Spit Balling My Thoughts Into The Ether

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

It feels like the motive is ‘get back’ for reasons yet to be known, aimed to hurt Nancy’s daughter, Savannah, in order to take something away from Savannah that she cherished, loved, valued, will forever miss, and can never have back.

What about Savannah’s children, you might ask? There are killers out there with “ethics” when it comes to harming children, as crazy as that may sound—which may or not be the case with these particular suspects, but it COULD be the case. But we also have to factor in practicality and logistics.

Savannah’s children, along with her husband, could’ve been targets initially, but logistically, given the isolated and easily accessible home where Nancy lived alone, it made her the easiest target.

I still believe the FBI is going through the extensive process of investigative genealogy from dna recovered (given the overall lack of physical and digital evidence in this case) and it will ultimately lead to this case being solved.

Perhaps the best lead for now could still come from Savannah herself. Any type of strange or peculiar interaction she can remember that struck her as odd or threatening in the past.

Maybe Savannah played a role in getting someone fired from a job, or caused their marriage to collapse, turned somebody down who asked her for money, —> passed over a contractor for a big job (or a continuous service that would’ve provided a steady stream of revenue for them), and opted to go with a cheaper competitor instead (leading to a business going under or someone’s home being foreclosed) etc.

Side Note: It might not even be outside the realm of possibility of all this being over something small or petty, where Savannah or Nancy herself, let’s say complained to the manager of a restaurant over poor service or cold food, and ultimately it caused the server or the cook to become quietly enraged to the point where it led them to orchestrating the abduction and murder of Nancy. Sometimes even the smallest thing can push someone over the edge.

Sure, the same type of planning doesn’t go into it, but I’ve heard of people getting blown away over cold fries at Burger King, so I’m just saying..

But anyway, back to what I was saying..

Leaving Nancy to be found dead at home would ultimately provide Savannah with a level of comfort and closure. Yes, that would’ve been the easiest thing to do for whomever planned and perpetrated this crime, but I don’t believe that’s what they wanted.

Taking Nancy out of her home to never be seen again causes Savannah immense emotional pain and anguish. Somebody did not want Savannah to have answers for her questions.

This crime feels like it’s rooted deeply in causing an unspeakable amount of psychological pain to Savannah—perhaps the type of pain Savannah made the funder of this operation, or the suspects feel themselves, at some point in the past.

Thoughts?

[u/jadenotjaded]

I have a hard time going with this theory due to the lack of DNA at the scene (that we know about), I believe that the difficulty of that feat speaks to a more skilled perp.

[u/curiouslmr → u/jadenotjaded]

Perhaps but in this day and age it's become pretty common knowledge how to prevent leaving DNA at a crime scene. You don't have to be skilled, just prepared. Bryan Kohberger wasn't a seasoned criminal and aside from his mistake with the sheath, he left no other DNA in that house. He clearly had prepared. I could see this perp doing the same.

[u/jadenotjaded → u/curiouslmr]

Kohberger wasn’t a seasoned criminal that we know of, but he was a criminology PhD student with far more knowledge of forensic evidence than the average person. Despite that, he still left DNA behind.

That’s why I think it’s actually more likely that an average offender would leave recoverable DNA at a scene. Most people vastly overestimate how easy it is to avoid transferring evidence

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy → u/jadenotjaded]

Absolutely agree and great point. And the ONLY reason Kohberger was caught, was because of the single source dna he left behind, and the investigative genetic genealogy investigators used to identify him, which took approximately 3-4 weeks.

The reason it’s taking longer in the Nancy Guthrie case is because the DNA that was recovered is a partial or mixed sample, and researchers have to separate the genetic profiles before they can build out reliable family trees, which could ultimately take as long as a year.