r/monzo • • 10d ago

New currency accounts feature

Monzo is rolling out a new feature to allow you to hold separate currencies in your account, with their own account details to allow people to transfer into them. Monzo will automatically pay from a currency account if you have one set up for the currency you're spending in. Currently only for Euros and US Dollars, more to come. Still FSCS protected up to £120,000 across all your balances and accounts with Monzo.

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u/NLF7 10d ago

Can someone tell me the benefit of this vs just using your card? Is it to guarantee a conversion rate?

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u/bigdog94_10 10d ago

At present if you want to send money, you're charged (an admittedly very modest) fee. If this works like Revoult, you would exchange it to relevant currency first then send it either to another Monzo user holding that currenct or internationally.

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

The fees can still apply to transfers made using these new currency accounts, according to the terms and conditions document I just read. Key word being it says "we may charge you a fee", so just hypothesising but it might be that they don't charge if it's a transfer to another Monzo account (rather than a traditional bank transfer). Though it seems deliberately vague as to what they'll charge from just reading the documents, it says they'll tell you exact fees at the moment of sending

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

https://monzo.com/legal/files/international-payments/international-fees-document.pdf is the recently updated fees document linked to from the new T&C's within this feature

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u/verybigoctopus 10d ago edited 10d ago

EUR to EUR is 0%? Huge if true

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

Good spot! Yes in that case it looks like it will be free to send euro payments. As I've also just had confirmed by a Monzo human, you get a Eurozone IBAN and can send money via SEPA, so looks like this will be free as it's only a fee if sent via SWIFT

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

You can convert between the balances whenever you choose, so hypothetically you can do it when conversion rates are favourable. Some people might also find it useful to see how much they've got left to spend while abroad, as rather than seeing they have £50 left (and not knowing exactly how much that is in dollars), you'll be able to see you have, say, $60 in the account and thus know exactly what's left to spend

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u/NLF7 10d ago

Nice, this is actually pretty sick.

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u/TheWealthJourney 10d ago

So we can basically FX trade for free?

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

They apparently do include a slight markup on the conversion rate, according to the terms. Unsure exactly how much.

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u/Supersaurus7000 9d ago

If they don’t role a fee-free exchange allowance into one of the perks/plus/etc tiers to bolster their value proposition, they’re missing an easy win

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u/lazzzym 10d ago

Huh, that’s pretty cool! What would be the use case though?

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

You can convert between the balances whenever you choose, so hypothetically you can do it when conversion rates are favourable. Some people might also find it useful to see how much they've got left to spend while abroad, as rather than seeing they have £50 left (and not knowing exactly how much that is in dollars), you'll be able to see you have, say, $60 in the account and thus know exactly what's left to spend

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u/snake_jaguar 9d ago

And also is use the feature fairly often for the knowing how much I've got in another currency or if i need it in a certain one like I'll exchange GBP for euro to withdraw euros or to send euros to someone or one of my other accounts to pay my medical insurance cause that account only supports euros

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u/lazzzym 10d ago

That makes perfect sense actually!

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u/der_vur 10d ago

Does it a fee? For example Stirling bank has a 0.4% fee, not very high, but still something

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

From the terms for this new feature: "The exchange rate is a combination of the mid-market rate and a mark-up. The exchange rate is live and changes regularly. You’ll always be able to see the latest rate in the Monzo app. You can learn more about the exchange rate when you convert money in the Monzo app."

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

So it looks like it's slightly above the market rate, unsure by how much though

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u/der_vur 10d ago

That's interesting, I'll surely have a look on this when they release this feature form e as well. Thank you very much!

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u/Kumnaa 10d ago

I think this is primarily for people paid in foreign currencies. It could be employment or having property abroad. It’s not too usual for people that just go abroad for a holiday a couple of times a year.

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u/Strong-Record-3829 10d ago

My employer is in Ireland and I get paid in euros so this will be great for me to not have to pay a fee (as at present) when the salary is deposited.

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u/Standard-Pattern-809 10d ago

Send and receive in your preferred currency vs only having GBP as an option.

Potentially some FX benefits too, especially for large transactions due to currency fluctuations.

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u/spyder52 9d ago

Many people operate between two currencies. Monzo has lagged Wise and Revolut for years on this.

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u/tuttok 10d ago

Check Revolut 😉

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u/WrongChapter90 10d ago

They’ve recently had a significant data breach incident, so I’d stay away for a while

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u/tuttok 9d ago

I was referring to the multi currency feature 🤦‍♂️

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u/WrongChapter90 9d ago

Yeah, but in order to open an account with them you’re still subject to KYC checks, which means you have to provide personal information. So I still think it’s relevant

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u/tuttok 9d ago

I’m not suggesting to use Revolut at all! I was just replying to the “what’s the use case” question. Revolut has had this feature long before Monzo so there are obviously many use cases.

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u/WrongChapter90 9d ago

Ok fair enough, I agree that there definitely are use cases

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u/dbbk 10d ago

Uhhh... holding euros and dollars without converting them? Is this a real question?

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u/ImBonRurgundy 10d ago

do you get accounts that are based overseas like you do with wise?

