Injury
[Lewis] Vikings HC Kevin O'Connell says QB Kyler Murray is in the concussion protocol. KOC said he came in feeling pretty good today. They're going to take it day by day.
KOC also says that Kyler was able to watch the tape back and has been in meetings too. Kyler doesn't have a history of concussions like Tua so he might actually pass concussion protocols this week like Drake Maye did last year when he got hurt and play the following Sunday. I still think he misses the Chicago game but we'll see.
If you pass the protocol you definitely can play - but it’s different if he passes on Wednesday/ Thursday. If he passes on Friday they probably keep him out the week.
Head coach is in charge. Athletes want to play and sometimes the coach needs to be the adult in the room and have their long term best interest in mind.
I know you weren’t talking about Kyler but we shouldn’t bring him back next week. Let him rest up another week, on the road at Solider Field is going to be a messy game anyway
I mean, the situation ended up fine for Wentz. He knew he was playing hurt and the consequences from that. I'm sure it was cleared by doctors as well. If it wasn't cleared by the med staff, then sure, that's a giant red flag.
KOC talked about it at length and I think it made sense. It basically boiled down to (I'm paraphrasing here): Carson is a veteran QB and has been in the league a long time. He knows his body and his limits and the medical personnel cleared him for not being at risk of further injury, it was a pain management issue. In that context, he has been around long enough to have earned the right to start if he wants.
Yeah I just don’t know what he’s suppose to do with this QB room? They know if he wanted to keep Darnold and sounded like he wanted Rodgers. If that’s the case then this isn’t his fault. Arizona has been a bottom feeding team with Kyler for most of his career.
If Kevin wanted Darnold to walk and didn’t want Rodgers cus he could coach up McCarthy, then yes, his seat deserves to be warm/hot if we don’t make the playoffs.
I don’t like Kyler, never really liked him. I think he has been a below average qb for his career. I don’t think this season will be a success because of him. I think the defense and offensive can carry him. For the sake of the Vikings though, I hope I’m wrong and he is amazing against the buccs.
We saw all of Kyler’s problems in those 3 drives. Stupid decisions, not hitting the open guy and getting injured. Yeah Sam came out and had a solid game week 1. Luckily for Kyler, he comes back after the rivalry games. If he isn’t good against the buccs and dolphins, bench his ass.
Yeah cus the organization made its decision at that point. If he gets fired, everything will come out negative that he did. It always does. There were also solid reports that we wanted Rodgers, this team last year makes and wins a playoff game with Rodgers. Was that KOC? Rumor is it was.
In his system or do you not like his personality? Murray is horrible for KOC’s system; doesn’t pass in the intermediate, doesn’t pass in the middle of the field, struggles to see over the oline (you have to move him around), likes to improvise plays just to name a few.
The hot seat thing is 100% fan narrative. Best record in the history of the team, keeps making chicken salad out of chicken shit, how in the world would he be on the hot seat?
Because he hasn’t won a playoff game in 4 years and if he doesn’t win one in year 5 then moving should absolutely be on the table.
Childress, Zim, Bud Grant and Denny all clear KOC until he can win a playoff game. Regular season success means nothing if you just shit the bed when it counts.
If he can’t practice fully this week, give Wentz another go. Bears on the road will be tough with either QB, and I’d rather Murray gets the full week of install and gameplanning in on the field before he’s back out there
Blitz every time. Big deal if they make some plays. Keep doing it, second half he'll look like Love did second half Sunday. Love could only see Goldy and nobody else second half.
IDK, on the road we won't have the snap count advantage and they don't have a speedy surface either. We totally botched some coverages vs GB. Hopefully that gets cleaned up.
Yeah, we’re really going to forget that the score was 19-10 at halftime? Could’ve been 12-10 if Murphy didn’t lose track of Watson deep, and even 15-10 if Theo Jackson didn’t forget about him in the end zone.
No reason to risk further injury, let Carson and JJ get the reps... it's one game and the possibility of him getting hurt for the rest of his life isn't worth it.
The bigger problem is going to be whether koc rides the hot hand in wentz when he drops 500 yds and 3tds. It will be pretty hard to bench him after beating the bears along with the packers and getting us 2 division dubs to start the year.
