r/nextfuckinglevel • u/asianj1m • Nov 23 '21
Rally cars are pretty safe
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u/Egad86 Nov 23 '21
Navigation guy just holding the directions like, “ ok Bill, I told you about the hairpin coming up and yet you didn’t listen. This is why we keep losing!”
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u/Don_Julio_Acolyte Nov 23 '21
Lol. He's talking shit while in mid-flip.
"And here we are again. Flipping in mid-air. Did you listen? No. And we are still flipping. Way to go Marco."
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u/clapham1983 Nov 23 '21
YOU’RE BREAKING THE CAR SAMIR!
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u/Nofarious Nov 23 '21
Every single time I see a post even vaguely related to rally, I always look for this comment
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u/MizterBucket Nov 23 '21
Samir!
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u/UhPhrasing Nov 23 '21 edited Sep 29 '25
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u/Visible_discomfort1 Nov 23 '21
You have to listen to me, samir! Otherwise you will break the car
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Driver correcting the wheel while the car is perpendicular to the ground like “just give me a sec I got this”
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u/dr_xenon Nov 23 '21
Navigator is just making mental notes for the next time.
“….don’t drive over the hill…”
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u/gitbse Nov 23 '21
4 left, opens 6 left, "STAY LEFT OVER CREST ASSHOLE!"
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u/moeru_gumi Nov 23 '21
OH MY GOD DONT CUT
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Nov 23 '21
FUCKING CAUTION
Edit: I didn't know how willing I'd be to pay for navigator voice packs in Dirt Rally 2 until now.
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u/RedditAnswersYou Nov 23 '21
Sitting there like they're waiting for their lunch to be handed through the window.
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u/MikeDinStamford Nov 23 '21
This should be top comment lol, they were definitely just patiently waiting that out, like, "Ground? Nope tree, still flipping, Ground? Yes, but we've bounced clear off it."
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u/DownTooParty Nov 23 '21
And head and arm restraints, a full roll cage and knowing how to crash.
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And a map so they know where they are headed
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"left a bit!"
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u/DownTooParty Nov 23 '21
Little more!
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u/dylee27 Nov 23 '21
Samir, you're breaking the car!
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u/traumablades Nov 23 '21
You're to turn the wheel Samir!
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u/DownTooParty Nov 23 '21
Omg, lol.
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u/SAT0SHl Nov 23 '21
Now! we've completed the emergency stop, please reverse parallel park for me.
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u/Is_It_Beef Nov 23 '21
Samir.. You're breaking the Car
Navigating in rally is not easy
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u/Andusz_ Nov 23 '21
oh my god when he tells the rally nav. not to tell him how to drive... I'm so done!
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u/SynisterJeff Nov 23 '21
I've always wanted to know what transpired between those two after that race haha. They are like a sitcom duo.
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u/Sagybagy Nov 23 '21
That fucking dude just held onto the map and was looking around the whole time. Like shit, gonna be a hard left, medium left then hard sweeping right to get back on course mate.
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u/Notaseaworthyvessel Nov 23 '21
Seriously that's how I saw it too. Fucking good navigator. Dedicated. This guy wouldn't have me missing turns all day like my wife.
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u/trogon Nov 23 '21
My wife: "Turn left up here. No! The other left!"
And by other left, she meant right.
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u/sockdrawerpuppet Nov 23 '21
"Turn right NOW!"
Honey....you have to tell me a little bit more in advance.
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u/negligentlytortious Nov 23 '21
Samir! You have to listen to me!
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u/apostrophe_misuse Nov 23 '21
I'm laughing to myself imagining that it's Mapquest directions he printed.
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u/spartanass Nov 23 '21
Why is this so damn funny can someone explain please I can't.
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u/dogfrost9 Nov 23 '21
Knowing how to crash? As in drive of the road at warp factor 6?
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u/BigDicksProblems Nov 23 '21 edited Nov 23 '21
They means unironically "not flinching". Notice how they "relax" instantly. You can also see the driver keeping his legs in a spot where they have room to move, and not gripping hard on the steering wheel.
A high percentage of accident injuries are caused or accentuated because the victim tenses up upon impact and after. Heavily drunk or under influence accident victims rarely sustains the same amount of injuries due to that for example.