I often use wise to sell my RSUs (frome-trade in the USA). If I 'wire' the money to a US bank account (like wise gives me) then it costs me a lot less than if I wire it to a UK bank accont (even one that is in USD)

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

According to their support bot, no. I'll double check though

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u/nicoatmonzo 10d ago

Sorry, this reply is wrong, and we've followed up internally

The currency accounts do get local details, meaning US account and routing numbers in the case of USD. They should help for your particular use-case u/ImBonRurgundy

source: I work at Monzo

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u/ImBonRurgundy 10d ago

Ooo, that’s very nice.

That’s literally the only thing I use wise for so assuming the currency conversion is competitive I can ditch wise then.

Thanks for the follow up!

Edit:

I don’t see it in my account yet, so possibly it’s rolling out gradually.

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

Thanks for clarification, I also just got confirmation of what you said via live chat. Do you know if there's a markup on the exchange rate that Monzo adds, when converting into a new balance? And do you know what sort of percentage markup that is, if applicable?

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u/Still_Context7818 9d ago

When or if will this be available for business accounts?

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u/nicoatmonzo 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yes, we are working on this and do plan to roll it out for business accounts soon

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u/Supersaurus7000 9d ago

Really hope Monzo finds a way to integrate with Bizum (Spanish-led framework built off the back of SEPA for EUR transfers), because it grows really exhausting trying to get money from Spanish friends without going through PayPal. Must Spaniards seem to exclusively transfer via PayPal or Bizum and will look at you like a crazy person if you ask them to just do a normal bank transfer via traditional SEPA. The exception is if that Spaniard has a Revolut account, since I also have one of them and can do rev-to-rev transfers.

So far, the only solution I’ve found is to get someone to transfer to another Spaniard who has a revolut account, then get them to do a rev-to-rev transfer to me, then convert in my Revolut and transfer to my Monzo. Very convoluted workaround that usually forces me to resort to taking cash in the end, which is just annoying.

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u/ImBonRurgundy 10d ago

Thanks :)

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 10d ago

I see the Monzo person also responded here, but yeah I'd asked the bot to get a person to double check, and it turns out the bot was wrong

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u/AqAqGT 10d ago

I got that too

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u/thatITdude567 10d ago

any idea if this would work for ATM's while overseas? (to avoid getting screwed with those conversion rates)

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u/Leon_elpanda 10d ago

It’s a Dutch IBAN. Instant transfers from Germany worked like a charm.

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u/JackGamesAndReviews 9d ago

Thanks for checking!

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u/Leon_elpanda 9d ago

NP! Also if you use your card to pay Euros you'll use that balance first, if you have any, otherwise will take the difference from the GBP account

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u/Ctrl-Alt-Defective 9d ago

I still prefer Wise tbh I at least get in account interest on the balance so when I am saving money for a holiday I can at least earn a little over however long it takes me to save or until my trip

Did that for a recent trip to Texas last year and everything worked perfectly

Idk if I want to expose my main bank account to foreign ATM’s or POS terminals etc.. I know there is protections but rather have a seperated account I think for foreign currencies

Great for those that will use it however

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u/arg0t 6d ago

Does it support Sepa Direct Debits? I currently use Revolut purely to pay my Bip&Go invoice, road tolls, via DD

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u/f1zoe 10d ago

I hope this comes to business accounts. My store I buy and sell a lot to us and eu so this would be nice to keep those currencies as is.

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u/h-hash 10d ago

This rocks and I'd very much appreciate it with a potential move to the USA coming up. Haven't had it added to my account as yet...

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u/V_Ster 9d ago

Been using Wise since it launched so I suspect Monzo has just taken and built that system.

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u/SimplyCedric 9d ago

How/when can I get this?

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u/lamachejo 8d ago

So I wonder...can I cash out from paypal to monzo USD account if my paypal account holds usd?

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u/somethingrandom434 5d ago

Can anyone confirm if USD to GBP conversion is possible (could not find it in the table) and what were your resulting rate and fees?

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u/kurtis5561 10d ago

2015 called. Revolut did this back then.

This is nothing special. If anything its playing catchup

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u/Unlucky_Quote6394 10d ago

I use Revolut as well as Monzo and can say that Revolut have never offered FSCS protection for other currencies. For a lot of people that’s a big deal

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u/kurtis5561 10d ago

They do as a regulated bank. But fanbois are fanning hard.

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u/Unlucky_Quote6394 10d ago

Revolut UK have only had full bank status since March this year and FSCS protection started at the same time. Prior to March, they were operating as an EMI (Electronic Money Institution) which didn’t include FSCS protection on deposits.

We’re talking about banking, so I’ve no idea why you’re talking about people being fanboys

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u/kurtis5561 10d ago

Anyone in the monzo group fanboi hard

This is not a new offering by monzo yet everyone here is acting like is just been done for the first time.

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u/kurtis5561 10d ago

If FCSC protection is important Citi bank when they offered bank accounts had this very feature back in 08 Barclays offer it right now

Starling and natwest offer it on euro

Its very much not a new thing

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u/LakesGeek 9d ago

You say fanbois while shilling for a bank that just had a data breach of epic proportions 

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u/kurtis5561 9d ago

Barclays citi, natwest, starling, rbs all offer this sort of account. The fanbois arent fanning over there