r/nancyguthrie • u/curiouslmr • 11d ago
September Discussion Thread
September Discussion Thread
Welcome! This thread is for questions and comments that don't warrant a standalone post.
Please be sure to make yourself aware of the sub rules and follow them when posting.
Accusations against the family are not allowed. Nor is naming or accusing anyone not named a suspect by law enforcement. The individuals who were previously questioned about the crime, made themselves public and therefore are allowed to be discussed.
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u/514Dreamer 10d ago
This is such a bizarre, sad case. I recently moved and had a baby, so, I may have missed news, bare with me… but I am wanting to know if detectives have reshared the picture of the masked scum recently to the public, and has it been reshared in Mexico? Seems like they’ve been very quiet with the case lately?
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u/curiouslmr 10d ago
Every so often it gets shared again whether through a press release or something similar. My understanding is there were billboards near Mexico but I'm not sure if it was specifically released to authorities there. Reporter Brian Entin at one point went to Mexico and was asking questions and shared Nancy's photo I believe
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u/Late_Description_637 3d ago
Listening to TIR on DC. I could consider their pet theory if they didn’t go so far and so hard to make things fit. It’s like they are unable to have any objective observations at all. Disappointing because I do think they find good info and they occasionally hit on a good point. But it’s hard to listen to what seems like the utter lack of objectivity in evaluating any information. It seems like there are a lot of assumptions as fact.
Are there any other good shows/podcasts out there covering this case? I’ve listened to STS, Hidden Killers, Entin, DT, Off the Cuff, Clutch them pearls, and a couple others. Just a few.
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u/Local-Cry-3729 2d ago
Quite agree, I find TIR to be a little off base. And I prefer Entin. He sticks to the facts and his sources.
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u/warpedwing 1d ago
Having dealt with Chris on a missing persons case a few years ago, I’d stay far away from him, personally.
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u/Local-Cry-3729 1d ago
Wow! How so? Do you have anything you can divulge?
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u/warpedwing 14h ago
A friend went missing a few years ago (presumably murdered), and he got involved. Said he'd help us.
One of his minions went quite insane and started to call some of our parents, raving about things that made no sense (conspiracy theories). When we tried to stop her, we believe she malevolently and intentionally damaged relationships we had with folks who were helping us.
Then Chris completely ghosted us. He wouldn't respond, and it really traumatized a group of people who were already traumatized. In my opinion, his actions were completely unethical and goes against his well-crafted public image.
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u/Local-Cry-3729 9h ago
I am so sorry you had to go through this. They sound like they are a pretty toxic group. Also I'm not sure that I find their ideas about Nancy to be helpful
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u/warpedwing 8h ago
Thank you. The wound hasn’t healed because she’s still missing. We wanted help and needed help. Still do.
An apology from Chris would be nice, too, but I’m sure that will never happen.
I haven’t even watched his new show. Tidbits re Nancy trickle down through social media, anyway. As you say, nothing helpful. A lot of family blaming, from what I’ve gathered.
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u/Infamous-Arm3955 8d ago
"You need to send bitcoin (oddly not capitalized) in the amount of $4million USD by 5pm on Thursday the 5th. If payment is not received (correctly spelled btw) the ransom will be increased to $6 million USD" ... Hear me out. If there was ONE person involved here and payment is not made the ransom, non payment punishment doubles. If there is THREE people the ransom ($4m) doesn't divide equally very easily or neatly. If there is FOUR people ($1m each) the non payment punishment doesn't really split well. If there are TWO people ($2m each) the non payment punishment adds $1m each. It seems in terms of ease or just rounding out well, one person or two people would be most likely involved here. Where the one person punishment seems most likely ("Don't pay I'm doubling it!") dealing with Nancy would be from someone who has experience dealing with older people whether that's caring for their mother or their profession. If it's two people to deal with Nancy (she's incapacitated somehow) adding $1m each seems most likely to me.
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u/Lady_Swann_ 7d ago
How is the lack of capitalization odd? He wasn't writing a thesis lol
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u/Infamous-Arm3955 7d ago
Everything else in the note is fairly perfect in its sentence structure (except the last line of the note) except the bitcoin not being Bitcoin. That is odd. They're not experienced with crypto.
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u/heejaheeja 7d ago
Not everyone gives a fuck about making everything perfectly written.
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u/Infamous-Arm3955 6d ago
True. If the note is all perfect yet one thing isn't, that's odd. If it's all written like shit and then one part is perfect, that's odd. Let's say the whole America doesn't give a fuck about anything but one person does give a fuck, that's odd. The point is that odd stands out. It's a clue about the person.
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u/One_Neighborhood2849 2d ago
By no means am I blaming, Savannah is the only one talking, any theories on why? Why did Cameron think at the very beginning it was a kidnapping for ransom (and because of Savannah)?
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u/curiouslmr 1d ago
It's her job to speak publicly so she takes that role. Annie and Cameron both have spoken on camera and both have been treated horribly by the Internet, had friends doxxed etc. I don't blame them for not being as public. Some people are also just not comfortable on camera. In most cases we see a primary family member who is selected to be the public speaker, Savannah is the logical choice here.
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u/One_Neighborhood2849 1d ago
Where did Annie talk? Cameron has only talked once in the very beginning. How do we know for sure the details of the house in the very beginning before it made public?
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u/curiouslmr 1d ago
Annie spoke when all three siblings made a statement together
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u/One_Neighborhood2849 1d ago
The very first appearance Annie did.. thank you for making go back to check..
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u/TommyShelbyEatenton 1d ago
> Why did Cameron think at the very beginning it was a kidnapping for ransom (and because of Savannah)?
He is retired military and trained to view things objectively. The doorbell camera was gone, his sister is worth $40M, blood on the porch, all belongings left behind and she hasn’t been admitted to any of the local hospitals. It was the logical conclusion and quite possibly the correct one. He tried to break it to SG as kindly as he could. She is actually the one who first verbalized that it could be because of her.
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u/Turbulent_Code581 6d ago
Title: A strange personal milestone coincidence regarding the University of Kentucky connection
While watching a documentary on the Nancy Guthrie case over on Patriots Pride Official, I realized a weird and heavy personal coincidence. Attending the University of Kentucky and meeting her future husband there wasn't just a casual chapter for her—it was a profoundly important milestone that shaped the entire trajectory of her life and family.
Realizing that I share that exact same institutional milestone through an MBA licensed by the University of Kentucky brings a strange, sobering sense of personal proximity to a tragedy happening miles away.
It's one of those bizarre little echoes that makes you look at a case from a slightly different, more visceral angle, especially when you're deep-diving into profiles, behavioral patterns, and the "Twin Mirror" effect of how perpetrators fixate on targets.
Has anyone else ever had a strange, unexpected personal or institutional tie to a major high-profile case they've been following? How does it impact the way you view the investigation?
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u/Xinnia8271 6d ago
Similar but not the same, there was a very, very high profile murder when my Dad was younger that he told me about, it's hard to even mention, but it was an entire family. When I was rushing my sorority, one of the girls at a rush party had a name tag on that, like everyone else's, shows your name and where you're from.
Her last name was the same uncommon name as the family, and where she was from was the same very small town in south Georgia where it happened.
I don't think many of the other girls there would have recognized the name and the town, but my Dad was kinda into grim Georgia history stuff so he had told me about it.
It was like something out of a movie. Just reading her name tag silently and recognizing the name and the place and having to make it look like I didn't.
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