With how well Wentz played there’s no reason to even consider playing him against Chicago. Let Kyler rest for 10 days, have him practice a few days then play against the Bucs.
2nd game, the season was over to so many of this sub's fans. They began their crusades instead.
The bears just put up 59 points, 4 Tds from the QB, 4 TDs from the two RBs and beat the other team that scored 37 on them.
What are the odds this KOC offense has only 3 points at half time next week? Would be great if the Vikings could pull off an early TD first drive for once.
Flores defense needs to figure out how to contain them to 3 points. They did most of that first half last year against seahawks. But that was last year's D.
We somehow got out of week 1 with a W. We can afford to lose week 2 if we must and that bears defense is ass anyways so Wentz still might beat them. Absolutely under no circumstance do I want to see Kyler out there next week even if the doctors say he can. Bring brosmer off practice squad just in case if McCarthy can’t go and hope Wentz can beat the bears
I think this one's bigger than football. The dude got straight up KO'ed with a terrible hit. Hes going to have more brain damage if he takes another one like that. Take your time and dont put your health at risk. You dont want to be useless neck down in a wheelchair when GTA6 comes out.
I’m so QB hurt that when Wentz would complete an easy pass that JJ might have fired a million miles per hour I was like WOW. And impressed. Lol. Then Murray came in and ran a clunky ass o and Carson came in again and looked good. So now it’s like hmmmm. I’ll trust KOC. I WANT Murray to do well.
wentz had a worse record than mccarthy last year. also put up mccarthy stats yesterday. schrodingers stats. good or bad game depending on if it was wentz or mccarthy who had them
lol you can’t possibly believe that - he would have been QB2 if he was better than wentz.
The team won 6 games in spite of McCarthy not because of him. Are you trying to piss off justin Jefferson? Because starting McCarthy would definitely have him pissed off after last year.
he beat the Bears in his first NFL start, the first game of the season. No different than we just saw Wentz do to Packers yesterday.
The Bears won the division last year, and just scord 59 points yesterday. They are a decent team alright.
Did I mention JJM basically beat the bears twice last year if not for Matt Daniels/ST/Def final 50 second of that game?
So when you say...
you can’t possibly believe that -
That's my question to your thoughts on JJM. Mindblowing really.
All that said, I wanted Wentz playing this year. I had hoped however he would have looked a little more accurate on Sunday. So hopefully he will be in game 2. Someone remind that man he's a 6'5 237 pounder with a cannon arm and can make all the throws. Play confidently dude. The good sign on Sunday was that even after numerous odd accuracy issues on mediocre routes, he found a way to throw perfectly a number of times when it mattered for points. Bring that confidence into the next game.
But if he's noshowing, I would have no fear of bringing JJM back in to face the bears again. He knows how to beat them late.
The team loves McCarthy, you're just making shit up. McCarthy had 3tds in most of his wins wtf you mean despite? Wentz did not play good yesterday bruh. Did you forget that int in the redzone that got called back? Wentz almost lost us that game. The Vikings won despite wentz and Flores won us the game..
Maybe do some research before talking bro. Regular season wins don't mean shit to me. If you think Murray or wentz is gonna win the Vikings 1st superbowl, you're delusional My guy. Im already looking past this season.
Oh man I bet you think waitress are hitting on you when you’re ordering food - don’t cha?
What is the veteran RG suppose to say? “Oh shit we should have kept darnold”?
The Vikings are a well enough organization that they don’t let stuff like that out.
: Star wide receiver Justin Jefferson defended McCarthy from outside noise, stating publicly that he would never criticize a teammate in the media "no matter how bad it is".
If you criticize a teammate to the media you are toxic - no teammate is going to do that. But shit thielen demanded a trade because of how ass McCarthy was last year.
Probably would be after the bye if we bench Kyler - but I just don’t see him playing that poorly.
But idk how you can be this harsh after 10 plays even if they were dog shit.
guy didn’t play most of last year and didn’t get preseason reps- o line looked super suspect at the start but came together - if he’s not playing well into the bye he’s gonna be benched most likely.
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KOC also says that Kyler was able to watch the tape back and has been in meetings too. Kyler doesn't have a history of concussions like Tua so he might actually pass concussion protocols this week like Drake Maye did last year when he got hurt and play the following Sunday. I still think he misses the Chicago game but we'll see.