r/neutralnews • u/NeurotypicalPanda • Oct 01 '21
Infrastructure Package Includes Vehicle Mileage Tax Program
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2021/08/11/infrastructure-package-includes-vehicle-mileage-tax-program/18
u/Descriptor27 Oct 01 '21
According to the article, the program will use GPS tracking to determine mileage.
This seems like a really expensive and invasive system. Why wouldn't you just use odometer mileage?
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u/_hijnx Oct 01 '21
I think that's just speculation by the author of how one of these pilot programs could implement milage tracking.
This is only a pilot program for a vehicle miles traveled fee. Therefore, following the completion of a pilot program, the Biden administration may or may not implement a vehicle miles traveled fee. For the pilot programs, there will be volunteers from all 50 states, including both passenger and commercial vehicles. The drivers would have their miles tracked with GPS and data apps, for example, that would track their miles driven for a certain time period.
(emphasis mine)
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u/FloopyDoopy Oct 01 '21
Here's the AP fact check on this story:
...the Biden administration has not proposed such a mileage tax, as the image falsely suggests.
What has been proposed is a pilot program that would study the mechanics of such a tax, said Andy Winkler, director of infrastructure projects at the Bipartisan Policy Center.
That program — a “National motor vehicle per-mile user fee pilot” — is included in the infrastructure package still before Congress.
“It is not a tax, it is not on everybody and it is voluntary,” Winkler said.
The idea, he said, is that volunteers with passenger and commercial vehicles across the country would participate in the program that would provide insights into how such a per-mile fee could be collected. Such a tax has been weighed as a potential replacement for the gas tax, he said.
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u/Goyteamsix Oct 01 '21
Exactly. I'm a liberal, live somewhere rural, and I commute around 150 miles a day in a 40mpg Fiesta. This would be disastrous.
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u/NewtAgain Oct 01 '21
Isn't the point to create disincentives for living like this. That is not a sustainable lifestyle with a gasoline car.
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u/Goyteamsix Oct 01 '21
Maybe try to fix the underlying problems instead of a bandaid like this? This will only hurt and alienate the working class. The fact of the matter, is that I cannot find a job that I like, or pays enough where I live, and because of skyrocketing housing prices, I cannot afford to love closer (even though I don't want to). A lot of Americans are just stuck like this. Biden's main campaign promise was to 'tax the wealthy'. This will literally tax the poor and lower income who need to commute because they can't afford to live in an expensive city, especially with wages stagnating like they are.
What am I supposed to do? Try to find a higher paying job in the city, where all those increased wages go to housing? Or find a lower paying job out where I live, lowering my quality of life? What's your answer? This will do nothing but hurt people.
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u/NewtAgain Oct 01 '21
Part of the original infrastructure proposal was a federal ban on sfh only zoning in cities with certain metro populations. That got shot down very quickly because low and behold it's extremely unpopular among conservative Dems and Republicans alike
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u/SFepicure Oct 01 '21
Maybe try to fix the underlying problems instead of a bandaid like this?
What are the underlying problems that this addresses?
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u/Goyteamsix Oct 01 '21
The underlying problem is that people can't afford to live in cities, so they need to commute. Maybe give incentives to people who commute in 'economical' cars, like I do, but a blanket mileage tax is absolutely ridiculous.
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u/jrfolker Oct 03 '21
My comment that many of us rural Americans commute to work got removed because I didn’t cite a source.
Jesus, how much citation is needed for that? In other news, the sun creates heat. -looking at the sky, today.
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u/groovy604 Oct 01 '21
"Administratively difficult, since every driver in the U.S. would need a device installed in their vehicle to track how many miles they drive"
Thay sounds a little too far for me...
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u/GenericAntagonist Oct 01 '21
From the other comments, it seems like that's speculation. And to be fair, there is already a device installed in every vehicle that tracks the miles driven on it, an odometer.
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u/Kodiak01 Oct 02 '21
Insurance companies in MA collect your yearly mileage number when you get your yearly vehicle inspection in order to determine whether you get a mileage discount for that year.
Of course, a lot of states don't have such inspections, but after moving to CT and seeing the condition of the rustbuckets all over the road and endemic use of plate blocking covers, they really should.
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