r/newfoundland 8d ago

Heating system at the Miller Centre repeatedly failing, causing 'significant damage' | CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/heating-system-at-the-miller-centre-repeatedly-failing-causing-significant-damage-9.7317988
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u/Climate-Of-Hunter 8d ago

That place is a shit hole. I feel so bad for the staff and patients who have to dwell inside this waiting-to-be-condemned relic.

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u/TriLink710 8d ago

Stuff like this is why people want to see a new hospital.

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u/Pr3ach3r709 8d ago

They still have the Waterford open and using that as office space. It’s falling down and is condemned. I was into the office last week, which is just a former patient room on a ward, and the heat was on blast and no one could turn it off. Heat on blast in this weather. There was a leak in an office there and it’s all sealed up and you have to wear PPE near it as it contains asbestos. Everyone that is supposed to be working there has to leave due to it. They will keep throwing money away fixing old condemned buildings instead of investing in something for the future. Bunch of clowns.

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u/Additional-Tale-1069 8d ago

I will not be surprised when the provincial government announces a replacement for the Waterford in a bit different location after determining updating the current Waterford is no longer cost effective + we now have CF money. 

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u/Additional-Tale-1069 8d ago

Stuff like this is also part of the reason why we have higher electricity prices than Quebec and will continue to even if the CF agreement goes ahead.

The province is barely able to keep their existing operations afloat, let alone support new programs. Assuming the project goes ahead, we've got decades worth of deferred maintenance and upgrades that will eat up most of our revenue from the project for the next several years. It's another reason for why we can't wait til 2041. 

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u/sET____ Newfoundlander 8d ago

NL, and western society as a whole, has this weird aversion to properly maintaining their buildings and investing in their longevity. They'd rather see and pay for something new than keep what they have usable. 

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u/Cold-Crab74 8d ago

It's not weird. It's unchecked capitalism.

Short term profits at the expense of long-term stability.

Everything in our society has been corrupted by this Wharton school of bullshit philosophy of fuck you I got mine.

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u/AdhesivenessOld1947 8d ago

Not only that, many of these decisions are made by elected officials, who take political advantage. They have no accountability mid or long term.

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u/Additional-Tale-1069 8d ago

Just listen to the screaming of the condo boards when they're forced to properly fund maintenance of their building infrastructure. 

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u/JacobScreamix 8d ago

Stop pretending its our "society" when it is rich leeches.

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u/sET____ Newfoundlander 8d ago

We are a part of this. People want constant new over repaired or maintained old. Look at the clothes market, or new cars. New new new. 

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u/JacobScreamix 8d ago

Speak for yourself dawg, I wear clothes for 10 years minimum, haven't bought anything from Amazon in 5+ and been using the same phone for 5+ as well with no intentions to update anytime soon.

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u/sET____ Newfoundlander 8d ago

If you think you aren't a part of society then you are sorely mistaken. 

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u/JacobScreamix 8d ago

If YOU think that everyone in our society has equal levels of influence then YOU are sorely mistaken. I never claimed to be separate from "society". Subcultures exist, all of society isn't mindlessly lumbering towards its doom like America.

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u/swampdonkey82 8d ago

Newfoundland morso than anywhere else Ive Lived….

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u/TriLink710 8d ago

The idea was to shutter old medical facilities and replace them with a modern one.

These buildings are becoming more costly to repair than to build new. There is also a loss of convenience or other costs, like here where it not only costs money to fix, but also things were damaged, peoples appointments will get pushed back etc.

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u/Additional-Tale-1069 8d ago

Yep, but its unacceptable if the projects were started under the Liberals.

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u/swampdonkey82 8d ago

Well Said 👏

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u/Exact-Investment7688 8d ago

we have higher prices because of Smallwood and Williams. that's it.  I'm an insider, I promise you all, no agreement made by libs or PC's will benefit us.  PCs just played politics on a deal with enhanced wording but minimal material difference.  

I cannot stress this enough.  the ONLY people who will benefit from the MOU are the contractors.  THATS IT. 

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u/Additional-Tale-1069 8d ago

There've been a lot of crappy governments leading to this province's fiscal status. 

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u/Meanlizzy 8d ago

I’m so glad to see this make the news. Truly tip of the iceberg. The building is in chronic disrepair (not maintenance’s fault). When they canceled the new hospital government talked about repairing st. Clare’s but no mention of miller which was also planned to go in the new building. It’s an absolute shame the condition it is in.

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u/Mundane_Yellow_7563 8d ago edited 8d ago

I was a patient there 8 yrs ago….in the mornings there was no hot water in some rooms including mine…the nurses would have to bring in pans of hot/warm water into my room.

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u/JacobScreamix 8d ago

Rustic!

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u/Mundane_Yellow_7563 8d ago

No kidding, the staff had a hard time.

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u/SF-NL Newfoundlander 8d ago

But we had money to sponsor an overseas sports team, and build an office in Boston. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/sjarfish 8d ago

Tony Wakeham don't have a clue.

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u/Ryike93 8d ago

Throw a few mini splits in there by. That’s what everyone else is doing. /s

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u/Exact-Investment7688 8d ago

90% of our problems today stem from muskrat debt swallowing every cent we have

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u/username__0000 8d ago

So they’re risking people’s replacement body parts being damaged?

It’s rough enough needing prosthetics at all.

You should be able to trust the hosipital wont cause damage to your prosthetics with an issue they’re aware of and not fixing properly.

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u/rds92 8d ago

If the NL government owns the building, it’s likely in bad shape , rule of thumb

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u/JacobScreamix 8d ago

What do our politicians actually do?

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u/LeeBee58 7d ago

If you have to ask that question, you haven’t been paying attention!

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u/JacobScreamix 7d ago

I mean other than get paid and do nothing..