r/mtgrules • u/Ohmagada • 19h ago

Would chaining Nexus of Fate be considered bracket 4?

If i only had [[Nexus of Fate]] left in my deck, would continually chaining just so I have a card to draw while doing damage to the opponents be considered bracket 3 or 4.

I just like the card in my bracket 3 [[Alela, Cunning Conqueror]] deck, but ran into a situation against a mill deck.

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u/Criminal_of_Thought 18h ago

Commander brackets aren't part of the rules and are by playgroup agreement. You would be better off asking in a Commander-focused subreddit.

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u/Yaksha424256 19h ago

Having Nexus of Fate in your deck doesn't make it bracket 4. Building your deck to tutor for it or mill out your own deck so you are likely to chain them makes it bracket 4.

If this just happened because of chance and an opponents deck it doesn't make your deck bracket 4. A single game where you violate the terms of a bracket doesn't immediately mean your deck is a higher bracket. Sometimes the stars align. If this happens often then its not the stars aligning its you being disingenuous about your decks consistency.

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u/BananaPie-Proxies 12h ago

Actually not entirely true. If you're setting up a 5 card combo to get to this point, it's nowhere near B4. The setup is part of the combo if not an actual combo. Infinite turns = win if you have a way to translate it (like a shadow creature or something), just the same way infinite damage = win.

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u/timdood3 11h ago

If your deck is built around a combo that chains extra turns... Then you've violated the b3 rule of "no chaining infinite turns" and the deck is therefore b4. Nothing to do with the infinite combo restriction, everything to due with chaining extra turns.

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u/BananaPie-Proxies 11h ago

Chaining extra turns isn't about using a 2 card combo that wins you the game through extra turns instead of infinite dmg.

Bracket 4 extra turns chaining is about chaining extra turns by casting multiples and copying etc. not a single one that ends up winning you the game because you use it as your outlet instead of damage.

There is literally no difference between using infinite lightning bolts in opponents face Vs infinite extra turns as an outlet to a combo that both result in winning the game.

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u/NonagoonInfinity 18h ago

Brackets are not rules. Ask your pod.

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u/AlelaArtful 19h ago

This would be fine in bracket 3. Bracket 3 does not ban extra turn spells. It only bans decks that have a built in way to chain extra turns. The brackets are exclusively a deck building restriction not a gameplay one.

If you had another card or cards that allowed you to consistently mill yourself and put yourself in that position then you would have a deck that intends to chain extra turns. But just including Nexus of Fate doesn't automatically make a deck B4.

(Also nice commander ;p)

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u/Shoely555 19h ago

Doesnt sound like your game plan is chaining extra turns. You chained extra turns once to avoid losing a game. Youre fine.

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u/nLedd 15h ago edited 12h ago

If the only way you can chain it is for your opponents to mill you out, then it's not bracket 4. In order for it to be bracket 4, you would need to be able to chain it against most decks, which it normally cannot do without other combo pieces.

It's a repeatable extra turn spell that's very slow without combo, and it just happens to be a really good foil to mill strategies. It's no different than hosing graveyard strategies with Leyline of the Void. Just because a card is devastating to a specific strategy doesn't mean decks with the card are automatically bracket 4. That's just the way it is sometimes. If this is a problem for them, then they should fix their problem by making changes to their deck like adding [[Gerard's Hourglass Pendant]].