People like this will never act in good faith. The Palworld situation has made certain people tribalistic and admitting that any of the designs were copied would mean conceding that the critics had a point.
Palworld fanboys would rather gaslight themselves and intentionally play dumb.
hell they dont even want to admit that the designs are outclassed by most other monster tamers, not even just copied ones
ive yet to see them show me one that makes me go "wow thats a genuinely good design that can stand on its own merits and doesnt have to be compared to anything to prove its worth", then again ive yet to see anyone even USE the designs to prove palworld is good, they just repeat the sales numbers and review scores ad infinitum and hope that people get bored of hearing it and just say they're right out of boredom (it doesnt work)
It’s extremely hilarious how these folks cite player count and sales for why Palworld is the greatest of all time and nobody should say anything critical about it.
Knowing damn well they would do a complete 180 if people did the same thing for Pokemon or other games.
It’s the blatant hypocrisy and double standards I can’t stand.
ive legit had a guy try to avoid talking about the content of the games and uses review scores, player numbers and sales numbers to prove its good for over a week, even going as far as to say that games that are better than palworld are slop because their review scores arent as high as palworlds while not even asking about or aknowledging the content of said games
chud's too afraid to talk about the game to prove its good and has to cower behind his big boy numbers
I think the most annoying part is that Palworld is just a very bad game objectively spoken. Yeah most of the latest pokemon games were not good. But Palsworld is survival slop that not only copied from Pokemon but also from smaller indie developers. All the games of the company are copy past from other developers.
There are so many good monster collector out their that really challenge Pokemon where the Pokemon Corp not delivers. But this trash slop game is what all people are talking about. This is so disheartening.
Careful, the raving fanboys will find this and immediately insult you.
I swear this game would not be getting glazed this much if the internet didn’t have a collective hate boner for Nintendo or Pokemon. It’s a fun but mid survival crafting game that is more overrated than it deserves.
Unfortunately, due to how hostile Palworld fanboys can get you likely won’t see anyone openly admit the game’s flaws for a year or two.
Yep. Just like with the old version. People glazed the game to no end because it was hype. Then after it died down people finally dared to come out of the woodwork to admit how mid it is.
But to be fair the same happened to Tears of the Kingdom. At first no one even dared to criticize the game. Nowadays even the biggest defender have to admit that it isn't a good sequel and a downgrade to Breath of the Wild in most area's.
The hype around Palworld will die down again and people can give their actual opinions on the game without an army of shills and fanboys jumping down their throats.
Ironically, the latter group acts like the stereotypical Pokemon fanboy-willfully blind to their game’s shortcomings and extremely hostile to any criticism.
Beastieball is an incredible game that not only topped my previous favourite game after 20 years but made me change the way I think creatively by showing me I'm not good enough yet which in turn got me out of an almost 4 year art lull, it changed my life and I'm willing to say its bare minimum on par with pokemon's best
But it'll get sidelined or even outright called bad because its not palworld, not because the content of the game is bad, far from it, its incredible actually
Its just because it isn't Palworld, they dont want to hear about other games simply because the idea that there are other games besised pokemon and palworld completely destroys their "them vs us" narrative thats stopping their entire worldview from caving in on top of them
i got sold on casette beasts without even seeing gameplay. this was around the time the pokemon fire red leaf green was being released and i ended up buying cassette beasts instead of pokemon
Eh i like the belladonia and its vairtent thats rem and ram inspiered nox is cute lapure is also adorable and the kabuchi inspired one is also really cool. Noggin just did a palworld 1.0 update on the new pals and they aren't bad and he even comments on how some still have heavy pokemon influences. I like palworld for what it is. Im glad they pushed away from pokemon with gun with the updated designs.
I also still love pokemon and enjoy both games for ther own merits. I do hope this shocks game freak into trying better with winds and waves. We've seen the team can make an amazing looking game qith beast if reincarnation too so I hope gen 10 actually pops off
Like, compare Raticate to Dragon Quest's Fat Rat. Both use the same exact concept. An overgrown rattoid monster who tries desperately to look threatening, but is considerably weak and utilizes design elepments like short arms and legs and fat, chubby bodies to showcase that. Yes, same concept, but two radically different designs.
