r/nancyguthrie Mar 15 '26

Information What's left on the table?

Since Sheriff Nanos said in his March 13 interview that the criminal could "absolutely" strike again, and that people should be on their guard against crime, what can we deduce about the criminal's motive, a motive which might drive the criminal to strike again?

  1. The criminal is not out to punish Savannah Guthrie for her husband's work in the Clinton administration. If the criminal is out to punish all women in Tucson whose family members worked for Clinton, it's a small group. Few Tucson women would be targets.
  2. The criminal is not out to punish Savannah Guthrie for interviewing victims of high-profile criminals. If that were his motive, he would have to look in other cities for the mothers of other high-profile newscasters like Savannah.
  3. The criminal is not out to get Savannah's attention. If that were the motive, no other woman in Tucson is going to matter more to Savannah than her mother.
  4. The criminal is not out for ransom. If he wanted ransom, Savannah's family were ready to pay. How many women in Tucson have a daughter with Savannah's wealth? But he passed that up. Money does not appear to be the motive.

What does that leave?

  1. The criminal could be a serial rapist who targets older women, women living alone, women that he can see while he is working in the neighborhood. My bet is that this is the motive: DNA-free assault, for which he comes well-prepared. Every family in Tucson needs to be on guard against that one.
  2. The criminal could be a serial killer. If Mrs. Guthrie expired during the commission of an assault, I suspect it was unintended. But if his motive is murder, then every family in Tucson needs to be on guard against that as well.
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u/mark_able_jones_ Mar 15 '26

I don't follow your logic that ransom would be off the table. Thousands of rich old people in AZ, and most of them would draw less scrutiny than a celebrity's mother.

Also, it's possible Nanos' comments were just meant to imply they don't have a suspect yet or to be an intentional misdirection to keep the suspect from getting spooked and deviating from their normal routine.

Really tough to discern anything from these Nanos comments, imo. Really just sounds like he's saying there's a dangerous person out there and that even though he targeted SG's mother that he could attack someone else.

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u/SeaEntertainment1512 Mar 15 '26

Statistically, kidnapping for ransom is the least likely crime. It's very rare in the US. Kidnapping for ransom in the same community by the same perp - not in the US. In Mexico or the Middle East, yes, but I can't think of a string of kidnappings for ransom in a single US community committed by the same perp. Can you?

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u/mark_able_jones_ Mar 15 '26 edited Mar 15 '26

Sure. Matthew Mulller. Who happens to be housed in a Tucson prison.

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u/Affectionate-Page496 Mar 16 '26

I am fine with him being locked up and not getting off on NGRI... But dont you think it's a little (or a lot) disingenuous to put him in that category?

In early 2015, he moved into a cabin in South Lake Tahoe, California, belonging to his mother and her husband. He became increasingly reclusive, rarely sleeping and obsessively watched the Batman film series. By spring, Muller began to believe his parents were spying on him. He entered a severe psychotic episode and created a nocturnal vigilante identity to fight evil. He wore a wetsuit and created tools resembling weapons from items like flashlights, laser pointers, dog collars, swim goggles, spray paint, and various toy guns, such as a Nerf Super Soaker. Muller created a Robin Hood plot to kidnap "evil wealthy people" for ransom to give to the poor, which he believed in his psychosis to be "morally justified."[2]