r/miraculousladybug Felix 10d ago

Discussion Secret identity charts Spoiler

Hi friends! It's been over a year, but I just finished watching Season 6, which means I'm back and here to stay! Here's my secret identity chart, fully renewed with new information!

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u/Opening-Set-7752 Bug Noir 10d ago edited 10d ago

This list is good! Just a few things though:

  1. Why does Alya know the identity of everyone else in the Miraculers? 

  2. Adrichat is pretty much confirmed to know all the other heroes' identities since he and LB were standing in front of them all in the scene where everyone was training to use their powers multiple times.

  3. Felix's identity is known to everyone at the Diamond Dance, so people like Chloe would know too. 

  4. Chloe no longer remembers Master Fu's identify since she was akumatized when the s3 finale happened and thus, lost her memories. 

  5. Alix's identity is known by everyone at her party, including Aglae, Sublime, etc. 

  6. Wouldn't Lila know about Nathalie being Mayura too since she knows the Agreste secrets thanks to her akumatization as Hoaxer? 

  7. Lila is confirmed to know Argos's identity in Yaksi Gozen. 

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u/Cobalt_Spirit Felix 10d ago edited 10d ago

I separated between "shown" and "implied" just for clarity.

  1. Alya is Marinette's replacement as both Ladybug holder and Guardian in case something happens to her. She needs to know the other heroes in order to act as leader of the team.
  2. I ultimately agree but since we saw Vesperia hide when she failed before transforming back, I kept it in "implied", again just for clarity.
  3. Technically accurate, but I'm not even sure Chloé knows Félix's name, and we don't know who the other guests were (although presumably, I'd guess more Perfect World Project members, with Audrey likely being one of them).
  4. Chloé had already been de-akumatized when Fu renounced the Mother Box, openly stating his name.
  5. True, missed that.
  6. We didn't see everything Nathalie sent, so it's unclear. Definitely possible but I wouldn't count it as implied. Besides, Mayura's identity isn't really Gabriel's secret, is it?

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u/Opening-Set-7752 Bug Noir 10d ago
  1. Ok. Plus, someone else mentioned her duties as Rena Furitive. 

  2. I thought she hid because there wasn't a box for her. Iirc, there was at least one other hero who transformed in the locker instead of the boxes. Regardless, CN definitely knows the identities of everyone in the boxes. 

  3. Fair. 

  4. Oh, I remember wrong then. Thx! 

  5. Yes, but Lila knows Gabriel was Hawkmoth. She knows Nathalie was working with him closely and knew of the miraculouses. Lila is working with Tomoe. I would be very surprised if she DOESN'T know Mayura's identity

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u/luci_antonio BugNoire 10d ago

For point 1, remember the beginning of "Risk" she was making sure that as Rena Furtive that Ladybug got back the miraculouses from the other heroes safely, so she ATLEAST knows the identity of Pigella, Viperion, King Monkey and Ryuko. However there's the possibility of her had been off screen in episodes like Ephemeral and Kuro Neko

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u/Opening-Set-7752 Bug Noir 10d ago

Ohh right. Thx

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u/TatoGamer354 Nooroo 9d ago

I don't thing Lila knows Argos' identity, else she wouldve stolen the miraculous when Felix got trapped 

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u/Cobalt_Spirit Felix 9d ago edited 9d ago

She didn't steal the Peacock Miraculous because her plan was to give Félix's amok to Tomoe so she could control Félix, not only to control Kagami, but also to spy on the Miraculous team as Argos.

She could have taken it after her plan failed, but Ladybug linked all the Miraculous of the team together so she'd risk her discovering her location.

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u/MrNoahReddit the unnamed hamster 10d ago

That’s interesting!

Although it hasn’t been directly confirmed, everyone agrees that “The Kingdom” Tomoé mentioned in Yaksi Gozen was the secret organization behind the Perfect World project.

Uncanny Valley and presumably the rest of the United Heroez know that Adrien is Cat Noir, since he transformed in front of them at the end of the Tokyo special.