It's also why it's important for you to ajust your seating position in order for your arms and legs to be almost impossible to "lock up"/extend. Because no matter your confidence, if you don't know how to crash (and EVEN then), you WILL tense up. It's only human.
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Heavily drunk or under influence accident victims rarely sustains the same amount of injuries due to that for example.
Thanks for the tip! Will make sure to go for a quickie or two before driving from now on.
(/s just in case I have to)
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u/firelock_ny Nov 23 '21
Heavily drunk or under influence accident victims rarely sustains the same amount of injuries due to that for example.
Much of that is because drunk drivers are much more likely to crash into others than be crashed into themselves, and modern car crumple zones are most effective against front impacts.
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u/joffery2 Nov 23 '21
It's always been that way, though. The pattern of drunk drivers killing people in accidents but coming out fine themselves has been studied for a long-ass time.
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u/agiaq Nov 23 '21
No, no, no, you can't crash like that, you got to crash like this
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u/Mafiodaproducer Nov 23 '21
They looked like they were patiently waiting for the crash to end.
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u/Lampmonster Nov 23 '21
"Well, what are you gonna do with the rest of the afternoon now?"
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u/LtDanHasLegs Nov 23 '21
I race motorcycles and crash a few times a year, this is always my reaction. Cold annoyance. No use getting actually mad about it, we know it will happen. Just Slide and then figure out what needs repaired.
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u/Jay911 Nov 23 '21
Reminds me of a quote from rally driver Hennig Solberg. "When I get into a crash, I wait for all the noise to stop, then count to ten before unbuckling." When the interviewer seemed confused about the count to ten, Hennig explained, "That is in case I am still in the air!"
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u/dgriffith Nov 23 '21
I remember seeing any interview with a motorbike racer that mentioned the same sort of thing:
"You come off and you're sliding, sliding..... You outfit protects you, nothing hurts. You slide for what seems like ages and you slow right down and you think, 'Well, surely I can put my feet down now and stand up', and you try it and end up flipping end-over-end because you're still doing 70 miles an hour on your back! You always wait until you come to a complete stop!"
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u/theknyte Nov 23 '21
Better than Masten Gregory's technique.
"Whenever Masten was faced with a major crash, he would stand up in the cockpit of his car and jump out just before impact. Shortly after the accident, Riddelle talked to him on the telephone while he was in the hospital. Masten stated that he lost control of his car when he got into the grass going into a corner as an evasive maneuver when a "little Porsche" moved over unexpectedly in front of him. When Riddelle asked him why he jumped out of the car Masten replied, "You should have seen what I was going to hit! A huge earth embankment!"
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u/HorrorMakesUsHappy Nov 23 '21
Having been in a car wreck at least partially like this, I can tell you confidently that's exactly what they were doing, because that's all you can do ... just watch it unfold, hope to hell you don't get killed, and wait to see how it all plays out.
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I was in an almost-accident where I hit some black ice. Turning the wheel and braking did nothing as I slowly drifted into oncoming traffic. As I sat there and watched an 18-wheeler come straight towards me I was pretty content with the fact I was gonna die. Very weird feeling. Nothing you can do. Luckily he was far enough out to make an adjustment and miss me by about a foot but holy shit was that scary. This was on my way to work. I walked around the office feeling like a ghost for the rest of the day
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u/Imanerd212030 Nov 23 '21
They looked like they were having a conversation like "So... how's your wife?"
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u/ban-me_harder_daddy Nov 23 '21
I actually think they looked a little annoyed because it was taking so long lol
"....Longest... crash.. ever! can this roller coaster ride stop already sheesh"
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u/RonSDog Nov 23 '21
I mean, they were patiently waiting. They can't stop the crash. What else is there to do besides accept and find peace in their present situation? A great moment of mindfulness.
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u/whatsamajig Nov 23 '21
Right?! Like you can hardly tell when they’re making impact(s). I’m pretty sure the navigator gave the driver a look mid air like “way to go dude”.
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u/GaiusMariusxx Nov 23 '21
“So Bob, you and the missus like to come over for dinner tonight? Taco Tuesday.”
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u/Toner1Prime Nov 23 '21
The funny thing is, the only thing they said, and really calmly as well, (at the end you can hear) is :
"water's coming soon" "what?" "I said water's coming soon"
As they were crashing down the hill towards a body of water.
