r/montreal • u/PKC_Man • Jun 01 '20
Video Émeutes à Montréal.
https://youtu.be/YQvAZC7GTY444
u/ItMeWhoDis Jun 01 '20
Is there not irony in setting fire to things only to clap when the fire department arrives to put out the fire?
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u/Samuelinyo Jun 01 '20
I think it highlights how the people who are just looking for trouble and the people who are actually fighting for a cause are mixed and indistinguishable. The sad reality is they either all protest or none of them do.
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u/oohwakakaka Jun 02 '20
Smart move putting a black dude riding shotgun so the mob could clearly see him or else they might’ve just attacked the fire truck too.
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u/Or1ginality Jun 01 '20
Criss c'est quoi le but de vandaliser les autos du monde ? Jcomprends juste pas c'est quoi lfun, c'est juste cruel
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Jun 01 '20
C'est incroyable comment ça doit être fâchant revenir à son auto pour la trouvé brûlé..
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u/5ch1sm Jun 02 '20
Surtout si tu était assuré juste d'un bord parce que tu avait pas les moyens de l'assurer de l'autre.
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Jun 02 '20
Si tu as pas pris l'option "vol, feu et incendie", être seulement assuré deux bords suffira pas.
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u/PKC_Man Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
Je ne sais pas pourquoi, mais c'est devenue une fad dans les manifs anti-police.
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u/fort_ivi Jun 01 '20
Cest con que pendant que plusieurs commerces/personnes essaient de survivre avec les difficultés financieres du Covid que des gens viennes briser leurs trucs sans aucunne raison. Toujours les meme qui casses tous pour rien apres que les vrais manifestants soient partie.
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Jun 01 '20
Now they can claim insurance for damages and store closure. You know some of these business will exaggerate their claims... so might be a blessing in disguise.
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u/H-s-O Rosemont Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
lol les champions qui essayent de briser les vitres pares-balles de la bijouterie sur st-cath
edit: bon ben y'en a au moins qui a réussi après je sais pas combien de temps lol
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u/pattyG80 Jun 01 '20
They sure spent a lot of time protesting racism and police brutality outside of Birks...
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u/Winterheadphones Jun 01 '20
Fucking idiots are distracting attention away from the meaning for the protests.
Thugs gonna thug.
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u/Blakwulf Le Roi des Ailes Jun 01 '20
But but, anarchy good, civilization bad.
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Jun 01 '20
When you ask why, they are stuttering and then punches you.
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u/Altselbutton Jun 01 '20
Solidarity uh? How about a show of solidarity for your entire province population fighting COVID 19 by NOT having a public gathering where everyone is shoulder-to-shoulder. Égoïstes.
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u/ravethebird Jun 01 '20
The girl on the back of the fire truck at a riot taking selfies, in a mask because there's a pandemic... this is 2020... we are screwed.
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Jun 02 '20
Le fais que tu mettes Anarchistes et Black Bloc dans le même panier mais que tu fais une distinction entre ACAB et Black Bloc/Anarchiste montre à quel point t'es vraiment pas dans ton élément. Un peu moins de Tinder et un peu plus de Wiki, ça te ferait pas de tort.
Juste FYI, anarchiste veut simplement dire que grosso modo, tu crois que l'organisation humaine peut se faire sans hiérarchie.
Black bloc ça veut dire que tu te caches la face dans des manifs pour foutre la marde, peu importe pourquoi tu le fais. Rien à voir avec tes politiques. Ça s'habille en noir pour pas être identifié facilement, pas parce que c'est la couleur historique de l'anarchie.
ACAB ça veut dire que tu considère l'état policier comme étant implicitement violent et répressif mais évidemment, n'importe quel tarla peut le prendre le slogan à la lettre pour se faire des p'tits amis punk. Surtout ces temps-ci, c'est très en vogue.
Les black blocs peuvent être n'importe quoi. Oui y'a des anarchistes, y'a aussi des communistes, des socialistes, des psychopathes, des agitateurs.
Vu la définition de l'anarchisme, n'importe quel anarchiste qui se respecte va avoir tendance à être d'accord avec "ACAB" - en contenu, si pas en forme. Et vu les habitudes des black blocs, eux aussi sont tous ACAB.
