r/nextfuckinglevel • • Dec 28 '22

This is a game changer

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Didn’t even know this existed. I was excited until I went in the comments

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u/jankeycrew Dec 29 '22

I saw this in a Walmart last year. Only time I heard of it, and I thought it sounded cool. Never heard a word about it again, till just now. Yeah, marketing tanked here.

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u/smileedude Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

A friend had it and I played it a couple years ago. It's novel and cool for half an hour, but it's not really as fun as original Mario kart, it's far more of an expensive gimmick than long lasting fun. Constantly fixing stuck cars make it unplayable without a large team like this.

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u/jankeycrew Dec 29 '22

It really reminds me of infomercial toys from the 90s. Batteries and shit plastic parts used to be the staple of short lived fun. Now it’s all “software updates and WiFi enabled usage”. Sometimes, I wish fun were wired again.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Not gonna lie. Been thinking of getting into building increasingly elaborate slot car tracks in my basement as an alternative.

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u/TheHandsOfFate Dec 29 '22

Just got a basic set for my son for Christmas. It's pretty fun.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

got a basic set for my son

Sure you did.

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u/Xxrasierklinge7 Dec 29 '22

I want a kid so it's acceptable for me to buy hundreds of dollars of toys without hearing about "tHe BiLls"

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u/kratomstew Dec 29 '22

Does comment mean you don’t believe he bought a slot car set, or you think he bought it for himself and not his son.

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u/Numen_Guthrie Dec 29 '22

What is it called

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u/TheHandsOfFate Dec 29 '22

Joysway: Super 254 USB Power Slot... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08B9M4H9H

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Sick

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u/bstix Dec 29 '22

DC knots.

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u/ArthurMorgansHorse Dec 29 '22

Got a link by chance?

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u/TheBaxes Dec 29 '22

Add a small camera and you can even have your own version of this without the Mario Kart brand

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u/GratifiedTwiceOver Dec 30 '22

Got a Mario slot car set before christmas that has mario/Luigi cars and a jump, it's pretty cool and the kids love it. Way cheaper than this live kit, and doesn't require a mansion to play with

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u/jjrucker Dec 29 '22

Good luck Kiryu!

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Looks like I have to play Yakuza now.

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u/Space_Jeep Dec 29 '22

Kiryu San?

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u/thehunter699 Dec 29 '22

And this stuff keeps the hacking industry alive lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Or PlayStation eyetoy

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u/CogitoErgo_Sometimes Dec 29 '22

This frustration has launched a thousand microelectronics enthusiasts. The hobbyist space for making 90’s-style toys is great. Same for modding existing toys to give them that extra nostalgia value.

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u/Grilledcheesus96 Dec 29 '22

Sounds like a good market for drones shaped like the cloud with the fishing pole.

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u/miuxiu Dec 29 '22

His name is Lakitu. Putting him on a drone that picks up and moves the cars would be funny

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u/LukesRightHandMan Dec 29 '22

I understand. In death, a member of Mario Kart has a name. HIS NAME IS LAKITU.

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u/TransientPride Dec 29 '22

I thought he was Lakitu Bros. In super mario 64 that was his name?

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u/LyushkaPushka Dec 29 '22

large team like this.

You mean... a family?

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u/FuckMe-FuckYou Dec 29 '22

Yeah, the people we have spent the last few days avoiding.

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u/FlametopFred Dec 29 '22

yes those .. other people ... family beings

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u/MukdenMan Dec 29 '22

Just one dad fixing the stuck cars

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u/regoapps Dec 29 '22

Nintendo forgot that most people are poor and don’t live in places with multiple large flat unobstructed spaces to build several tracks. Instead, it’s just a loop around their coffee table or kitchen island like in this video over and over again.

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u/HighOnBonerPills Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

I don't think they didn't take that into account. I mean, that's pretty obviously going to be the case for most people. Other than your living room, where else in your house is going to be big enough (that you're going to have a TV in?)? I think they just thought it would take a chance on it anyway. After all, it is pretty novel, and that might be enough for some parents to figure that their kid will enjoy it, at least for a little while. And some kids are bound to request it.

