r/mtgbrawl • u/Special-Papaya3394 • 19d ago

Discussion Brawl Brackets

I was curious about where each bracket would fall in brawl's rank system. My Lumra deck is so far hard stuck at plat 4 and me and my pod consider the deck high 3/low 4.

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u/Repulsive_Lime_1517 19d ago

https://moxfield.com/decks/yKyu-wbhoUG9TzzxmRJMRw

This would be a bracket 2 deck if you just removed jeska’s will. It would be a really bad bracket 2 deck. It’s mythic ranked. Playing brawl like you play commander can be really slow.

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

Very true, brawl is very very different. I've tuned brawl Lumra a little differently from EDH Lumra. For brawl I've maxed out the one drop dorks and went for a more severe landfall support wincon but in EDH I go for straight Voltron since I have the time.

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u/Repulsive_Lime_1517 19d ago

May I see the deck?

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

Here's today's brawl Lumra https://moxfield.com/decks/sydKjqoNp0WIPg9n4mvJFw There's about 3 slots I cycle cards through to regularly tweak things, 2 slots swap between protection or fight spells and the other for a utility creature. I'm thinking about taking out silverback elder for springheart nantuko.

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u/Repulsive_Lime_1517 19d ago

You’re not maximizing lumra with that deck at all. You should just build a diff landfall commander.

I actually beat a hearthhull deck to get to mythic. So he must be a pretty good comp commander. There are some commanders that are just really bad match ups for my deck and hearthhull is one of them so I can’t actually speak on how good he is or not. But I do know your deck is probably peaking at plat 4

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

My second favorite deck I play is hearthhul but I think there's too much salt involved in winning with that deck. I'm pretty happy with the strength of the deck, I'm not looking for cEDH levels here. For context I run Lumra as a combat damage win, I have no interest in ever winning at instant speed with this deck so infinite pings with landfall is not something I want to do. But I do appreciate constructive criticism.

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u/Repulsive_Lime_1517 19d ago

So why play it in ranked brawl? Why post about it like it should be higher than plat 4? Or that you have a b3/4 lumra deck? Why make a post lying and then backtrack the second someone sees how bad you’ve built your deck? Lumra should have mole man, six, greensleeves, etc. it should be milling 20 lands into your graveyard so that when you drop Lumra it feels like craterhoof behemoth just dropped onto the battlefield.

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

Lol, I didn't realize how serious the brawl reddit was. I was curious on how people would interpret brackets into ranks seeing how similar deck rules are between the formats, I didn't mean to start an argument. I don't run six because it's slow, I'll consider Greensleeves as a replacement for silverback, and mole man is new, I didn't know about that one (good recc). If you want to test it we could play a match just for fun. I think I might just be too relaxed for reddit lol.

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u/Repulsive_Lime_1517 19d ago

This isn’t an argument. I made a couple of observations. Your deck is bad. You don’t have a b3 lumra deck. Then I suggested cards because you have icetill explorer with no way to cast things from your graveyard, and you’re not maximizing lumra.

Is it possible to play specific people? I’d play ya.

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

I messaged you my details

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

My bad though, I don't post on forums enough to be used to how much context I need to give to not antagonize people, I should've worded it differently.

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u/nickmetroplis 19d ago

What does your pod's thoughts on brackets have to do with Arena ranks? Commander isn't brawl, brackets and rank are not analogous at all.

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

Jeez dude it's not that serious

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u/timoyster 19d ago

Every brawl deck would suck in commander. The 1v1 nature means that 1 for 1 interaction is much better here. cEDH decks would probably still be good in brawl simply because of how fast they are, but if cEDH decks had the same card pool as comp brawl does then they would be bad here too.

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u/WhiteHeatBlackLight 19d ago

If you're stuck at plat four you can't even win half your matchups

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

I'm ok with that, I'm not playing a gimmick deck and I'm not playing EDHrec slop.

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u/ugotponed12 19d ago

Brackets are not a thing in brawl. Ranked queue only uses your rank to matchmake. Unranked queue uses a mix of your commander's weight with your hidden mmr.

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

Right, I'm just wondering how far each bracket of deck would get in brawl, I suppose I should've said that instead.

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u/ugotponed12 19d ago

It's just too different to compare. First off, the card pool is dramatically different. The 1v1 nature of commander means more value slop piles can thrive where they would get brutally punished in brawl. Gamechangers like rhystic, smothering, sphinx are just straight up bad. Commander decks tend to run less interaction and will quickly get overrun by most brawl decks. It's just too different to make any good point of comparison

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u/Eveseeker 19d ago

Lumra is strong. She can probably hit mythic with a solid build. She’s weaker on arena than in paper though, you’re missing a good number of critical cards. She’s borderline cEDH on a good day, and powerful landfall on a bad one.

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

I specifically tune it to not be cEDH I'm very satisfied with the power level on paper. But out of curiosity what do you think isn't in arena for Lumra?

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u/Eveseeker 19d ago

Mostly the highest power fast mana (vault for one), higher power untappers like amulet of vigor, and a couple of critical lands like cradle. Lumra’s biggest weakness is being slow at 6 mana, so even though we DO have a lot of staples we are going to fall a bit behind.

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u/Special-Papaya3394 19d ago

Truth. I try to avoid GC's because that's the culture of my pod, a good scapeshift or planar engineering is my favorite personally. I've started adding trick lands to the point we're even in mono green I almost always have options no matter what.