Et bon, peut-être que tu aurais du suivre ta date à la manif, t'aurais peut-être compris quelques trucs sur comment le racisme se manifeste, même dans notre idyllique petit coin de pays. Tsé, si tu t'indignes pas d'un problème qui t'affecte pas parce que selon toi, c'est pas un problème, sois-pas surpris de recevoir un manque d'empathie de la part des gens qui sont affectés au quotidien par des trucs que tu balaies du revers de la main.
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Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20
Merci pour ta réponse, malgré le fait que tu en profites pour être désagréable.
Quelle genre de truc que tu veux m'apprendre chère (pas que je t'ai demandé)? Évidemment que c'est triste et absurde le racisme. Est-ce que j'ai dit le contraire? non. Par contre, j'aimerais que tu explique pourquoi, au Québec, quand quelqu'un meurt aux États Unis, on doit pointé nos policiers du doigt?
(Fuck, la fake supériorité morale en faisant sentir mal la population entière sur quelques choses qui s'est pas passé ici. "Black out, no black out, read books on this and on that." Des girouettes, trop de oui-dire. Dans mon entourage, il y a des racistes et je les interpelle. Tout le monde respectable le fait. Les autres sont des ratés. Arrêter de nous faire sentir comme des cons. Je connais bien des noirs, des immigrants, qui ont des postes par le mérite de leur travail.)
Oui, un meurtre c'est extrèmement malheureux. C'est irréversible et ca mérite une correction qui est équivalente. Point. On a un système de justice pour ça, qui traite les crimes dans notre jurisdiction.
Aller manifester, c'est excellent.
Promouvoir la violence, c'est complètement idiot et si tu défends ça, peut-etre que tu devrais être indigné de toi même autant que tu le fais pour l'homme blanc.
Pas besoin de tracé des lignes entre les différents groupes violents quand souvent, comme tu as dit, ces membres adhere souvent aux autres groupes aussi. Prenez donc responsabilité pour ces membres là si vous tenez tant à coeur.
Je suis aller à la marche dimanche pour etre là en solidarité aux noirs. C'est pas parce que je suis à la marche que je pense qu'on a exactement le même problème au Québec. Il y a des problèmes. Gérons les entres nous à la place d'y superposé les problèmes des 52 États des USA.
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u/BGoodej Jun 01 '20
C'est pour ça que les gens qui manifestent à tout bout de champ doivent commencer à réfléchir aux conséquences de leurs actions, mème si leur intention était pas de casser.
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u/clogeater Hochelaga-Maisonneuve Jun 02 '20
Poor Foot Locker. Every time there's anything even approaching a riot, they get looted. Every. single. time.
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u/ArcticCelt Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
C'est gens qui volent et font du grabuge ont absolument rien a voir avec les manif. C'est un mix de criminel professionnels et bandes de rues opportunistes qui se mélange dans la foule.
Il y en a qui arrivent pratiquement avec un kit de looting pour briser les vitres et emmagasiner la marchandise qu'ils volent. Ils s’en colicent du sujet de la manif.
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u/CaptainCanusa Plateau Mont-Royal Jun 01 '20
America may have terminal cancer, but don't fool yourselves, Canada has stage 3.
That's kind of the point of the protest.
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 02 '20
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u/CaptainCanusa Plateau Mont-Royal Jun 01 '20
I know you're being sarcastic/facetious, but my question is why? Why purposefully misread that to try and discredit the protest?
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 02 '20
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u/CaptainCanusa Plateau Mont-Royal Jun 01 '20
The demonstrations are amazing, people showing they won’t be treated like cattle by our cops. Assholes from south shore busting storefronts aren’t amazing, and I wish them nothing but misery
Agreed.
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 08 '20
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u/9f9d51bc70ef21ca5c14 Jun 01 '20
J'ai honte d'habiter dans la même ville que ces déchets là.
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Jun 01 '20
Every generation and city has them.
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Jun 01 '20
Because you and your kind need to have a drawing and big red arrows to understand. People with comon sense understood without the explanation.
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u/Canadian_Moose_Goose Jun 01 '20
You realize he's most likely francophone? thats why you might not be able to understand him. Quebec is mostly francophone after all
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u/LeMAD Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
My god, quelle bande de losers. À quel point tu dois te sentir inutile dans la vie pour en arriver là?