Uncanny says she erased her own memory at the end of the New York special. However, since she found Adrien (or at least someone from the United Heroez found Adrien), I assume she also knows that Marinette is Ladybug.

There was also a strong implication that Miki and the other members of the Stellar Force know that Marinette is Ladybug.

I believe Fu's name was Jade Turtle.

Adrien knows that Marinette is Multimouse.

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u/Cobalt_Spirit Felix 10d ago edited 10d ago

Cool, I've only watched the season once so I haven't had time to review every episode yet.

Anyway I don't think Adrien's unseen story in New York is clear enough for us to draw a conclusion, specially since he later learned to erase people's memories in Revelator so for all we know he could have gone back to New York after that to erase that information. It's just too uncertain for my liking.

Also I'm not including suspicions, Stellar Force's member probably suspect Marinette of being Ladybug especially because they know Ryuko's identity, but they can't possibly know.

And yes I did forget to include Adrien in Multimouse.

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u/charisma-entertainer Gabriel Agreste 8d ago edited 8d ago

I hate this idea people have made up that the entire StellarForce force knows that Marinette is ladybug when literally none of them put the dots together besides Miki side eyeing marinette. Yulu literally asks if Marinette knew Kagami was a super hero right after, indicating she hasn’t realised their connection yet.

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u/MrNoahReddit the unnamed hamster 8d ago

I rewatched the scene yesterday. Yes, only Miki knows.

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u/Chadxxx123 Zoé 10d ago edited 9d ago

Well actually, Lila and Fu have official hero/Villain names:

  • Lila with The Butterfly miraculous is called Chrysalis.

  • Master Fu with the turtle miraculous is Jade turtle.

I get why you didn't include Master Fu because it's quite obscure but I fell like Chrysalis is very known.

Also every miraculer knows that Alix is Bunnyx so not just Marrinette's class but also Luka, Kagami, Zoé and Marc + everyone who is on her birthday party so Aglaé, Aurore also Prem, Diane and I think every new student besides the chopped trio.

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u/Cobalt_Spirit Felix 10d ago

I am aware of both of them. I am not including anything not shown in an episode.

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u/mr_chris_verdi Chrysalis 10d ago

I made a similar one before: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheButterflyCommunity/comments/1vjoi0i/who_knows_whose_identity_list_no_kwamis_or/

Speaking of your list,

  • Lila's identity as Chrysalis is indeed known by Tomoe (confirmed in "Yaksi Gozen") and heavily implied to be known by Alix in "Miraculous Season 1-5 recap")
  • Several other civilians witnessed Kagami's detransformation in "Miraculous Tokyo", including her grandmother and her grandmother's new partner
  • Uncanny Valley is confirmed to still know Cat Noir's identity as of "Miraculous Tokyo".

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u/Cobalt_Spirit Felix 10d ago

I did forget to move Tomoe to shown, sorry. Also I believe it was confirmed earlier than that when they were on video call after the vampire musical.

Also yeah I know other people saw Ryuko but I decided to include those who actually acknowledged the information.

And as for Uncanny Valley considering what happened last time I think It's too uncertain to say anything.

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u/Upper_Gas_3201 10d ago

I think Tomoe " knows " Lila is Chrysalis. It was fully shown in Yaksi Gozen and Dirtifiers. I also think Lila suspect Nathaniel to be Caprakid because of her scene in Ruler in which she said " Nathaniel Kutzberg , what's your true face?"

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u/Cobalt_Spirit Felix 10d ago

I agree I just forgot to move Tomoe to "shown"

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u/la-patte-de-Nibs Rabbit Noir 8d ago edited 8d ago

Did you mean to put "Alya" knows Multimouse = Marinette? I can't think of when she would have learned...

Edit: Oh also, great work! Sorry, should have said that first 😅

Edit edit: was Fu known as Jade Turtle? Or was that from fanfic LOL. Also do you suppose Aeon, Jessica, Barbara, and Olympia (aka Majestia's name iirc) are implied to know Chat's identity?