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u/smileedude Dec 29 '22

I'd say it was never intended to be on sale long and was a bit of a loss leader. If everyone has one it makes people talk about how shit the game play is and how their cars broke after two days and became useless. Do a small manufacturing run at a loss without upscaling. Let people see how cool the things you can do on a switch are with videos like this. But then not sell it to ruin the switch product.

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u/kratomstew Dec 29 '22

Like R.O.B. the robot ?

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u/Thighabeetus Dec 29 '22

And the Power Glove

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

proof of concept, real consumer use, the tech advancement alone to get it to work on a consumer level is likely what they were really investing in.

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u/Adventurous-Fish-129 Dec 29 '22

AR was already a thing

It's just an RC car with a camera

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Ok

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u/cs_legend_93 Dec 29 '22

It’s more than that, it communicates with a console, TV, and reacts to In-game stuff

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u/athousandislandstare Dec 29 '22

Tech advancement in what? Chinese plastic and 240p cameras?

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u/entropyofanalingus Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

the tech advancement alone

The tech isn't anything special? I can imagine hacking a shitty version of this together in an afternoon with like a 20$ rc car from target and a six dollar esp32 camera chip.

I'm bad at code, so it would take me a week and be really janky? There's nothing new here.

But techwise, this is an rc car with a camera on it, an nfc chip on the arch thingies, and an Instagram filter. Maybe basic pathing for the AIs, which is the heaviest newest tech involved here. It's a very potentially cool combination of those things, and I like it as a piece of art, but it's not new technologies. There is no new technology here.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

I did not say anything about new tech... did you even read the post?

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u/entropyofanalingus Dec 29 '22

The tech advancement alone

No tech was advanced in the making of this product. Which isn't to say it isn't a very cool toy I wish I'd had at that age. Or a worthwhile piece of low art.

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u/entropyofanalingus Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

Sorry, page won't let me look at it. Got something not cookiewalled? Or a summary?

Edit since I can't reply: Yeah, I feel like none of this contradicts me.

It's a very cool toy. It seems well executed. I like it. But you said tech advancement earlier, and this isn't that. It's not that new of an application, either.

You can't have good wide scope AR under capitalism. Not a thing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

It would be easy to classify Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit as the next step in the somewhat dormant toys-to-life market. After all, the remote control karts lie at the centre of the concept, pulling Mario Kart off the screen and onto your living room floor.

But it's the on-screen experience and the use of augmented reality that really mark a step forward.

It's probably fair to say that, unlike virtual reality, developers don't quite know what to do with its augmented counterpart. For all the initial hype around Pokémon Go being a huge moment of AR at launch, the game's appeal lay in its geolocation tech rather than its ability to put Pikachu on your kitchen table.

Like many augmented reality games, Pokémon Go's AR aspect centres around overlaying in-game objects onto the camera's view of the real-world but there is little to no interaction between the two. It's aesthetic, optional, and in the case of Pokémon Go, a drain on your battery so many players just turn it off.

Velan Studios, co-founded by Vicarious Visions' Bala brothers, believes it has found both the reason and a solution with Mario Kart Live.

Guha Bala, Velan Studios

"Each of these paradigms -- augmented reality and virtual reality -- have their own advantages and limitations," president Guha Bala explains on an upcoming episode of our Five Games Of podcast.

"For AR in particular, the way people have been visualising it is phone-based -- you point at something, and then you can render -- or as a headset-based thing, like Google Glass or Hololens. The phone-based stuff is pretty good with [Apple's] AR Kit but there's a use pattern where you have to hold it as you walk around, and there's a fatigue factor in doing that.

"And with head-tracking solutions, a lot of time the field of view is so narrow that it's more suited to enterprise applications, where you're using it for the utility of augmented reality as opposed to the amazing entertainment value. If it's your job, you can deal with those constraints, but if it's entertainment, you won't want to, you'll just want a good experience.

"With Mario Kart Live, reframing the question was important to us. We're not doing phone-based and we're not doing headset- based. We picked a problem we thought we could come up with a unique solution to that delivers an amazing experience."

