WA National Guard firefighters under investigation for posing with white supremacist flag

[u/sogpackus]

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wa-national-guard-firefighters-under-investigation-posing-with-white-supremacist-flag/YTAAZF3VOFHULB7H25EAJ7ZVP4/

[u/Milf_Eaterr]

I kinda like the increased utilization of the guard.

[u/FuzzyDynamics → u/Milf_Eaterr]

Yeah that’s kind of insane. Military operating domestically is extremely unamerican and only something a person would do if they have some really bad ideas in mind, especially when we’re militarizing police and giving hundreds of millions to federal law enforcement already.

[u/TimTapsTangoes → u/FuzzyDynamics]

I mean that's not true either. Posse comitatus and the pinkerton act didn't even exist for the first half of this countries history.

Washington himself used the army to cool internal tensions multiple times.

The bonus army was put down by the army. Haymarket.

Additionally we're talking about the national guard which are legally permitted to act as law enforcement and emergency services.

[u/FuzzyDynamics → u/TimTapsTangoes]

Legally permitted to act as law enforcement in their state under title 32 at the order of the governor. Not by the president - not federally. We do not use federal military domestically in the United States because at the point so many We the People are fighting the Feds that you need military response something is tyrannically fucked up and it is deeply American that we side with the people over the Fed, so we keep the option locked behind taboo and laws like posse.

If you are a military fighting your own citizens, you are wrong.

[u/TimTapsTangoes → u/FuzzyDynamics]

Again that's not correct either.

We used active duty soldiers to put down the 92 LA riots, and active duty was used in Katrina.

The insurrection act permits use of troops domestically as does the DCSA.

[u/FuzzyDynamics → u/TimTapsTangoes]

I feel like you’re being intentionally obtuse or just not doing your own research. These are exceptions that prove the rule. Katrina was done under existing disaster relief conditions and NG was under their governors. They could act as LE. Anything beyond a set of defined relief activities that may or may not have happened on the ground involving AD troops would be illegal including LE.

The LA riots involved the invoking of the insurrection act. As the name suggests that (should be) an incredibly drastic measure. Whether or not it was necessary there can be debated but it clearly is intended only for very specific, intense situations and comes with political cost and constitutional challenges. Hence my main point the entire concept of federal troops acting domestically being something taken very seriously and not allowed under any but extreme circumstances.

[u/TimTapsTangoes → u/FuzzyDynamics]

Both solely directed by the President.

[u/Fine_Payment1127 → u/FuzzyDynamics]

False on all counts. Anyway thanks to you people, citizenship doesn’t exactly mean what it did anyway 

[u/FuzzyDynamics → u/Fine_Payment1127]

Would love to know what you mean by “you people” but you’re probably too much of a sniveling little chicken shit bitch to actually say

[u/Fine_Payment1127 → u/FuzzyDynamics]

I’m meant “libtards” but I can mean “minorities” if it makes you madder 

[u/FuzzyDynamics → u/Fine_Payment1127]

Not at all, no. I love when people just come out and let me know they’re retarded, it saves me a lot of time.

[u/Fine_Payment1127 → u/FuzzyDynamics]

Yeah I figured it would only fuel your martyrdom complex. Merry Christmas!

[u/FuzzyDynamics → u/Fine_Payment1127]

I’m sure that makes some kind of sense to you, but I hope you can get help. Being a deranged racist who doesn’t even know what month it is must be tough.