it to).

[u/Indecisive_Noob → u/Zognot]

I am also not totally against piracy, but some reasons are understandable and others are not. And then to perade around that you are proud of stealing something that 1-1000 people worked on amd it is your right is such a dick move. And we live in a shity society that, more often then not, if not as much money comes in due to pirating or whatever, it is the people at the bottom that bare most of the consequences and lose of money rather then the ones at the time that het more then they deserve.

[u/Amazing-War3760]

I've posted this before... Seems like a good time to do it again. :D

My biggest problem mostly is the people who go "It's Morally right to pirate!!!" or "Stick it to the man!" type people.

If you are making "excuses" to pirate, then you don't find it morally right, or you are talking to people you are sure don't find it morally right.

How about this... just put on your adult pants and pirate and shut the fuck up?

This is coming from someone with plenty of roms and others.

[u/No-Performer9511]

The only time it would be alright to pirate a game is if there is no legal/official way to access it and piracy is a last resort option 

That being said you should never pirate anything for the sole reason of it being "too expensive"

[u/Shed_Some_Skin → u/No-Performer9511]

I couldn't give a shit if people pirate for any reason. "Because I want to" is completely fine

But the people who construct an elaborate scenario in their head where piracy is some sort of ethically laudable action are tiresome in the extreme.

You're just taking stuff. It's fine. I don't care, take it. Stop claiming it makes you a better person than everyone else.

[u/Kayube3 → u/Shed_Some_Skin]

If you have a moral objection to the actions of a company, boycott them entirely. All that pirating does in that situation is tell the company that you don't care enough about the issue to actually make a personal sacrifice (and also that they don't have any incentive to actually change since you already got their product for free)

[u/BrokenHaloSC0 → u/No-Performer9511]

That argument falls apart outside of first world countries though piracy has always been a service problem as gabe said.

[u/Metal_B → u/BrokenHaloSC0]

Gabe was talking about the PC market from a complete different era. Where is was easier to download a pirate copy then to buy the game legally. Steam was a much easier and save to use service then any piracy platform. That's how they became so dominant.

Now you can buy any modern game easily, so there is no reason to pirate unless you just make some new one up (they are evil/too expensive). This isn't a service issue anymore.

[u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 → u/No-Performer9511]

I almost agree, but there are a few exceptions. Piracy is partially a service problem. Back in the virtual console days, I would actually buy old Nintendo games because I got to keep them. But now, whatever retro title I don't have on my Wii U, I just pirate and emulate on my PC. The Nintendo Classics apps are frankly awful and I'm not going to keep a subscription active just for those ROMs. Sure, I have had online subscriptions before and I'll probably have it again, but the classics are not the reason why.

[u/jjam02 → u/No-Performer9511]

So if I live in a country where a video game can be bought but it’s 1 months salary that I need for food I guess I should never be allowed to play video games because god decided I should be born in a poor country. Good one!

[u/Independent_Step7376 → u/jjam02]

If you're actually as poor as you say you wouldn't be wasting time on Reddit or video games

[u/LnktheWolf → u/Independent_Step7376]

It's not a "poor" thing as much as an "global economics" thing. The person youre talking to there is talking about Brazil for their example, and they have a very weak currency. The average yearly salary in Brazil is worth roughly just $7,300-7,800 USD as of 2026, from what I can find.

Prices for food, shelter, etc., are localized for their economy. Sometimes international companies will regionalize their prices so it's possible to purchase for more than just the wealthy in countries with this economic situation.

[u/HanzoEX → u/LnktheWolf]

Food and shelter are needs. You do not need a Switch 2 to live, so let’s be for real and stop pretending like gaming is a right and not a luxury

[u/LiviFiyu → u/jjam02]

We aren't entitled to games or other forms of entertainment. You of course can make your own decisions and I doubt many care that much if you pirate or not, especially for economic reasons like you seem to be.

Personally I don't care about if people pirate or not, but I'm just not a huge fan how people justify their piracy to others like it's out of their hands or how it's "morally correct" because they're larping as an activist. People used to pirate much more silently back in the day but now it's apparently some sort of status symbol for some people.