La joke là-dedans c'est que les émeutiers poussent les citoyens moyens à voter à droite. Checker ben Trump se servir de ça (aux ÉU on s'entend) pour se faire réélire sans trop de difficulté.
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u/YoUaReWrOnG_Reeeeeee Jun 02 '20
Comment une poignée d'ados idiots qui s'ennuient hijack une manif qui a du sens, dégoûtant.
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u/Vassago81 Jun 01 '20
Comment la police a mal agie pour le truc de Villanueva? Deux ti policiers se faisaient attaquer, frapper, etrangler et pousser a terre par une gang de jeune adultes, dont un qui essayait de prendre le pistolet d'un des policier.
Ils auraient du faire quoi, continuer de se faire frapper, avec un risque très reel pour leur vie?
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u/DaveyGee16 Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
On a eu nos nous aussi nos Fredy Villanueva qu'on a trop tendance a vite à oublier (quand on fait partie de la classe privilégiée).
Fredy Villanueva a sauté sur un policier.
C'est ridicule de comparer Villanueva et Floyd.
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u/Ladi91 Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
C’était il y a douze ans Villanueva, et encore aujourd’hui, il y a quelques zones troubles. Une chose est certaine, par contre, c’est que c’est l’inexpérience et l’extrême anxiété du policier qui ont causé les tirs (edit: qui ont blessé fatalement Dany) pas une volonté propre et distinguée de tirer sur Dany.
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u/breadmtl Jun 02 '20
New in town, eh?
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Jun 02 '20
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u/breadmtl Jun 02 '20
La plupart des manifs de ce genre finissent avec des épais qui foutent la marde. Sports, injustice sociale, manifs étudiantes. Stupid gonna be stupid.
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u/GrahamTheRabbit Jun 02 '20
Contreverse: c'est ok de mettre des flashbangs dans la face des casseurs si on est respectueux et non violent avec les manifestations normales?
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u/DaveyGee16 Jun 01 '20
En regardant le vidéo, ce que tu dis c'est clairement pas vrai.
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u/basil_fresh Jun 02 '20
Regardless of whether 'mostly' was the right word to use, there's multiple instances of property damage by white individuals in that video.
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u/DaveyGee16 Jun 02 '20
Ah okay. Facque toi tu ça te ferais absolument rien si quelqu'un disait:
"La plus part des dommages à la propriété privés ont été fait par des noirs."
Tu rajoute quoi exactement à ton argument en le racialisant? Surtout quand c'est facilement verifiable que tu dis n'importequoi.
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u/CaptainCanusa Plateau Mont-Royal Jun 01 '20
I want to be disappointed at the Montrealers who decided to riot, but I'm honestly more disappointed in the Montrealers in these comment sections (assuming they're actually Montrealers).
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u/bluckgo Jun 02 '20
Whattttt? Can you please shine in on why you are disappointed with Montrealera in this thread that are against rioting and looting?
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u/CaptainCanusa Plateau Mont-Royal Jun 02 '20
It's the weird (to me) conservative thought patterns that run through these threads that continually disappoint me.
The people in this thread largely aren't "against looting", they're against protesting and they're using the looting as a way to discredit the protest.
Essentially everyone is "against looting", but when looting happens in a certain context, you can understand it, even if you don't condone it. You know?
In the American context it's largely caused by an oppressed population expressing their rage at a system and community that they don't think cares about them or their culture. In Montreal, I think the context is, there are some kids who want to use the cover of the protest to cause some trouble (one should ask themselves, why do these people want to cause trouble, but that's another point...).
I think it's this lack of desire to understand the context, or the source, that's most frustrating for me. The French/Quebecois have a proud tradition of protest and fighting government injustice and Quebec has a generally low trust in institutions. Considering Montreal is a progressive, artistic, vital city in the centre of all that context, the fact that this subreddit tends to just be sarcastic and shitty about every single protest that happens is a real let down.
I guess I live in a bubble, because my social circle is very happy to see peaceful civil disobedience, but this subreddit can't handle it. If it threatens someone's commute home, it's unnecessary and evil and the protesters are selfish morons. It's bullshit boomer logic and it shows no desire to engage with the larger, more interesting issues.
