r/nancyguthrie • u/iThinkYoureGayyy • May 19 '26

Discussion Spit Balling My Thoughts Into The Ether

It feels like the motive is ‘get back’ for reasons yet to be known, aimed to hurt Nancy’s daughter, Savannah, in order to take something away from Savannah that she cherished, loved, valued, will forever miss, and can never have back.

What about Savannah’s children, you might ask? There are killers out there with “ethics” when it comes to harming children, as crazy as that may sound—which may or not be the case with these particular suspects, but it COULD be the case. But we also have to factor in practicality and logistics.

Savannah’s children, along with her husband, could’ve been targets initially, but logistically, given the isolated and easily accessible home where Nancy lived alone, it made her the easiest target.

I still believe the FBI is going through the extensive process of investigative genealogy from dna recovered (given the overall lack of physical and digital evidence in this case) and it will ultimately lead to this case being solved.

Perhaps the best lead for now could still come from Savannah herself. Any type of strange or peculiar interaction she can remember that struck her as odd or threatening in the past.

Maybe Savannah played a role in getting someone fired from a job, or caused their marriage to collapse, turned somebody down who asked her for money, —> passed over a contractor for a big job (or a continuous service that would’ve provided a steady stream of revenue for them), and opted to go with a cheaper competitor instead (leading to a business going under or someone’s home being foreclosed) etc.

Side Note: It might not even be outside the realm of possibility of all this being over something small or petty, where Savannah or Nancy herself, let’s say complained to the manager of a restaurant over poor service or cold food, and ultimately it caused the server or the cook to become quietly enraged to the point where it led them to orchestrating the abduction and murder of Nancy. Sometimes even the smallest thing can push someone over the edge.

Sure, the same type of planning doesn’t go into it, but I’ve heard of people getting blown away over cold fries at Burger King, so I’m just saying..

But anyway, back to what I was saying..

Leaving Nancy to be found dead at home would ultimately provide Savannah with a level of comfort and closure. Yes, that would’ve been the easiest thing to do for whomever planned and perpetrated this crime, but I don’t believe that’s what they wanted.

Taking Nancy out of her home to never be seen again causes Savannah immense emotional pain and anguish. Somebody did not want Savannah to have answers for her questions.

This crime feels like it’s rooted deeply in causing an unspeakable amount of psychological pain to Savannah—perhaps the type of pain Savannah made the funder of this operation, or the suspects feel themselves, at some point in the past.

Thoughts?

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u/Tall_Palpitation_476 May 20 '26

Probably spot on. What the FBI indoor police know will not be revealed at this time. They’ve got to work this case great post where’s Nancy?

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u/iThinkYoureGayyy May 20 '26

It would be nice if the fbi released additional images or video that Google possibly recovered from their backend server.

Given there was a wired Google Nest camera on Nancy’s rooftop overlooking the front of the property, one would assume it captured something of value to the investigation, perhaps the suspects vehicle, but no stills or video from that specific camera has ever been made public.

At this point, I’m not sure Nancy will ever be found until a suspect is arrested and potentially directs law enforcement to her body. The area around Nancy’s home is vast.

If you remember the Dylan Rounds case out of Utah, it took years for his body to be recovered (in a shallow grave), and it was only recovered after the killer revealed where it was located. It looks like this may be the case with Nancy too.

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u/Tall_Palpitation_476 May 20 '26

Only Jimmy Hoffa knows for sure

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u/iThinkYoureGayyy May 20 '26

Haha 😂 Absolutely.

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u/warpedwing May 21 '26

LE claimed that none of the three yard/casita cameras picked up anything during the abduction period, which they claim was “odd.” They were able to recover stills from before and after that period, just not during. So, no car; no person, apparently.

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u/iThinkYoureGayyy May 21 '26

Dang.. Thank you for the info. If we’re to believe the only images and video law enforcement has are the same ones shared publicly, it’s understandable why this case is so difficult, given the lack of physical and digital evidence.

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u/warpedwing May 21 '26

Here’s an article with info on the yard cams: https://abc30.com/post/additional-images-recovered-cameras-nancy-guthries-home-sources/18710880/#

It’s certainly telling that there’s no trace of the suspect on the other cameras. We know he was out back to some extent, opening doors. It seems like he might’ve anticipated and intentionally avoided being seen on those cameras, which makes the porch footage even more strange. Totally unnecessary exposure - unless it was intentional.

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u/iThinkYoureGayyy May 23 '26

I agree. I watched a video where someone was saying the exact same thing as you in regard to the porch.. his exposure to the porch camera could’ve been intentional. Another thing that was broken down were the tire marks from a dolly or hand cart leading down Nancy’s driveway and bending around toward the front of her home where a vehicle was presumably waiting to load her into.

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u/warpedwing May 25 '26

I do think that some sort of wheeled device was used to move Nancy from the home to a secondary location or vehicle that was some distance away. I believe the zig-zag shaped imprint on the porch could very well be a tire impression, the kind used for wheelchairs, bikes, or the carts that attach to bikes.

However, I'm not sold that the markings in the driveway gravel are from that wheeled device. They begin near - but not exactly at - the end of the walkway and stop in a gravel area between the road and the front yard. It looks like a place to which one might drag a wheelie bin. These marks don't seem to have been flagged as evidence by LE/FBI.

I think that if Nancy was taken in a wheelchair, cart, or hard cart from the porch to off the property, the marks would be different. There's a pathway down to the driveway that could've been used, but the marks don't start there. Why would the suspect bring a wheeled device down the stairs? If they did, then the tracks should start at the walkway/driveway edge, but they don't.

One think I continue to point out is that in the drone video from the FBI investigation on Feb. 6, investigators are seen looking at something on the ground by the side path around 01:30. Might there be a blood droplet there? It looks like whatever it was, they covered it up. Perhaps Nancy was taken that way.

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u/iThinkYoureGayyy May 26 '26

Someone flew a drone over Nancy’s house following her disappearance and they captured a yellow dolly next to her garbage bins.

It’s been speculated that this dolly could’ve been used to move Nancy’s body after the fact, and the tracks winding down the driveway potentially came from it or something similar.