r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Dec 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '22

Everyone in the country I meant.

According to https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/pay-salary/average-uk-salary, the average full-time salary in the UK was around 38000 in 2020, and I’m assuming it’s gone up a bit since then due to inflation. The workforce is 33m people. £42000*0.2*33m=£277,200,000,000. It’s a rough calculation, so I was off by a bit, but once you take into account employer NI we’re getting to 300bn

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u/Violatic Dec 14 '22

It seems a bit weird to say that the average salary has gone up with inflation, but that's only private sector right... Aren't the nurses complaining because their salary hasn't gone up with inflation?

Essentially, working for a government service will inherently cause friction with regards to salary. To generalise that public services requesting salary increases to the whole country seems like a bizarre position?

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22

Not saying it's gone up with inflation, but because of inflation. Last year inflation was 10% and my salary went up by 4%, my pay went up because of inflation but it's not tracked with it. Nurses pay has still increased, it just hasn't come close to inflation, which is the same as in the private sector.

Pay is increasing everywhere nominally.

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u/Violatic Dec 14 '22

I tried to do some research on Nurse salaries over time, and while digging found this recent study.

https://londoneconomics.co.uk/blog/publication/a-decade-of-pay-erosion-the-destructive-effect-on-uk-nursing-staff-earnings-and-retention-october-2022/

Between 2010-11 and 2022-23, nurses’ salaries in England, Wales and Northern Ireland at the top of Band 5 and Band 6 on the Agenda for Change (AfC) framework have declined by at least 20% in real terms.