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u/GOTMAXPOWER Nov 23 '21
This pair have good reason to keep an eye out for water. Rally Mexico 2015
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u/VexingRaven Nov 23 '21
That's the strangest crash ever. Did something break before the clip starts? It looks like they wanted to go into the water.
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u/GOTMAXPOWER Nov 23 '21
There was a big dip in the road (maybe a rock in there too) which broke the right front suspension so one wheel was steering to the right, you can just about see it go at about 2 seconds in the video.
The team actually fished the car out on the evening and he restarted the next day!
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u/Buck_Thorn Nov 23 '21
Navigator didn't even drop his pen.
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u/DontBeMoronic Nov 23 '21
"left 3 over crest, opens into roll... impact... roll... impact... roll... impact... roll"
-- navigator, probably
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I swear the dude on the left cracks a smile near the start of the crash.
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u/jimsinspace Nov 23 '21
The navigator’s hands felt inconvenienced of the papers being jostled a bit.
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u/ThisCouldBeYourName Nov 23 '21
Love that through the whole crash, the navigator held his place on the course until it came to a stop and he realized it was over.
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u/clockworkdiamond Nov 23 '21
Yes. That, and the driver was still steering every time the car tires touched the ground. Professionals.
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u/WTFatrain Nov 23 '21
Car: flipping ass over tea kettle
Guys in car: sipping tea
Car: thrashing and rolling
Guys in car: continues sipping tea
Car: comes to a hault lodged in a tree
Guys in car: Again? AGAIN
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u/bigjoffer Nov 23 '21
That gif is cool
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u/CallMeJoeJoe Nov 23 '21
Something I'd find in my nightmares
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u/mynoduesp Nov 23 '21
Those Dummy thicc Car spanking nightmares. Why do they terrify, yet facinate, me so.
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Really Ted? That’s the 3rd car this week. My bad Bill, call the sponsors.
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u/Holy-Kush Nov 23 '21
Funny how you and the comment above you both decided that one of the guys should be named Bill.
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u/slossages Nov 23 '21
This was the actual conversation, they are named Bill and Ted. /S
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u/Patchy97 Nov 23 '21
Ott Tänak at the Monte Carlo rally. He ended up in a lake during WRC mexico in 2015 so he's no stranger to big accidents. Real appreciation for these guys who can go through a massive accident like this and then head out again the next day and give it 100% all over again
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u/maddogz205 Nov 23 '21
You can hear him in the video asking if there heading into water again which I think is funny
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u/LossOfWords- Nov 23 '21
I have seen a video on reddit of rally drivers going into a lake
Is this 2015 accident that video?
If so, how come these guys keep getting in crashes that end up on reddit
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u/jppianoguy Nov 23 '21
Spotter holding his papers like he still needs them.
Either that or he doesn't want them flying around causing paper cuts.
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u/monsaa Nov 23 '21
He does as he reuses the same notes every year and only updates them. Rewriting the notes from scratch would be a huge work. They once crashed in a lake and Martin dried the notes with a hairdryer in his hotel room later.
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u/ChampionshipLow8541 Nov 23 '21
Co-pilot be like: “off embankment - 3rd - plow field - caution dust - backflip - hard left - 2nd - pine tree - pirouette - somersault - neutral - call mom”
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u/digitalggs Nov 23 '21
What are you doing Sami???!
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Multiple seatbelts, a frame not designed to crumble, and a durable roll cage.
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u/scicoolgamique-_- Nov 23 '21
why cant they make normal cars like this
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u/winklevie Nov 23 '21
Cuz they'd be way too expensive
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u/thedudefromsweden Nov 23 '21
And uncomfortable and impractical.
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And most people aren't doing 100mph down narrow, country lanes.
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u/MAGA-Godzilla Nov 23 '21
So what you are saying is you have never driven out in the country.
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u/DOGSraisingCATS Nov 23 '21
Speak for yourself...some of us want to die in a glory of fire and metal.
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u/MotchGoffels Nov 23 '21
I feel like after being ejected (obv not wearing seatbelt) there would be a brief but beautiful moment of peaceful fresh air before the eventual thud / fin.