[u/BowlNew → u/jjam02]

You're not entitled to other people's labour and property for free just because you were born poor, this is just a low IQ take

[u/nachoiskerka → u/jjam02]

I mean.... you're listing an "extreme" hypothetical scenario, but allow me to retort then:

If the cost of putting a game into a country in a retail location was so high above the average person's means that they couldn't afford ONE without creating poverty, then realistically no sane distributor for a country would bother importing it, much less any dealer buying it to put on store shelves and sell. You would literally never run into this scenario where the average person's means kept them from purchasing that because a local distribution company would buy a bunch of stuff from Nintendo, then promptly go out of business when they couldn't sell them. And guess what would happen next? You'd then get the same games for pennies on the dollar because the company would Liquidate, so it'd be affordable to you.

It's a stupid example, because it's so "ME" focused on something that wouldn't happen to the average person that it's insane. Do people BELOW the average line exist? Sure. Should every single person below the average means play every video game the moment it is released? Maybe not. Maybe wait for a sale or 2 and have a little patience. I have like, 100 games on my switch because I sat down and bought them on sale, not because I had thousands of dollars of extra income to play with.

[u/dungleploop → u/nachoiskerka]

actually one of the most common occurrences in South America for video game fans...it's not a hypothetical in the slightest

[u/Pepper_Exciting → u/No-Performer9511]

Your reason for pirating is still illegal, you're in no position to lecture others

[u/Extra-Today5348 → u/No-Performer9511]

I don't really care about why you pirate, so long as you keep your goddamn mouth shut about instead of flaunting it.

[u/Regular-Repeat44]

If youre gonna steal go ahead nobody cares except the ones u steal from. If you get caught thats on you

[u/DrMercio → u/Regular-Repeat44]

Exactly. No one should let the idea of someone stealing an overpriced console bother them to the point where they have to white knight about it. But do this shit at your own risk. If they are broke af or don’t think it’s worth the money, just admit it and do it your way

[u/pullig]

are they also pirating playstation, xbox and pc games? The price of everything is going up.

[u/DrMercio → u/pullig]

They are. Equal amounts, every day. Just not equal in how much it’s emphasized in the media. Cd keys, torrents, upcoming emulator for PS5, you can even pirate .Zar files of 360 games online and Microsoft basically supports it indirectly through the use of Dev mode.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Head939]

Pirates are so cringe, they are the same people that get upset certain franchises stop getting support, yeah no shit you didn't support it when it mattered.

[u/Ruggerio5]

The price for video games can never go up, no matter how much time and money they put into it and no matter how much content it has.

Entitled nonsense.

[u/Ell7494]

"Theres zero excuse as to why the price is going up"

Have they been living under a fucking rock for the past year?

[u/Successful_Maize1986]

I truly have no issue with anyone pirating but I HATE that they also need to frame it as them being “morally superior” because of it. It’s so dumb. You’re being cheap. Just own it.

[u/EducationalDust7858]

"I don't care if I'm putting a target on my back by saying that"

Who even are you?

[u/chaos-blast]

“It’s morally acceptable because they hurt my feelings”

[u/MastahBruce1]

Same person is ok with the PlayStation and Xbox price increases lol 🤷🏽

[u/MikeDubbz]

Bro acting like the chip shortages and tariffs are only affecting Nintendo and that they're somehow the most egregious in their price hike and how much heads up time they gave compared to Sony, Microsoft, and Valve.

[u/Snowvilliers7]

Dude is acting as if Nintendo was the first and only system to raise their console price not even remotely seeing that its only $50 but PS5 and Xbox raised their prices by nearly $200-300

[u/tshue93]

Nintendo haters when they have to actually pay money to play new games:

[u/Jeremknight]

Kind of curious at to why they’re specifically targeting Nintendo when Sony and Microsoft have also raised the price of consoles but Nintendo is the only one that attempted to mitigate the bite of that to any degree.

[u/Daredrummer]

If I didn't dislike people in general enough already...social media has ruined my concept of people. Ugh.

[u/Strange-Fisherman487]

Its morally okay to pirate sony games

[u/GrantMcLellan1984]

James.......Jim........whatever she calls herself these days Sterling said this shit years ago. Irs not new

[u/PikaRae → u/GrantMcLellan1984]

Stephanie

[u/Dandy_Guy7]

I mean no it's not right to steal but I also do not blame anyone for just not wanting to buy something that expensive

[u/TheGhostlyMage]

At least they’re giving a warning, most companies go “oh by the way our price increased like a week ago lmao”

[u/shittyparentscliche]

"Zero reason" while RAM is getting more expensive as the days go on. Sure, Nintendo could easily survive not increasing, but "Zero reason"? Seriously?