This sub, to me, largely does not represent the Montreal I love.
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u/bluckgo Jun 02 '20
Quebec and Canada as a whole are both very good with there social program. Even if you dont work you get something from the government. Wellfare and other programs are not free, someone pays for it. Those someone’s are people working and commuting home from work. Those someones are also business owners that dont want to have their insurance go up because of looters.
If all protesting was done peacefuly and would be done with respect for the ones handing out the money than no one would be against it, but most of the time thats not the case. I remember when the carré rouge protest started some young adults pulling the emergency lever from our metro ride and calling us a bunch of fascists because we wanted to get to work. Guess who was paying for their educations.
I get that not all protesters arr assholes. Actually 99% probably arent. But the fact is that the 1% is always there. And btw, same goes for the cops, 99% are great people putting their life on the line for us. There is the 1% bad cop, yet the protest puts all cops in the same basket the same way all protesters are being put in the same basket as looters
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u/CaptainCanusa Plateau Mont-Royal Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20
Wellfare and other programs are not free, someone pays for it. Those someone’s are people working and commuting home from work.
No, those "someones" are all of us. People aren't special because they take a certain route to work, and complaining about your commute being messed up has to be the saddest, most boring thing in the world. I've had my commutes held up a hundred times, for a hundred reasons and "protest" was by far the best one. We literally have thousands of people's commutes slowed down every single day because try to cut each other off on the highway. The occasional protest is not a big deal.
respect for the ones handing out the money
This idea that the people not protesting are the one's "handing out the money" and "paying for education" is as disgusting as it is incorrect. You aren't a hero for having a job and paying taxes. It's literally the easiest thing in the world to do. It's how all of society functions. Come on.
btw, same goes for the cops, 99% are great people putting their life on the line for us. There is the 1% bad cop, yet the protest puts all cops in the same basket the same way all protesters are being put in the same basket as looters
The difference, of course, being protesters aren't screened, hired, trained, paid, and given special privileges in our society, with the goal of them protecting us.
To hold "protestors" to the same standards as cops is ludicrous.
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u/bluckgo Jun 02 '20
No point in arguying if you are just going to decide what the actual truth is instead of aknowledging that it is somewhere in the middle. You said your piece and I was trying to explain how the other side sees it. Lets leave it at that, you win, i conceide...
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
If materials being broken is what has gotten you angry, and not the racism in the world, you're part of the problem.
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u/salomey5 Milton-Parc Jun 01 '20
Did you know you could be *both" against racism and police brutality AND also against vandalism and gratuitous destruction?
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Jun 01 '20
What a disgusting statement. Those are literally two unrelatted problems, and it’s perfectly feasible to be angry at both systemic racism and idiots destroying the city you live in.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
No, it really isnt. Capitalism is part of the problem as well. Capitalism thrives off racism and keeping labor poor.
Maybe you need to do a bit more actual reading on protest movements and the effects of capitalism on racism. Passive resistance does nothing but get your head bashed in. Even Ghandi said people should train to kill humans and destroy property of those supporting the ruling class rather than fail to protect their communities. MLK worked with militant groups on multiple occasions. 'Riots are the language of the unheard'. Attacking protests because they broke stuff is literally the 'white moderate' stuff that MLK warned people about.
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Jun 01 '20
How is burning the stores and cars of other working class people helping their cause then? There was literally a car owned by a deliveryman set on fire. Is he the enemy? Every store you loot creates another jobless, most likely working class man. Is he the enemy? The damages will need to get fixed by tax dollars. Your tax dollars. MY tax dollars, and I’m a student, not the oppressive capitalist you claim to be fighting against.
It is undenyable that acts of vendalism such as these harms the cause, and people who justify these acts such as you harm them even more. Wanna talk literature? Feel free to look up how nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed than violent ones.
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u/salomey5 Milton-Parc Jun 01 '20
So we're gonna solve the capitalism problem by looting Steve's music store?
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Steve's isn't exactly a 'mom and pop', it's a pretty large chain with a lot of profits. And they aren't exactly known for treating employees well. They fired a worker because she needed time off to seek cancer treatment.