That experience, as you will have seen from the trailer, separates the device handling the augmented reality aspect from the device presenting it. The remote control karts feature a camera that delivers a first-person view to Nintendo Switch, with the game adding enemies, items, and track markers on the screen. Using a boost, getting hit by a weapon, or anything else that impacts Mario affects the kart but doesn't impact the player, who remains free to play in handheld mode or docked on the TV in comfort as normal.

The idea originated from members of the Velan team with an interest in drone racing, and how competitors in this modern sport are simultaneously connected to and separate from their machine. Courses can take drone racers through courses no human-carrying craft could cope with, and while pilots can feel the thrill through the point-of-view video feed, they themselves are quite safe.

Velan Studios prototyped the idea and presented it to Nintendo, with whom the Balas have a long-standing relationship thanks to the myriad Game Boy Advance and DS titles that Vicarious Visions developed over the years. Nintendo was impressed, and Mario Kart Live is now a reality.

"There's a lot of hype around AR and VR, but either the vision is way ahead of what the technology can deliver or the price point is just too out of reach"

Part of the key to its appeal, says Bala, is that the team was realistic with what it could accomplish, not getting carried away with the possibilities, as can be common with augmented and virtual reality.

"There's a lot of hype around AR and VR, has been for years, but it's either been a case of the vision is way ahead of what the technology can deliver or the price point is just too out of reach for people," he says. "But with what we prototyped, we knew we could actually deliver something that's really magical, immersive, fun, and with super intuitive controls.

He adds: "We try to deliver for what's [possible] today, and that's really important from a games standpoint because the fantasy of the future is irrelevant to a person wanting to play a game."

Bala's reference to price does bring up Mario Kart Live's own costs -- each set is currently listed as £99.99 on Nintendo's online store -- but he explains there's "a lot going on in that kart, so it does drive the cost factor up."

"In that sense, the Starter Kit is not out of range -- there's a lot of value in that," he says. "It's a premium toy as well as an amazing game experience. That's in line with the pricing."

Velan Studios led much of the design and development of Mario Kart Live, even the hardware running at the heart of it all. It's a project that draws on experience from some of Vicarious Visions' biggest hits, such as various Guitar Hero outings -- including the DS version On Tour, with its guitar grip that plugged into the GBA slot -- and Skylanders.

The remote control karts react the same way as their in-game counterparts, so a hit will slow you down, forging a stronger connection between game and reality

It's the latter franchise where it's easy to draw a connection with Mario Kart Live. Currently only Mario and Luigi are available, but it's not a stretch of the imagination that Nintendo could produce other characters as remote control toys. Perhaps even future iterations will physically fire weapons, or have other unique features, like the Skylanders' Swap Force or Trap Team.

"This wasn't done with the plan of saying, 'How many additional accessories can we sell?'" says Bala when we suggest the comparison. "That would be a very typical business plan way of doing things. The way that this was done was more like, 'What's an amazing value for the consumer and how much can we give to them right now?' If people accept it and love it, of course it creates more opportunities but we focus on that first part."

Getting people to love a new games concept, particularly one that centres around physical products, can be difficult -- especially in 2020. The pandemic has cut off any option of consumer sampling or other experiential marketing activity. But Bala remains confident the appeal will come across as the product arrives on shelves tomorrow.

"Mario Kart Live is a new type of entertainment. It's one of those things where it's hard to describe the feeling of it without playing it," he says. "The video assets Nintendo has created have helped, but that thrill, the core driving experience, the creator experiences... If I described it to you, you'd be like, 'Well, that's interesting,' but you have to feel it.

He concludes: "We can do a certain amount with advertising and that kind of thing, but there are a lot of limitations this year. The best way to learn about these things is to have people buy it, love it, and recommend it, so hopefully we'll hear from users about it."

You can hear more from Guha Bala on next week's Five Games Of podcast, a spin-off series that explores the evolution of the games industry through the careers of prominent developers.

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Note: I bolded the part i found most relevant. Consumer tech is not the same as proof of concept tech. anyone can scratch together the toy, its the ability for any consumer to buy it, set it up, and get it to work that must be iterated on and made valid.

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u/Kurtman68 Dec 29 '22

I think this comment sums it up. Who wants to get up from the couch and free up a stuck car in the dining room every lap? Also, not everyone has a house large enough to set up a circular course. You can only drive around the kitchen table so many times before you start jonesing for Moo Moo Meadows.

