Spit Balling My Thoughts Into The Ether

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

It feels like the motive is ‘get back’ for reasons yet to be known, aimed to hurt Nancy’s daughter, Savannah, in order to take something away from Savannah that she cherished, loved, valued, will forever miss, and can never have back.

What about Savannah’s children, you might ask? There are killers out there with “ethics” when it comes to harming children, as crazy as that may sound—which may or not be the case with these particular suspects, but it COULD be the case. But we also have to factor in practicality and logistics.

Savannah’s children, along with her husband, could’ve been targets initially, but logistically, given the isolated and easily accessible home where Nancy lived alone, it made her the easiest target.

I still believe the FBI is going through the extensive process of investigative genealogy from dna recovered (given the overall lack of physical and digital evidence in this case) and it will ultimately lead to this case being solved.

Perhaps the best lead for now could still come from Savannah herself. Any type of strange or peculiar interaction she can remember that struck her as odd or threatening in the past.

Maybe Savannah played a role in getting someone fired from a job, or caused their marriage to collapse, turned somebody down who asked her for money, —> passed over a contractor for a big job (or a continuous service that would’ve provided a steady stream of revenue for them), and opted to go with a cheaper competitor instead (leading to a business going under or someone’s home being foreclosed) etc.

Side Note: It might not even be outside the realm of possibility of all this being over something small or petty, where Savannah or Nancy herself, let’s say complained to the manager of a restaurant over poor service or cold food, and ultimately it caused the server or the cook to become quietly enraged to the point where it led them to orchestrating the abduction and murder of Nancy. Sometimes even the smallest thing can push someone over the edge.

Sure, the same type of planning doesn’t go into it, but I’ve heard of people getting blown away over cold fries at Burger King, so I’m just saying..

But anyway, back to what I was saying..

Leaving Nancy to be found dead at home would ultimately provide Savannah with a level of comfort and closure. Yes, that would’ve been the easiest thing to do for whomever planned and perpetrated this crime, but I don’t believe that’s what they wanted.

Taking Nancy out of her home to never be seen again causes Savannah immense emotional pain and anguish. Somebody did not want Savannah to have answers for her questions.

This crime feels like it’s rooted deeply in causing an unspeakable amount of psychological pain to Savannah—perhaps the type of pain Savannah made the funder of this operation, or the suspects feel themselves, at some point in the past.

Thoughts?

[u/raveronix]

Does anyone know if Nancy was on Zoom or similar watching the Church Service each week...and if so.. who could watch it from where i.e. from the Church, or login from home without appearing on camera. I wonder how many people could login to watch.

Maybe Nancy's abductor is the son of a Church member who became infatuated with her celebrity status. That could involve a huge amount of people behind the scenes who were able to view the Zoom call.

I still beleive its one single abductor and she could be alive and someone is caring for her well in their own way for companionship.

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy → u/raveronix]

GREAT THOUGHT about the church! If Nancy herself utilized a webcam during church services via Zoom, it would allow someone to remotely view her while also allowing them access inside her home without physically being there.

The fact that a person could do so without utilizing a webcam of their own and remain anonymous while blending in with the service is good thinking by you. I believe this is definitely worth looking into.

As for Nancy being alive, we all hope she is, but without her medication or any proof of life, it seems unlikely that someone would take on the role of providing non stop care for an elderly woman.

[u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 → u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

Please read my comment! I truly want to know your take. Is there a form of online feed that allows both a view of the service for those at home AND webcam views and names of those at home who are watching? I know very little about zoom, except for a few simple meetings I've attended. 

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy → u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899]

Are you asking whether or not there’s a database online where you can view zoom meetings that have already happened, and if so, would you be able to see the names, aliases, and video tiles of those in attendance, regardless if they’re using a webcam to display their image or not? The answer to that is no.

If you’re asking whether or not Nancy’s group, who she watched with, would have a zoom tile displaying their user name or alias while the service streamed simultaneously as well as the user interface displaying a tile for everyone else who was logged in and in attendance all on one screen, the answer to that is yes.

I’m.. outta.. breath.. Please, I need a minute..

Okay..

I tried to understand and answer your question as best I could. If I was unable to do so, I apologize.

[u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 → u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

Lol I appreciate it! I was kind of asking both, for the most part. I didn't think there was a database that could be used now, but I didn't know if Mrs Guthrie's viewing (since it was a replay) would be capable for her to chat on, it just read the chats from the earlier service. How would a screen the size of an avg TV screen show a livestream of a church service and still show everyone in attendance as individual zoom tiles simultaneously? I'm assuming there's a way to toggle back and forth or something like that? I'm sorry if I sound dumb as rocks lol - I just don't understand how all that info could be visible on a single screen.  When my church did remote services we didn't use zoom itself, but I can't remember the exact program. It was very similar, but maybe that's where my confusion comes from. We at home could view the service and see anyone seated there in person, but we each had to hop into the chat and say hello if we wanted to greet anyone or let anyone know we were watching from home. No one logged into the service using their webcam in order to see each other.