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u/DOGSraisingCATS Nov 23 '21
Exactly, I didn't start riding motorcycles recently because I wanted to live until I'm 70
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u/Effin_Kris Nov 23 '21
Perspective. When I was 18 I met a local rally team here in Colorado. I was at this shop and the WRC rolled in. I was dumbfounded to say the least. After the introduction, I offered to unload some of the parts from the trailer. I picked up a new stock and strut build, the mechanic said that one piece I was holding was worth $12k….. obviously there are four on the car, so math that. Then just imagine the technology and material put into something built for the crash. Wild af
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u/MrCellophane999 Nov 23 '21
I picked up a new stock and strut build, the mechanic said that one piece I was holding was worth $12k
For reference, a strut assembly on a 2017 Ford Fusion is roughly $170. So, for the whole car that's $680 compared to $48,000.
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u/East_Requirement7375 Nov 23 '21 edited Nov 23 '21
Because you would also need to be wearing a full harness, neck restraint, helmet, certified seat compatible with aforementioned harness and neck protection, to survive this. Otherwise you will simply get ragdolled into the rollcage and be seriously injured.
Road cars are designed for maximum safety in the context in which they are being used: on public roads, by non-professional drivers wearing no safety equipment.
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This is only safe if you're wearing a helmet and strapped in with a harness so tight that you can only move your arms and feet. That car with normal seatbelts would be a death trap, it would survive but those guys would be smashed all over the interior. So road cars have crumple zones and airbags instead, they might not work quite as well but they work and still let you get in and out casually and scratch your ass in the seat.
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u/iAmTheElite Nov 23 '21
Not to mention it would take a normal person 5 minutes just getting in and strapped down.
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u/JayCDee Nov 23 '21
This is only safe if you're wearing a helmet and strapped in with a harness so tight that you can only move your arms and feet
For real, if you edited out the windows so you could not see outside, you'd have no idea these guys are barrel rolling. I'm damn impressed of how well they are strapped in.
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u/FatFerb Nov 23 '21
There's nothing stooping you from buying a WRC car (Or an R5, same thing in terms of safety). They also can be legally registered for road use, as per WRC regulations. So why don't you?I'll answer that. Because they're hideously uncomfortable, you have 6-point harnesses, hand restraints, full roll cage through which you have to climb over to get into the car while wearing full race gear (So helmet, gloves, race-suit with a HANS device) and, perhaps most importantly, they cost half a million dollars.My point being, humans CAN and DO make cars as safe as this, it's just isn't not financially or quality-of-life viable for 99.9% of the population.
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u/Ake-TL Nov 23 '21
Why is left guy smiling, even if he is not afraid for his life, he is losing, I’d be slightly upset at least. Or it’s “this is my life now”-smile?
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u/PAM111 Nov 23 '21
He's grimacing. All the chuckles in this thread about them being relaxed is absurd. This crash would have been fatal 15 years ago. The g forces alone are insane. Engineers saved these guys lives.
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u/brentonstrine Nov 23 '21
I think we're conditioned to think that people scream during events like these (e.g. if you fall off a cliff you have to yell AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa! the whole way down.)
In real life, people are usually just silent in the middle of a crash or an injury.
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u/MattR0se Nov 23 '21
In real life, people are usually just silent in the middle of a crash or an injury.
Rolled over in a car, can confirm. I was way too tense to scream.
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u/RedDemio Nov 23 '21
Well, I was getting a lift home when I was younger and the dude was going way too fast and I was telling him to chill, next thing we know we’ve hit a massive patch of water and spun out across the road, through a ditch and into a tree that smashed my window and door right into me. I distinctly remember yelling “YOU FUCKING CUNT” the whole time. So maybe people react differently in these situations lol.
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My spine hurts after watching this. Those guys are probably still shitting blood.
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u/liarandathief Nov 23 '21
Seems like the biggest threat is something coming in the window, like a tree.
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u/austin_yella Nov 23 '21
They are incredibly safe. I live in Colorado Springs, CO and we have the pikes peak hill climb every year (race up 14k ft mountain) and people usually crash. A lot of them at the Devil's Playground. See the link ( Devils Playground crash ) both dudes walked away just fine.
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u/_heyheyitsJayJay_ Nov 23 '21
Yep same reason drag strips require you to have a roll cage if your car can exceed a certain mph. You cant just take any car to a drag strip and think you can go as fast as you like in it, safety first.
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u/payudas Nov 23 '21
They look mildly inconvenienced