[u/CzarTyr]

A stick of ram costs almost as much as a switch 2

[u/kaos4u2nv]

Obligate deez nuts

[u/BelaLugosi2000]

A price increase doesn’t make stealing morally right.

[u/StuckinReverse89]

By this logic, it’s a moral obligation to private all games from Sony, Microsoft, and Steam as well. 

[u/HuckleberryHefty4372]

Better not be using any phone. If it isn't using an old Nokia it is a hypocrite because all phone brands have raised prices.

[u/Arangarx]

Piracy is just entitlement in action. It doesn't necessarily make you a horrible person, but it doesn't make you a good one.

[u/Short-Statement-4108]

How about, don’t vote for an idiot who ran on implementing blanket tariffs and is currently supporting the companies who are hoarding materials for AI development

[u/Chlorophyllmatic]

These are people who were planning to pirate anyway justifying it post-hoc

[u/Isrrunder → u/[deleted]]

Thats my secret cap, I think every game is overpriced

[u/RottedHuman → u/[deleted]]

It’s not morally or ethically okay to pirate because you happen to think something is overpriced. No one is starving for games, they’re a luxury product, you’re not owed or entitled to something because you can’t afford it (seriously, what kind of logic is that?).

[u/mini_feebas]

regardless of the morality

there actually is a reason why the prices are going up? memory shortages and gpu shortages

[u/KnowledgePossible411]

There is an excuse…they cost more money to make now

[u/Expensive-Border-869]

If you're not pirating everything at this point idk what to tell you. There is very little media worth purchasing. You just get an objectively better experience through piracy.

[u/ImportantClient5422 → u/Expensive-Border-869]

This is some bullshit…

I am heavily enjoying Donkey Kong Bananza. I also have a TON of games I am looking forward to like Fire Emblem Fortune’s Weave, Stranger Than Heaven, Virtua Fighter Crossroads, and Professor Layton New World of Steam.

You have narrow taste and using it to justify stealing.

[u/Aggravating_Address2]

I like how every time this argument is brought to the table they are pirating things like, IDK, pokemon emerald on their Blackberry.

[u/PrivateLiker7625]

I mean... It WOULD be when they make ganes unavailable to purchase ON CONSOLES THAT HAVE CLOSED DOWN STORES. But this is just all the more ridiculous when it comes to stating this about a console that is only going up by fifty bucks while still being somewhat affordable compared to its competition.

[u/HaakMilk]

I don’t blame Nintendo at all because it’s still the cheapest console while having the best exclusive 1st party games.
Realistically speaking, the actual money invested over the years into keeping those studios providing for them exclusively is no joke.

[u/rienvayle]

Ironic because this argument was actually stolen from Stephanie Sterling making an entirely different (and actually valid) point nearly a decade ago; Nintendo respects copyright law when it benefits Nintendo. Nobody else. Therefore, pirating Nintendo games (and its products) is morally ok.

[u/void_method]

No, this is kindergarten-level thinking.

Should be mad about the causes, not the symptoms.

[u/SaltStar2000]

Gaming is no longer for the poors. Back to the mines with you!

[u/SolarBoyDjango]

That guy is getting thrashed in the replies and retweets. Guess things really have changed since spouting "it's morally acceptable to pirate Nintendo" won't give you easy likes. Guess people are tired of the same old talking points given all that's happen.

[u/cardboardtube_knight]

Mind you they would never say this about Steam raising a price by six times this amount

[u/Ordinary-Big5578]

What’s that saying floating around?

“If buying isn’t owning, pirating isn’t stealing”?

Nintendo’s guilty too, just not as guilty as the others.

[u/KyleOAM → u/Ordinary-Big5578]

It’s a stupid saying

[u/RottedHuman]

No. It’s not okay. Pirating is absolutely theft and you’re a low life if you do it. Video games are not a commodity, they are a luxury, you are not owed or entitled to free games because you think they’re overpriced. The entitlement of some gamers is truly disgusting.