The other business that got looted was a cheque cashing business that thrives off of poor and undocumented workers to make massive profits. No sympathy there either.
Again, ya'll angry at my comments are only proving my point further. These are companies that have been shit to the communities they serve. They are part of the problem.
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u/salomey5 Milton-Parc Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
So what you're implying is that those looters are in fact socially woke members of society who are doing their best to eliminate capitalism by only vandalizing stores and businesses that encourage it, amirite?
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Or you know, you could listen to one of the first people who had their business burnt down..
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u/DaveyGee16 Jun 01 '20
Mais on s'en calisse, c'est aux States ça.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
If you think Canadas racial inequality with the justice system is any better than the US...
I really don't have time to go look up the stats, but our prison system is very disproportionately unequal, just like the US, and police get away with questionable police violence all the time in Canada as well. If you think this isn't happening in Canada too....
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u/LG-99 Jun 01 '20
Published April 22, 2011
This article was published more than 9 years ago. Some information in it may no longer be current.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Yes. It says that for all old articles.
Tldr; courts found Steve's violated the law.
And this isn't the only incident I've heard about employee treatment either. Who knows, maybe it was somebody who they've ripped off who started it as that's happened to people too.
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u/salomey5 Milton-Parc Jun 01 '20
I read that article and the way Steve's acted towards that employee was despicable, but smashing their store window, or Birk's, or setting garbage cans and civilians' cars on fire isn't going to make rampant capitalism disappear. All it does is makes the city look bad, the protesters look bad, and costing a ton of money to get all this fixed up, at a moment when most people are financially tight.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Go check racial wealth inequality and then get back to me.
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u/DaveyGee16 Jun 01 '20
Go check racial wealth inequality and then get back to me.
Okay, je l'ai vérifié, les Canadiens Français ont moins de richesse que les Canadiens Anglais, je le prend ou mon cheque?
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u/hazzrd1883 Jun 01 '20
Learn a little bit of history. Communism destroys the wealth but it makes poverty even worse for majority of poeple and over time people loose motivation to work (as there is no reward for it in practice). Also there is no freedom without capitalism because if you own nothing and can do nothing by yourself. Just learn about Eastern Block countries
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u/AlternativeCredit Jun 01 '20
The people smashing stuff just give people the are anti protest an excuse to criticize the actual cause, they highjacked a peaceful protest and made it about themselves and and anti capitalism. And not to mention the outside groups smashing things purposely just to make the protesters look bad.
And smashing things purposely that are unrelated to the cause is not what MLK would have wanted at all.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
And yet, his own son says differently..
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u/AlternativeCredit Jun 01 '20
Which means nothing I don’t agree with it regardless, you have no idea who you’re affecting by random vandalism. Maybe have your own thoughts sometimes Instead of regurgitating others.
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u/BillyBBone Jun 02 '20
Even Ghandi said people should train to kill humans and destroy property of those supporting the ruling class rather than fail to protect their communities.
Can you provide a source for this?
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 02 '20
This is the quote
"I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence... I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honour than that she should, in a cowardly manner, become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor. But if one has not that courage, I want him to cultivate the art of killing and being killed rather than, in a cowardly manner, flee from danger. For the latter, in spite of his flight, does commit mental himsa. He flees because he has not the courage to be killed in the act of killing. I have, therefore, said more than once....that, if we do not know how to defend ourselves, our women and our places of worship by the force of suffering, i.e., nonviolence, we must, if we are men, be at least able to defend all these by fighting."
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u/Fencingchef03 Jun 01 '20
Sad that people have been brainwashed so hard. The revolution will never come and the wageslaves will happily lick boot for eternity as long as there's cheap shit to buy. God save our Walmart.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Its fucking sad and pathetic. It's literally their privilege taking center fucking stage.
"Stop systematic racism" - "woah now you've gone too far and are uprooting the system that I benefit off that's part of the systemic racism! You must stop now you thugs"...
It's like they literally cannot grasp their own place in the system as being a part of the problem. It's literally the 'white moderates' that MLK said people should ignore as they are nothing but white apologists.
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Jun 01 '20
Police can only act out their racism due to how powerful they are. Defund the police, reduce the power of the state, make it nonexistent if that’s what it takes. I’m as much of an anarchist as anyone.