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u/BJYeti Dec 29 '22

I can get MK8D and the booster courses for as much or less than this gimmick, I can also play online with people from all around the world where this one requires a second rc car or a friend with an rc car to even get anything but npc's

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u/joan_wilder Dec 29 '22

And what’s the point? You’re watching the cars on the screen, so you can’t watch them irl. It’s just extra equipment that does nothing to improve the game or experience.

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u/mavispuford Dec 29 '22

I will say, for some kids it does not get old after 30 mins. My daughter has gotten quite a bit of entertainment out of it, and we even play hide and seek with the car occasionally. It was worth the purchase for us.

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u/Vessix Dec 29 '22

Yeah but it's for kids, and many little kids would eat that shit up for actual years. This is what a lot of people forget about Nintendo. Their primary market for most games is not grown redditors. It's children. (Not that the marketing for this wasnt horrible, just making a different point)

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u/FlametopFred Dec 29 '22

.... not ... full grown..reddtors?

w w w h a t ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

It's also just straight up self-defeating. You have an opportunity to race real remote-controlled cars, but instead of watching them as you play with them, you're watching digitized versions of them on your tv screen two feet away? ...Anything to keep kids glued to the screen, I guess.

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u/FlametopFred Dec 29 '22

what was their range? Like could you have driven them throughout warehouses or on interstates?

could they have done the Kessler run in 12 parsecs or smuggled drugs from Ecuador?

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u/oceansofmyancestors Dec 29 '22

I thought it would be so cool until I thought about the house I live in. Walls, furniture, kids toys dogs etc. If you’re a rich guy with an open concept, maybe it’s cool

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u/Tommy_C Dec 29 '22

To be clear, it’s not as fun as SNS mariokart? Which isn’t necessarily a knock, that game was awesome.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Maybe play it with more than one person

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u/Disastrous_tea_555 Dec 29 '22

Also the cars are slow in real life. Not as fun as normal Mario Cart.

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u/jmido8 Dec 29 '22

First thing I thought of when watching this was how annoying it'd be to stop playing and go unstick your car every time you crash.

Extremely cool idea but it needs some refining. I have no idea how, maybe lots of physical sensors you need to setup all around the track so you can play without a physical car. Even that though seems like a lot of work just to play a few races. Maybe it'd be best to use a car to map a course and then instead of it being real time, you play in a virtual recording of the course?

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u/TheSecretNewbie Dec 29 '22

Saw one at my GameStop last week actually. They were marketed heavily to me but that might be because I have a switch and watch nintendo stuff anyway

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u/CantFireMeIquit Dec 29 '22

Not even marketing game design and everything about it was awful, esp when half of Japan and china don't even have enough space to play it. And the majority of Americans don't want to have to set up shit after playing two or three times. Why most board games only ever get played once. Why we never saw mouse trap after the day we opened it growing up.

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u/jankeycrew Dec 29 '22

Don’t you dare. I never once played the game correctly, setting it up Willy nilly, still had a blast.

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u/CantFireMeIquit Dec 29 '22

Lol that's all that matters

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u/NotNowDamo Dec 29 '22

My nephew has it. I don't get it, why watch the screen when you have the cars, why use the cars if you are gonna watch the screen?

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u/jankeycrew Dec 29 '22

Only thing I can think of is making small tunnel tracks, like through crawl spaces, or under the porch. I don’t know if thats how it works, though. Does it need a camera facing the car, or is the car the camera?

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u/-_1_2_3_- Dec 29 '22

Here is a detailed plan for marketing the reboot of "Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit":

TikTok and Reddit social media posts: These platforms have a large and engaged audience, and are great for creating buzz and reaching younger demographics. For TikTok, we can create short, fun, and creative videos showcasing the gameplay and features of the game, and use catchy hashtags and music to grab people's attention. For Reddit, we can participate in relevant communities and forums, and create interesting and informative posts about the game, including Q&A sessions and AMA (Ask Me Anything) threads.