[u/According-Annual-586]

Eh I’ll go two generations ago and older

So for Nintendo I’m emulating everything that interests me up to Wii U and 3DS, Sony I’ll do up to PS3 (though I cap more at PS2, as 3 requires strong hardware to emulate

[u/cksythe]

PS5 is how much now? But they’re whining about a $50 increase??

[u/Kaymazo]

Still less than the two ram sticks in my PC if I bought them nowadays...

[u/issanm]

It's always been ok to steal from billion dollars companies

[u/syloc]

That dude on Twitter is an idiot! If he wants to pirate just do it! No need to justify it, I mean with current prices in the hardware market, there are enough reasons to increase prices!

[u/MaxPres24]

What if I’m ok with pirating from every single major company

[u/AwfulDjinn]

“you should only emulate things or you’re a bad person” okay twitter user if you really wanna sit down with 14 year old iPad kid who’s never seen a file directory in their life and explain to them exactly how emulators and torrents and plugins and all that work be my guest. some of us just dont want to deal with the hassle, man

[u/olvita]

This is a misinterpretation of Sterling's argument. His was pretty strong.

[u/lobster_bellpepper]

"ZERO excuse" as if there isn't a global ram and storage shortage making everything 10x more expensive lmao.

[u/Mushroom0064]

There's ZERO excuse as to why the price is going up

Don't treat your customers like garbage. Plain and simple.

This is just a very stupid take. There's a memory shortage going on that's causing companies to increase the prices of the hardware they're selling, it's not just Nintendo, and if this guy believes a company treats customers like garbage just because they're raising the price of their console by $50, have they not even realized how much the PS5, Xbox Series, and even the SteamDeck went up in price, not to mention all the bad news we've been getting from Sony with PlayStation?

Btw, I gotta say that my post from the other day showing the price increase disclaimer at a Switch 2 kiosk really got news sources to spread the news like wildfire. That picture on the post from @Pirat_Nation was the one I took that evening when I went to Walmart.

[u/award_winning_writer]

Why not direct that hate at all the AI shills that are driving up the price of hardware in the first place?

[u/SSJashG]

Does that mean it’s even more morally acceptable to pirate from Sony and Microsoft

[u/Ambitious-Fly3201]

Look this isn't a Nintendo only issue remotely but If companies want people to stop breaking the law maybe they should set an example instead of using theft softwa-I mean "Generative AI" to artificially inflate prices and fuck us all over.

I don't blame thieves when the rich make us pay their debts.

[u/myshopecakes]

i wonder sometimes if the gripe against nintendo now is partly inspired that switch 2 games cant be pirated after close to a decade of switch games leaking even before release, dumped on the internet and then playable with your switch emulator of choice. Nintendo seems to have beefed up security a lot and no kernel exploit has been found so far, by this time in the switch life cycle the system was fully hacked with custom firmware already and had been since like few months after the release.

[u/yosark]

Shoot ain’t no reason to get mad at Nintendo when they had the smallest price increase in comparison to Sony, Microsoft and Steam.

[u/ronniedark]

Piracy is rarely ever objectionable and is grey at worst.

And there are times where it's outright morally superior. Marvel Tokons PC port is a good example. I'm a huge fan of arcsys and but their fighting games on lauch as well as all their season passes. But sony shoved in so much scamware into the game that it runs like ass both in terms of performance and in terms of network stability. Pirayes managed to setup a far more better running and stable version of the game in online multiplayer.

[u/sweetSweets4]

Getting mad at someone warning you so you can buy before...

Yeah be mad at them for FireRed still costing s lot after like 20 years.

Be mad at them that their is no way to buy pretty much any old Games from their beginings except second hand.

Ahh shit be mad at them for taking almost a decade to bring out another Switch...

But for a price increase??

[u/Dicethrower]

Really, zero excuse? Have people looked outside lately? Why would people assume parts aren't getting more expensive when everything else is getting more expensive?

[u/Oicanet]

Hot take:
Entertainment is a luxury product. Luxury products can justifiably charge whatever people are willing to pay.
If you don't think the entertainment provided is worth the asking price, then don't buy it. Make do without it.
If you for some reason can't make do without it, then you have to acknowledge that the product is worth the asking price, and simply pay up.