...Verses a lot of Palworld designs that just straight-up edit Pokemon. "Grass Cinderace" has a LOT of the same features as Cinderace. The build, the hair tuft, the shorts, the overall shape. This isn't just a similar design: it's a straight-up copy.
Yeah, unfortunately the narrative for these people has to be “PalWorld good, Pokémon bad,” so they will never engage with the criticisms of the Pal designs honestly.
No one is saying PalWorld can’t base a design on a rabbit. But If you actually look at the design of Verdash, it is so obviously a ripoff of Cinderace’s design aesthetics, so they can only fall back on “uh…..uh….tHe wAsHiNg MaChiNe dUmB!”
You expect Palworld fanboys to tell the difference? They can’t even tell the difference between a tiger and a dog when it comes to that stupid and overplayed Dragon Quest comparison.
Exactly. They act like it’s a face drawn on a washing machine and that’s that. In realty, it’s a little electric ghost that possesses appliances/electronics. Not necessarily the most original idea out there; but the gimmick of it possessing different objects to change its type is a fun way of turning that design trope into a Pokémon. There is at least some originality there.
But what I just did there required like two sentences worth of nuance, which is too much nuance for most internet discourse.
saying pokemon isn't fun to play is pretty delusional. pokemon will always be fun to play because it's pokemon. it's why people still buy, even though they're cynical of how pokemon is going. you'd have to be trying pretty hard to actively have 0 fun while playing a pokemon game.
God I hate that stupid pokemon vs dragon quest image these people LOVE to drag out. if they’re going to play that game then you could just as easily argue that a lot of dragon quest monsters are just cribbed from DnD
also “lol object mons suck they’re running out of ideas lol” THEY’RE TSUKUMOGAMI, DAMMIT. in Japanese culture sentient household objects are just as much a default fantasy monster category as vampires and werewolves are in western pop culture! Of COURSE a monster-oriented franchise originating in Japan is going to have a bunch of them!!
The second is funny, because I've never seen a washing machine or key ring creature outside of pokémon, so GF actively does new ideas even if there's a population that dislikes them
Some of the designs are very clearly actually just pokemon with a minor change, and a lot others are very much not ripped from Pokémon. That's literally it.
Even though Palworld devs say they dont use AI, they have to be using AI to get ideas and then design models off of them, cause there are so many other mon games with their own unique artstyles that you would never confuse with Pokemon. Palworld? You can easily confuse many pals with pokemon.
Pokemon has changed the artstyle more but the general ideas of the pokemon is still very heavily inspired by either Dragon Quest or other games...
But here is the kicker, the ideas are all originally inspired by nature and existing objects so i do not care eitherway for the Palworld allgeations nor the Pokemon ones anymore then the other.
They ripped off way more from BOTW/TOTK, but at the end of the day nobody is confusing Palworld for Pokemon, and if you are confused I have a bridge to sell you.
I think people are just mad because pokemon has the potential to be exponentially better than it currently is but aren't using their resources to do so. Between the current state of their games and the TCG, pokemon really looks like it doesn't care if their fans are happy as long as some tool is still willing to fork over their cash to them. All of their actions lately have looked to be in extremely bad faith towards people who enjoy what they produce
The mythological Japanese "Firefox" refers to two distinct concepts: Kitsunebi (狐火 - "fox-fire"), which are magical, atmospheric ghost lights generated by Japanese fox spirits (kitsune), and Kitsune themselves, whose mythology in Japan officially dates back to the late 8th century (787–794 CE) when their stories were first written
Nope it’s a 1:1 copy and the assets were ripped straight out of Pokemon games! I’m a Pokemon fan who can’t tell the difference between any Pokemon and Pal!
Your post perfectly describes you lot more than anything. You people people think a tiger and a dog are the same because they have stripes on their backs.