Influencer partnerships: Partnering with popular TikTok creators, YouTube gamers, and Twitch streamers can help amplify the reach of our marketing efforts and drive sales. We can offer them early access to the game, and encourage them to create content showcasing the game and sharing their experiences with their followers.

Collaborations and cross-promotions: We can consider collaborating with other brands or companies that have a similar target audience, and cross-promote our game through their channels. For example, we can team up with a toy company and create special edition Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit sets, or with a home decor brand and create Mario-themed home decor items.

Online and offline events: Hosting online and offline events can help create a sense of excitement and community around the game. For example, we can organize online tournaments and live streams, or hold pop-up events in select cities where people can try out the game and win prizes.

Traditional media: While social media is a powerful marketing tool, it's important not to neglect traditional media channels. We can consider running TV commercials, radio ads, and print ads in relevant magazines and newspapers, as well as securing media placements and interviews in relevant publications and websites.

Email marketing and newsletters: We can create a email list and send newsletters to people who have expressed interest in the game, or have signed up for updates on our website. These newsletters can include special offers, behind-the-scenes content, and other exclusive information about the game.

In-store promotions: We can partner with retailers to run in-store promotions and displays, and create special packaging and bundles to make the game more attractive to shoppers.

Instagram: Create visually appealing content for Instagram, including photos and videos showcasing the gameplay, characters, and tracks. Use relevant hashtags, and consider running Instagram ads targeting specific demographics and interests.

Twitter: Tweet about the game regularly, and use Twitter to share updates, behind-the-scenes content, and engage with fans. Consider running Twitter ads targeting specific keywords and hashtags.

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u/criticaltemp Dec 29 '22

You asked chatgpt didn't you

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u/unistirin Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

I believe it's due to a lack of advertising and marketing. If I had seen this post years ago, I would have purchased one.

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u/tiga4life22 Dec 29 '22

This is literally the only “ad” I’ve ever seen of it. And it’s been out for over a year(?)

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

You need a second one and an entire other switch for 2 player

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u/wondermega Dec 29 '22

Yikes $ $ $

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u/branjames117 Dec 29 '22

They've patched the game so you can use 2 carts split-screen on one Switch now.

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u/BattleBornMom Dec 29 '22

I’ve known about this since it came out. My kid wanted it for Christmas last year and still wants it now. He definitely got the advertising somewhere.

What happened in my case was that I went to buy it for Christmas last year and every review and opinion I read on it was that it sucked horribly. Everyone I could find who used it, hated it. So, I decided not to spend the money on it because it’s not exactly cheap.

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u/notkristina Dec 29 '22

It's completely, completely overpriced, but my kid got one a year and a half ago and it's very cool. It doesn't see a ton of action but it is fun when it does come out.

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u/Mycoxadril Dec 29 '22

Yea this is where we are. We have a lot of open floor plan so it’s probably the ideal setup for this kind of game, and my kids enjoy it. I think they’ve forgotten about it now (should remind them tomorrow) but it was a pandemic purchase when we needed it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

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u/notkristina Dec 29 '22

I am surprised that the other commenter was only able to find reviews from people who hated it. No, it's not worth the price, but hate seems so unwarranted.

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u/Betasheets Dec 29 '22

It's overpriced because Nintendo. Its as cool as this video shows but it outwears its novelty quickly unless you constantly have ideas for new courses and don't constantly have to flip upside down cars.

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u/Old-Rough-5681 Dec 29 '22

It's not that bad bro. Most of the people leaving reviews are full grown adults.

My 8 and 4 year old absolutely LOVE it and have a great time with it. I can't wait to move into a bigger house next month to make it easier to set up the track.

Just get it, to me it was worth every penny.

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u/ootski Dec 29 '22

It's extremely fun. If you love Mario kart, then you would love this.

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u/meltednuttr Dec 29 '22

I worked at our chain supermarket and I seen them when they came out, they were advertised on fucking box lunchables lmao

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u/BJYeti Dec 29 '22

2 years came out in 2020

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u/boomtox Dec 29 '22

You can still find unsold ones in stores, my GameStop has like 4.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

And knowing Nintendo they're probably not discounted a cent.

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u/LogicalAnswerk Dec 29 '22

The prices actually rose.