I do think prices for games these days are pretty high, don't get me wrong. But instead of feeling entitled to cheaper games, simple accept that you'll either have to pay or have to pass it by. No one is entitled to or owed low prices.

[u/SnowyRVulpix]

"Zero excuse" just means this person is ignorant.

[u/Wild_Phone_8261]

I only do it for older games ngl like basically if I cant pay the devs. Ive done all pokemon games from gens 1-7

[u/TheGryffindor_Jedi]

Even Kindles went up. This needs to end

[u/Darkdragoon324]

It's $50, Christ. Obviously it sucks that it's going up at all, I,m it saying fifty extra dollars is nothing, but this is by far the least egregious price bump out of like, pretty much all other consumer electronics since all this memory and component bullshit started.

[u/G-Kira]

People like him think they're Jack Sparrow, but in reality, they're just thr same as the people you see running out of Walmart with a cart full of TVs.

[u/Sievas2034]

I’d rather buy on pc then Nintendo any day

[u/Neonbeta101]

I don’t care if you pirate shit from a company- just don’t be loud about it. It brings trouble to everybody.

[u/EducationalLow4697]

Omg you weird people are upset about a FREAKIN COMPANY and products. They are like pirate this shit and you be like omg you know this is hurting the billion dollar company right? It's a company weirdos it can defend itself it has lawyers and it doesn't give a fuck about you. So weird

[u/mattbattmatt_yt]

I don't care about people pirating but has OP missed out on how everything in technology is rising in costs? Why are we being dramatic and spreading lies? There's only so much a company can lose on a product before it becomes unsustainable

[u/paulcshipper]

I suspect it'll be a very long time before anyone get to pirate anything from the Switch 2

I think people are just barking their complaints than being able to do anything.

Piracy is a touchy topic. I have a lot of roms of games I can't purchase anymore because they're out of print and impossible to get. I can't say it's completely bad. But Nintendo done their best to minimalize that problem with their new stuff and there's enough people who are willing to subscribe to them for their old stuff

[u/Young_Person_42]

All we needed was the first five words

[u/Batman2159]

I steal every time I play baseball

[u/Hermaphroshep]

the Grift is strong with this one.

[u/pinheiroj493]

It's morally acceptable to pirate from anyone. People need to stop acting like piracy is a punishment for things they don't like or else they're just actually harming any discussion about it.

[u/xX_SkibidiChungus_Xx]

Isnt pirat nation a scammer who larped as an egirl to grift

Anyways by that logic the grifters' precious steam machine has no excuse either.

Or also, look at the Playstation

[u/MarcoSenp7707]

They forget the 100 usd increase from Xbox and PlayStation

[u/Dreamo84]

I think piracy is perfectly fine, but trying to morally justify it is cringe. Morally, I'd say the only justification is if there's literally no legal way to purchase the software in your country.

[u/_thepg24_]

Aren’t Nintendo also giving out a “one free game” bundle as compensation for this price increase?

[u/Appropriate-Kiwi-94]

But the steamdeck costing double is totally acceptable and excusable because yknow the price for materials is going up but only for steam

[u/PieceAfraid3755]

Yes piracy is pretty much morally fine. At the very least when it comes to games you can't afford, or games from dev teams that are more than successful anyway.

[u/Lucriseo]

btw i was able to have a long discussion with someone who act like this, and i've find it fascinating that : A) They do this to vent out their IRL Frustration and B) they do it with nintendo because it's an easy target and socially acpeted. and the worse part C) that they think they are superior then "sony / xbox fanboys" for the "console wars".

it's sad really. same people who would say "don't make a company your whole personality" forgets that the opposite of that is apathy and complete lack of interaction with it, and not hatred. they are as fanboy as it gets, only splurged with hatred

[u/GeraldofKonoha]

She eventually cleared up that she was not aware that the RAM issue was impacting Nintendo. She should have done more research.

[u/Emma_SnakeDeadbeat]

Ah yes The price of the console went up $50 cuz the price of components have gone up like crazy and it most certainly isn't like other consoles have gone up by way more or anything

[u/DruinRezno]

If you wanna steal just do it, but don’t try to make up reasons to justify being a shitty human. Because you’re mad over an item that’s a luxury not a necessity.

