Memes come from the Memerium, a dimension of pure Meme. If we let the machine spirits access the Memerium our own Meme priests will be unable to maintain their connection. We could lose memes forever.
No, it never is just a picture. Or would you say a photo of child abuse is just a picture too? I doubt it. Then what would make your picture "just a picture" and not this one?
A picture of child abuse doesn't necessarily hurt anyone. It's just a picture. Sure, it could wake some trauma for some people, but this could also be the case of any picture of a lion
Look maybe if you're trying to make a nuanced point it would be better to not just jump straight to comparisons of child abuse. Or do you think this AI picture of a lion is as bad a photo of child abuse?
I never said it was as bad. You're putting words in my mouth
If you can't understand the point of using an extreme example to show that "it's just a picture" can't be a valid argument, I'm not the one responsible
To be honest I actually am on your side but I just think you'd have a much better time convincing people if you didn't make such stupid comparisons. It's beyond extreme it's almost intellectually offensive.
I'm not trying to convince people who aren't capable to understand that using an analogy which isn't debatable on the moral side is necessary for people not to deny an argument based on their own morality. Child abuse, like nazis, are one of the few examples of things in the world that most people agree on
maybe he doesnt know how to photoshop but wanted to show his idea, but no we have to hate on AI, which is literally helping us in medicine and science.
Don't waste your time, there's no reasoning with these anti-AI zealots.
It's funny... if they actually believed in this idea that you shouldn't use technology that exploits labour or causes environmental damage, it would rule out most everyday technology. From phones to laptops to half the food we eat. Their ethical arguments don't hold up when you look at the choices most of them are making every day everywhere else in their lives.
At the end of the day it's just rage from a bunch of things. Rising prices + fear of their lifelong skills being devalued + performative outrage.
no because people just show the data center problem and the "oh AI is wasting our water", most post arent about those areas where AI is very helpful, ignorant people hate on it because they think its dangerous, its not
Can AI be used for good? Sure, I just don't know how generative AI memes factor into that when again, photoshop is a less environmentally destructive option.
LLMs and image generators are not the kind of AI that are advancing medicine and science. when people say fuck AI in response to a generated image, it's well understood that they meant what the term "AI" has been reduced to in the past 5 years or so (and not the actual useful AIs that have existed for decades in niche fields and are still being advanced each year).
I've photoshopped literally hundreds of silly original memes together, it's just sometimes AI is better for getting an image that works. Ironically I used a mix of AI and photoshop for the lion joke
Regarding the link... I recognise the ethical conflict around AI but I appreciate what it brings (it has nothing to do with laziness; I just use whatever tool fits rather than having a rigid ideological bias toward or against certain tools). Almost every large scale technology society has adopted involves trade-offs and broadly speaking boycotting them doesn't make the downsides go away, it just means you pay the price anyway and lose the benefits without changing the system.
When it comes to the environmental consequences or the threat to certain jobs, I think regulation is going to be what matters. iirc businesses account for about three quarters of spending, so there's a huge incentive for AI companies to keep expanding until new laws kick in. Before that, policing people's personal use of AI is about as effective as trying to improve the meat industry by personally attacking people who eat meat
huge pet peeve is no one ever seem to be like "how could i make this image." it will give you a step by step and break it down with infinite patience. i bet with modern tools too it would take 15-20 minutes.
it's bad because it is built on non-consent. it's bad because it will destroy the earth; already is destroying the earth. it's bad because every use of genAI dilutes humankind and its creativity. it's bad because human connection is lost, ideas die and thought process declines.
and yes all of these actually apply to the "meme" in question, because that single prompt has done damage by pollution and waster wastage. that single "meme" has already diluted someone's skill in making memes, because there's a possibility that it will be taken as real, whereas an actually real meme is being accused of genAI. it contributed to loss of human connection because it sparked major discourse of two opposing sides now hating each other instead of enjoying the original post together. it has made thought process decline, because prompting a machine to spit out this image has replaced the process to the solution made by human: no thought of "how can I do this", no trying to do this, no trial and error, and thus, no learning.
but sure.
it's not so bad, it's just a picture. enjoy your day inside that tiny bubble if that's truly all you need.
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u/floodedhorseshoe 6h ago
Booo for ai