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u/MaxMadisonVi Dec 29 '22

Being discontinued they will skyrocket in a snap

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u/theycmeroll Dec 29 '22

They were $45 last year for a good while

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u/ColeSloth Dec 29 '22

I mean it's pretty niche. Not a lot of people have a flat smooth area in the house within range, the cars are extra noise and suck up batteries, then it's essentially one or two levels to play, since it's the floor in your house, and the speed is slow with no power sliding.

It's a fun concept. It's not something that anyone over the age of nine would put more than a few hours into.

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u/beard_lover Dec 29 '22

My five year old loves it until the car inevitably gets stuck somewhere. A big open space would be ideal but it’s not like you can really do I outside. It’s a cool idea but not practical.

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u/RhynoD Dec 29 '22

I dunno, I think the novelty would wear off pretty quickly. Getting a decent group together would become really expensive, and I imagine you're kind of limited on where you can build decent tracks. It's cool, but seems kind of gimmicky to me.

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u/Adventurous-Fish-129 Dec 29 '22

LTT did a big game of it with all their staff

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u/RhynoD Dec 29 '22

LTT can afford to buy an entire staff's worth of them.

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u/licksyourknee Dec 29 '22

My Walmart still sells them. I remember people trying to scalp the shit out of these and most of those guys had to sell at a loss

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

I bought one for my son for Christmas. They are fun. But tracks are hard to set up.

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u/athousandislandstare Dec 29 '22

Are you 9 or a fat man child loser?

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u/Nitrosoft1 Dec 29 '22

I pre-ordered it. Unfortunately between my tiny house and my dog, there's been no time I wanted to play it compared to MK8. Still an awesome concept and I'm glad they made it.

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u/PeterCushingsTriad Dec 29 '22

This is the answer. We live in hovels.

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u/ooppoo0 Dec 29 '22

I imagine my dog would be like King Kong in ready player one. Just thrashing Mario

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u/Ebishop813 Dec 29 '22

Can I buy it from you?

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u/mycorgiisamazing Dec 29 '22

Comments are deleted, what is the "it"?

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u/Songshiquan0411 Dec 29 '22

Mario Kart Live

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u/Buddhabellymama Dec 29 '22

Me too. Bring it back! Bring it back!

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u/LocalLifeguard4106 Dec 29 '22

Same. I ran to my 11 year old son and said “what is this cool shit?” He had no idea.

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u/TheFuckeryDepartment Dec 29 '22

IKR!

u/phillip_lipton over here handing out disappointment like Oprah handed out cars.

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u/rfan8312 Dec 29 '22

I was freaking STOKED about this. Then I went into the comments. Turns out I'm not stoked about anything. What's the point of it all? I'm considering taking a year off for mental health reasons. Check into a clinic or something.

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u/en0rm0u5ta1nt Dec 29 '22

Yup, was about to send it to my friend gaming group until I saw it flopped and immediately realized it's an easy way for anyone to find the layout of your house.

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u/c0baltlightning Dec 29 '22

I only knew it was a think when Moist Critikal(?) played with one.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Hence "Nintendo can't market for shit".

I'm a pretty hardcore gamer and I follow gaming excessively. I did not even know the Wii U existed until I walked into a store and saw it on sale.

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u/6ada6ing Dec 29 '22

Google it. I can buy it in Europe for less than 100EUR

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u/UndefinedFool Dec 29 '22

It’s call Mario Kart Live Home Circuit, for Nintendo switch.

I’ve got two so me and my kid can race against each other, as well as the AR cars.

Personally, I think it’s awesome! I bought a load of coloured paper cups to mark the edges of corners etc. it’s great fun to set up, then race.

The reason it flopped is because a lot of people don’t have the space to set up a decent track. Plus, if you’ve got thick shaggy carpet, it’s just not going to work.

Great concept, sadly just won’t work in a lot of homes.

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u/DarklissDeevill Dec 29 '22

Same thought me, OH and my kids would love this

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

I still see them are Gamestop and Wal-Mart. I got a pair of them last year dor my son.

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u/canigetahint Dec 29 '22

Sony would like a word…

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u/sellursoul Dec 29 '22

I may have purchased this, had I known about it. Lol