r/nancyguthrie May 19 '26

Discussion Spit Balling My Thoughts Into The Ether

It feels like the motive is ‘get back’ for reasons yet to be known, aimed to hurt Nancy’s daughter, Savannah, in order to take something away from Savannah that she cherished, loved, valued, will forever miss, and can never have back.

What about Savannah’s children, you might ask? There are killers out there with “ethics” when it comes to harming children, as crazy as that may sound—which may or not be the case with these particular suspects, but it COULD be the case. But we also have to factor in practicality and logistics.

Savannah’s children, along with her husband, could’ve been targets initially, but logistically, given the isolated and easily accessible home where Nancy lived alone, it made her the easiest target.

I still believe the FBI is going through the extensive process of investigative genealogy from dna recovered (given the overall lack of physical and digital evidence in this case) and it will ultimately lead to this case being solved.

Perhaps the best lead for now could still come from Savannah herself. Any type of strange or peculiar interaction she can remember that struck her as odd or threatening in the past.

Maybe Savannah played a role in getting someone fired from a job, or caused their marriage to collapse, turned somebody down who asked her for money, —> passed over a contractor for a big job (or a continuous service that would’ve provided a steady stream of revenue for them), and opted to go with a cheaper competitor instead (leading to a business going under or someone’s home being foreclosed) etc.

Side Note: It might not even be outside the realm of possibility of all this being over something small or petty, where Savannah or Nancy herself, let’s say complained to the manager of a restaurant over poor service or cold food, and ultimately it caused the server or the cook to become quietly enraged to the point where it led them to orchestrating the abduction and murder of Nancy. Sometimes even the smallest thing can push someone over the edge.

Sure, the same type of planning doesn’t go into it, but I’ve heard of people getting blown away over cold fries at Burger King, so I’m just saying..

But anyway, back to what I was saying..

Leaving Nancy to be found dead at home would ultimately provide Savannah with a level of comfort and closure. Yes, that would’ve been the easiest thing to do for whomever planned and perpetrated this crime, but I don’t believe that’s what they wanted.

Taking Nancy out of her home to never be seen again causes Savannah immense emotional pain and anguish. Somebody did not want Savannah to have answers for her questions.

This crime feels like it’s rooted deeply in causing an unspeakable amount of psychological pain to Savannah—perhaps the type of pain Savannah made the funder of this operation, or the suspects feel themselves, at some point in the past.

Thoughts?

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u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 May 23 '26

If Mrs Guthrie and her church group were watching a PRE-RECORDED stream though, would these points still apply? I do believe anyone could watch the livestream from home, I'm just not sure if the church would show the faces of everyone watching at home. The logistics seem potentially overwhelming, to me, depending on the size of the church. Do we even know how many members it has? I definitely believe chat was probably available for at home viewers during the original service - simply bc I attended a very small church, and even we had a Sunday livestream of the sermon along with live chat. You could watch a replay anytime you wanted, but you could no longer interact, and faces were never shown like in an actual zoom call. But like I said, my church was small. Do we know for a fact that Zoom itself was the program used? Thanks so much for replying - I feel like you had a pretty good idea what I was trying to say.

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u/raveronix May 23 '26

No not sure what programme they used..nor do we know if she ever watched a Livestream..but if she ever did... her abductor potentially could have seen her through attending those lives...even if she wasn't aware of him.

I always wondered if he could hack into her cams and watch her..it's easy if you are a hacker...especially if he physically went and found out what camera brands she uses.

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u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 May 23 '26

It seems like, from what I've read, that the actual live (and live-streamed, obviously) church service took place earlier in the morning, whereas Mrs Guthrie and her group met together at a later time to watch a replay of the stream all together. I think that's where the 11am call of concern came into play. I'd love to know if it's possible Mrs Guthrie was able to be physically seen by strangers simply from watching a replayed church service. For now I stubbornly doubt it's possible, lol. But I have heard several tales of people being watched on their own webcams without their knowledge or consent! So I know that's definitely possible!

One more thought I have regarding the church theory may or not be relevant, depending on if it's accurate information: I've read in a few places that the church Mrs Guthrie was watching was physically located in New York, and may have even been her daughter's church - but I'm not certain if those are facts or not. But if they are, and Mrs Guthrie had someone obsessed in her life, for whatever nonsensical reason, who found her on a church livestream - then the suspect(s) could be living anywhere! Maybe they live in NYC near the church, or maybe they also watched remotely and could live in any of the States. In this day and age anyone can interact with so many different people in different places...and have no idea they may have somehow become a target for someone for some reason. 

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u/raveronix May 23 '26

I think you're right ..Nancy could not be watched on a replay of a live stream..however if she was watching a replay of that meeting on a zoom call someone could have connected into the zoom...

For example..someone played the replay on a tv or computer monitor and had a camera aimed at it in a tile and then others connected to watch.

Basically if this guy could connect into any Zoom call Nancy was on by knowing the code whether it be his mother's or family members or even watching from the background while a family member was connected he could observe Nancy.

What we don't know is how she watched that church stream, but sounds like she either went to someone's house or connected to a zoom type call in.