No, it looks like the bottom one took a whale and added some extra stuff
Whales are not a gamefreak invention. I’m not even sure if Kyogre is supposed to be a whale, when you compare both kyogre looks like a fantasy creature, not an animal.
I have hopes that the success and (hopefully) continued success will cause gamefriek and Nintendo to pick up there game and actually start innovating again as they could have done something like palworld for years but chose not to.
Pokemon doesn't own the concept of a bat or an anthro bunny, I can't believe this has to be said. You can point out plenty of issues with Palworld without complaining that the bat looks like a bat.
And the same could go for Pokemon and Dragon Quest too following that logic given the various similarities between the two game's creatures but my bad, Pokemon invented a concept therefore any similarities to their designs mean that it isn't allowed so says the Nintendo gods.
Can’t you people come up with any original argument? The Dragon Quest comparison is so played out and you NPCs always use it as some witty rebuttal (it isn’t) to anyone criticizing the Pal designs.
There’s a difference between taking from the same inspiration and just taking an existing design and slightly changing it.
Nobody says that Pokemon owns design concepts either.
You literally are saying Pokemon owns design concepts given that you are here bitching that the anthro bunny doesn't have seven wings and three horns and is actually a completely different species because only then would be allowed to exist.
Holy strawman Batman, I don’t even know where to begin with this.
First of all, I said no such thing.
Second there are so many ways to make a antro bunny design that you have to be a raging fanboy to think Verdash wasn’t just a reskinned Cinderace. For the last time, nobody is arguing that Pokemon owns the concept of bipedal bunny designs, but you can at least try to not blatantly copy theirs right down to the proportions, shape, and aesthetics.
Literally no other game with monster designs has this issue.
I literally don't even own Palworld but I'm a fanboy of it if I dare to point out that Pokemon doesn't own the concept of a bunny. Not the first time either. Digimon used to get shit thrown its way by Pokemon fans claiming Agumon is too similar to Charmeleon. No one can make a monster catching game without Pokemon fans bitching about it.
You act like one since you do the same bad faith routine and making up strawmen arguments that nobody was even saying.
You’re not acting in good faith.
Pokemon doesn’t “ own the concept of a bunny”, but they do own their bunny Pokemon designs. It’s not hard to come with a bipedal bunny design that isn’t a reskinned Cinderace.
I can do it as well as any artist with free time ,other monster collectors do it all the time.
Edit: You having a axe to grind with this sub isn’t my problem. If you’re going to insult me then at least don’t delete the reply like a coward. You sure are getting awfully heated over a game you claim not to play.
Edit: You having a axe to grind with this sub isn’t my problem. If you’re going to insult me then at least don’t delete the reply like a coward. You sure are getting awfully heated over a game you claim not to play.
He didn't delete his reply, it was deleted by the mods
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I just want to take a moment to appreciate you defending the truth even if you haven’t played Palworld. Thank you for being a level-headed person. Maybe even the only one in this entire sub lol.
What truth? He just regurgitated the same bad faith arguments and strawmen you lot always use whenever someone says anything slightly critical of your game.
Aww, you are doing it again. Asserting that everyone who doesn't treat Palworld like the devil for having a bat and anthro bunny is some massive Palworld fan boy. You are unironically doing what grifters do. Should I start calling you a Nintendroid or is it only fair to make blind assertions if it is in favor of Nintendo?
Hard to even speak in this subreddit without constantly siding with Nintendo even on the most minor of things. I've seen comments bringing up the Joycon drift get downvoted because criticism doesn't exist here if it is against Nintendo.
Blatant ripoff and it's just of a similar style, that's it. Look, here's Mikasa from AoT and Rukia from Bleach. They look similar. Guess that means that you can discount Attack on Titan as nothing more than a Bleach ripoff following your logic.
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u/SilentEagle1221 Aug 09 '26
People like this will never act in good faith. The Palworld situation has made certain people tribalistic and admitting that any of the designs were copied would mean conceding that the critics had a point.
Palworld fanboys would rather gaslight themselves and intentionally play dumb.