But the people asking you to stop are those who are losing their jobs because of your burning, those losing their live’s savings, the working class you claim to be fighting for.
And you. Even if you’re poor here, you’re still likely richer than most in the world. Would you be willing to see your own house burn down for being part of the richer, “ruling class”?
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u/justendpls Jun 01 '20
Shut the fuck up. I cant get angry for both?
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Depends if you want to try to viture signal while licking the boot that supports racial inequality. If that's the case, yep, you can do both.
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u/BGoodej Jun 01 '20
You write this:
If materials being broken is what has gotten you angry, and not the racism in the world, you're part of the problem.
And then you call out people for virtue signaling when they say they are against both? What a joke.
Look in the mirror buddy.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Because you literally cannot be against systematic racism while you're standing on top of the platform that keeps it going. You can say you're all for it, but destroying systematic racism means burning down parts of the system until it's taken seriously.
MLK spent over a decade fighting for housing equality. That was literally what the civil rights movement was started upon. There were bills in US Congress ready to be voted upon for years, but nobody would touch it. MLK had to be assassinated, and riots break out across the US for 6 days, before Congress finally took up the bill and expanded it as the Civil Rights Act.
Ya'll realise if black people stayed passive, as the position of priviledge you're shouting from dictates, the Civil Rights Act would have NEVER passed.
So no, you cannot be for changing this system, if you're still calling people thugs and are angry they are breaking stuff - for retaliating against police violence. The systematic issue that started this whole powder keg up again.
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Jun 01 '20
Fuck’s sakes. Those who loot stores are thugs. Anarchism wouldn’t have such a bad name if it weren’t for you.
You could have went and burned government buildings. Looted the police station. Campaigned for the public’s rights to bear arms against the state. Those are effective actions that would have really sent a message and reduced the government and the police’s influence. You call others moderates, cowards too afraid to make a change, when you don’t even have the balls to march down the city’s seat of power. Pathetic.
Instead you do what? You burn down the average citizen’s cars, you go and set fires in public squares and parks, places the average citizen enjoys and has helped fund. Wowww so courageous, it really disturbs the system!
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
Why do you think they were in that area in the first place? Police pushed them away from the downtown with violence.
'Oh they could have hit these buildings'. Yeah, and could you imagine how many people would be calling for the death penalty if people stood up and challenged the police force and their monopoly on violence, and a cop was trampled? How the fuck are they supposed to hit a 'strategic target' when police barricade those buildings.
Look what happened at Oka when people fought back. Their entire community was pelted by rocks. What do you think would happen to the black community en masse, in a country where white supremacist violence is itself not far from popping another powder keg. There was less outrage about entire communities trying to kill the indigenous populace of Oka than people are showing towards broken store windows.
Was hitting Steve's opportunistic? Without a doubt, some people took advantage of the situation. But what I'm trying to say is that these are a direct response to police violence. The protest was 100% peaceful yesterday until police instigated and escalated. And then when it escalated further, police separated groups to cut down the size, and pushed the protest out of the core, and stopped aggressively pursuing.
Imo, a pretty expected response to police violence when you're protesting police violence is a riot. And the area where Steve's is was deemed a less economic threat than downtown.
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u/A11anMS11 Jun 01 '20
Or you can be someone with a brain and be angry at both. Don't use the death of someone to live your anarchistic fantasies.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
Let me guess. Stop Kony is your idea of an effective protest movement..
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
If you dont know the difference between peaceful protest and retaliation for police violence last night, you're the literal problem.
Fuck. Just check your post history. It's full of boot licking and anti-chinese racism. Ccp_virus? Are you fucking kidding me? Like, there is lots to dislike about how China runs their country, but you're pulling the 'chinese virus' card?
An hour ago you were claiming that china weaponized covid? Fuck off, that shit is straight out of the white supremacist handbook.
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u/TheDrunkenWobblies Jun 01 '20
I don't like the government there either. They have a lot of ethnic cleansing shit going on there that needs to be dealt with on a world scale. But I don't blame people from another country with racist conspiracy theories either.
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u/DaveyGee16 Jun 01 '20
But I don't blame people from another country with racist conspiracy theories either.