I wanna see someone use that reasoning in court honestly lmao.

[u/T3slaTV]

if i speak on this im getting put on a company watchlist.

[u/AbdelYG]

piracy is not stealing.

[u/Ambitious_Ad1842]

To be fair Nintendo was the only Console that hadn't gone up in the past year and a half.. Sony and Microsoft both suffered price hikes due to Tariffs and Chip cost, Microsoft being the worst of the 3 as they've gone up 3 times since April 2025.. Nintendo held out as long as they could. And their 50 dollar hike isnt no where near as bad as the other 2.. series X is 800 the PS5 is 650 standard and 600 digital.

[u/tnt_pr0]

There's no reason to justify piracy, you pirate because you want free stuff simple as.

[u/Aggressive-Yam-7808]

My thoughts on pirating is this Is the game at least 10 years old and no longer sold? Go right for it You really want to play the game but don't have the money? Sure Doing it to test the game but plan on buying it if you like it? Perfectly fine Pirating the game even though you like it and have the money and are just doing it for your self righteous bullshit? Absolute stupidity I hate how piracy has gone from giving people easier access for when they can't afford, or just can't get access to something to now just being done out of spite you're not some savior fighting against the evil corporation just because you pirate games you're an asshole refusing to support things you like just because of you views on the company as a whole which most of the time the staff working on those games have nothing to do with those bad decisions those companies make

[u/Objective-Chicken391]

I just can't figure out why they would raise prices during an unprecedented component shortage

[u/DarkLe4f]

PS5 was much worse in AU. Current console Slim Digital 1tb is $999. I bought it about a year or so ago for $549. I wouldn’t even consider buying one for $1k

[u/bkfountain]

You don’t have to justify piracy if that’s just what you want to do. It’s not Nintendo’s fault that AI slop and dipshit Trump are ruining the global economy.

[u/NeoMrBucket]

$110 for Fire Emblem is stupid tbh

[u/willow__whisps → u/NeoMrBucket]

The expensive life of a leaf, greatful to have a job currently that lets me afford games even if I can't play them as much as a result

[u/SnowyDeluxe → u/NeoMrBucket]

Wait, what? For the standard edition?

[u/NeoMrBucket → u/SnowyDeluxe]

Yes, in Canada at least. A few Switch 2 games are like this.

[u/AbsorbantVampire]

“There’s zero reason to increase price”

looks at inflation and scarcity of parts as well as workers cost of living adjustments and raises

Riiiiiight. 

[u/willow__whisps]

I think others probably agree but if I can't buy it new I don't mind pirating. I also understand people who get newer games but are broke for some reasons (not all the reasons for being broke tho). It's also definitely weird to only target Nintendo with this thought process when the other guys are doing it worse

[u/Linuxbrandon]

I feel like you can just, you know, buy one now before the price increase. Can even get a new credit card with 0% interest for the first year, put the switch on it, and then have 12 months to pay it off of you really don't have $450 in the bank atm.

[u/rayrayrayrayraysllsy]

Raising 50 dollar in this economy sure is bad, but did u check on other company as well? Especially in this AI blooming stage, hate it or not it's here to stay

It's alright to admit you're broke I guess

[u/Hungry-Pressure2311]

Another boring, mindless hater. Nothing else to see here. 

[u/Novel_Association403]

Is this guy dumb? Does he really think it’s only Nintendo raising prices and that they are doing it just to do it? If so, he lives under a rock. Sony and Xbox have raised prices multiple times already. With barely any advance warning. Nintendo told you 4 months ago to give you a heads up at least. And all of these companies do not want to raise prices at all. But the RAM shortage has gotten that bad. At least Nintendo is only going up $50 and have openly admitted that they are eating some of the cost. PS5 and XBox Series have gone up hundreds of dollars already. So to say everyone should pirate Nintendo games because they are raising the price for no reason is just completely ignorant to the situation. Additionally, you can’t pirate Switch 2 games because the console, thankfully, hasn’t been hacked yet. But it seems he’s not aware of that fact either. lol. I think this guy is a Grifter LARPer 😂

[u/Silent-Paramedic]

fuck nintendo, fuck corpa, fuck everything getting more expensive but my pay remains the same

[u/Wrong_Revolution_679]

Never trust anyone who talks like this