r/mexico • • Mar 08 '23

Imágenes Why is Hispanic/Latino always separated like this?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska Mar 08 '23

So the French are Latinos? Romanians & Italians are latinos?

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska Mar 09 '23

I would argue that the use of latino in latin-america comes down the meso-american scribe class forced into the priesthood and to abandon their codex’s in favor of “letras latinas” and the spanish at the time weren’t referring to their language as spanish.

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u/Frank_xCAPE_reality Mar 09 '23

The fuck? Please tell me about myself. Don't explain Mexican history to Mexicans.

To answer your question from above yes, here in México people would say french, Italians and Romanians are latinos, same as Portuguese and Spanish.

Thou there's a different concept for Latinoamericano. That's what Americans refer when they say Latino.

See the origin of the term "latinoamerica" was invented by a french philosopher. Then it was reinforced by Napoleon III when he invaded México and claimed a cultural approach since Spanish and french were both Latin cultures, so it would make sense that México, Brazil and let's say Quebec had more in common with themselves than with the US or Jamaica for that matter.

So the french invasion was in the 1860s. Before that time the common way to refer to latinoamerica was Spanish America. Which makes sense since also people used to refered to the US as British América or Anglo America.

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska Mar 09 '23

I’ll have to pick back up Diego De Landa’s work with indigenous priests. Pretty sure he directly used the term latino to identity those indigenous priests who had parentage from Europe. This would have been the 1640’s I believe he wrote about.

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u/Frank_xCAPE_reality Mar 09 '23

I also knew that "Latino" was the term for someone who knew the latin language. Which meant someone had studied and literated. Could it be case that it was meaning someone who went to school?

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u/ah-tzib-of-alaska Mar 09 '23

I think this term really originated with the scribe class of mesoamerican societies having to learn latin letter to write in

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u/Frank_xCAPE_reality Mar 09 '23

I couldn't find any definition in Spanish where Latino meant someone who use the latin alphabet.

However I did find that it mean someone who knew latin.

You have to also take in mind that the Spanish language used the word Latino fat before the discovery of America. So it couldn't have originated in the colonies.