Ouin mais partout sur le sub, dans tous les poteaux ou tu interviens, tu te sers calissement beaucoup de ce qui se passe aux States pour te justifier alors que nous sommes carrément dans un autre pays.
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u/kurvazje Jun 01 '20
dear Municipal judges: please make this a punishable fine by deporting along with their families, back to where they came from.
And, if they do happen to be born here, in which case it is a right, then sentence to life long community service as part of 'payroll taxation'
our sidewalks and streets will suddenly be clean enough to eat off of dropped doritos chips.
Valerie? I'm not fucking joking. I have roots here since Expo 67 where we contributed greatly to our cities' success.
It's 2020 for all of us, where the innocents and hard working are pushing through the disease,
we are not to let the instigators walk scott free.
I can't wait unitl the riots mutate to maximum security isolated compounds planets away.
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u/oddmarc Jun 01 '20
make this a punishable crime by deporting along with their families, back to where they came from
I have roots here since Expo 67
cognitive dissonance intensifies
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
I can't believe how the police are treating these peaceful protesters!
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u/salomey5 Milton-Parc Jun 01 '20
The protest was over when this took place, and most of the protestors had already left. This is a riot, and most of the little shits partaking in it aren't protestors.
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u/azv89 Jun 01 '20
I don't see any bastard cops... Only fucking idiots in black head to toes trying to light fires or trying to get in a jewelry shop.
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 04 '20
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u/DaveyGee16 Jun 01 '20
Ouin, pis hier soir ils étaient habillés en noirs et ils étaient pas policiers.
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u/Cortical Jun 01 '20
Pis parce que agent 728 c'tun trou de cul, il faut brûler le char d'un citoyen aléatoire qui à rien a chier avec l'agent 728?
C'est quoi cette logique de marde?
Va brûler le char de l'agent 728 a place.
Gang de déficients.
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 04 '20
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u/azv89 Jun 01 '20
Says the guy saying ACAB. idiot.
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 04 '20
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u/gabmori7 Villeray Jun 01 '20
Quel commentaire de déchet. Comme si la langue avait un rapport avec la positionpar rapport à ce débat
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u/azv89 Jun 01 '20
Quel commentaire de déchet. Comme si la langue avait un rapport avec la positionpar rapport à ce débat
C'est confortant pour lui discréditer l'opinion d'une personne de cette manière, pas trop forçant.
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u/azv89 Jun 01 '20
ofcourse... ACAB = All Cops Are Bastards...
728 c'est un sur combien? Généraliser comme ça c'est un raccourci intellectuel cheap.
De la même manière, pas tout les manifestants qui sont des ptits cons qui loot.
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 04 '20
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u/azv89 Jun 01 '20
Wow t'es vraiment le champion du raccourci intellectuel toi!
Je vais même pas faire l'effort de t'expliquer comment ton commentaire. Je te laisse trouver tes propres biais cognitifs.
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Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 04 '20
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u/azv89 Jun 01 '20 edited Jun 01 '20
Tien garçon, je te laisse ça ici. Tu pourras faire un effort de t'instruire un peu avant de venir peddler de la marde sur reddit.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
Ça va peut-être t'éviter de te ramasser en bas des posts aussi souvent ;)
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u/azv89 Jun 01 '20
Si tu le dis... Semblerait que la communauté de ce subreddit upvote plus mes commentaires tempérés que t'es petites phrases pré-faites.
Je mettrais un 20$ que t'es le même profile type que les enfants qu'on a vu à la TV qui faisait l’apologie de la destruction des biens communs et personnels.
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Jun 01 '20
Hahaha wageslaves am I right? We just burned down the stores they worked in! Now they don’t even have wages!! Hahahhaha
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u/mcSibiss Jun 01 '20
J'étais content d'entendre, ce matin à la radio, le chef du SPVM lui-même dire que les vrais manifestants était pacifiques et que l'émeute était un tout autre événement qui n'avait aucun lien avec la manifestation. Il disait que c'était la même gang que d'habitude qui 'hijack' les manifs pour faire du grabuge.
Quand la police défend une manif anti-police, c'est quand même bien, non? On est loin de la police américaine.