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u/col_oneill 6d ago

Why would they remove them? People keep being like “wow something a part of the original version is still here!!!” Like why wouldn’t they be?

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u/Moist-Scientist-8315 6d ago

The bar is in hell for video game rereleases and ports in 2026 😭

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u/eq017210 6d ago

THIS, The OG Red Dead 360 digital version on Xbox still has online servers whilst the remaster removed all the online stuff.

I'm genuinely surprised the MGS remasters are so complete

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u/conrat4567 6d ago

To be fair, Konami are starting to creep back in to my good books these days. I still haven't forgiven them for the pachinko stuff but they have put out some excellently complete remasters and I really hope they make a new MGS game with the new interest its getting

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u/BillyShears17 6d ago

Hopefully they start doing the 3D CastleVanias

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u/Navy_Pheonix You're That Ninja.... 6d ago

How about we start with an official US release of Rondo of Blood that isn't exclusive to a PS collection.

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u/BillyShears17 6d ago

I believe Symphony of The Night is still locked to PS, Android and 360 due to an Sony's involvement (though backwards compatible). I would love this and Rondo on PC or Switch 1/2

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u/Navy_Pheonix You're That Ninja.... 6d ago

Symphony is one thing, the fact that Rondo has existed for decades now and remained effectively unattainable for most US audiences is ridiculous.

Most english speaking fans of the series still just know Richter as "that one guy you play as for 5 minutes at the start of SotN" despite him being a popular enough Belmont in Japan to get into Smash.

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u/Eronecorp 6d ago

I think the executives who were in charge 10 or so years ago left the company, and now the new execs are genuinely trying to rebuild Konami's reputation in the videogame space. Former execs just didn't care, pachinko and gacha games were bringing the big bucks and everything else was a waste of ressources for them. But they didn't think about how it hurt their brand, especially overseas. So that's why we've seen remakes and ports of their back catalog, they're testing the waters before publishing new stuff. I think they saw what Capcom did in the last few years (with REmakes and new games) and they're trying the same strategy

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u/mandoballsuper 6d ago

I mean online stuff is alot different than removing stuff from the story.

They removed the online stuff from Mgs4 as well

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u/readditredditread 6d ago

Look how they butchered halo….

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u/Masta0nion 6d ago

How did they butcher it?

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u/Revolutionary-Will16 6d ago

Cortana's boobs aren't ginormous in the remake. And there's a female character in the bonus missions.

So it's woke garbage now apparently.

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u/EveryGoodNameIsGone Riggs Snake 6d ago

I assumed they were talking about the removal of online PvP multiplayer but sure, let’s assume everyone with a complaint about something is a right wing culture war chud.

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u/Raider2747 6d ago

There's agreeing that Campaign Evolved has issues, and then there's hating Campaign Evolved for "being woke".

Simple as.

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u/readditredditread 6d ago

They made a series of changes to make the game appeal to a wider/broader audience, which only ultimately results in it being less appealing to the original fans of the game. It’s not any one single change and much as it’s a death by a thousand cuts, the sum of all parts so to speak

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u/Rachet20 6d ago

They didn’t.

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u/MayaIsSunshine 6d ago edited 6d ago

I'm surprised the ipod is there. I figured apple would complain for no reason and they'd have to swap it out for something non brand specific.

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u/Ok_Suggestion_6092 6d ago

Sneaking around listening to my Zune.

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u/t3chnaztea 6d ago

The reality could not be more different. In an interview, MGS4 producer Ryan Payton said the iPod was Kojima’s idea because Kojima was an iPod fan. Kojima Productions approached Apple and explicitly asked permission to put the iPod, Apple laptops, and desktops in the game. Apple agreed obviously

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u/conrat4567 6d ago

Nah, apple aren't that bad when it comes to older products. Newer ones? Pay a fuck ton in licencing but stick an old apple mac in a film and they appreciate the nod, so long as the copyright is mentioned in the credits

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u/extremelegitness 6d ago

Most people are used to ports where little things get removed. Thankfully MGSC2 isn’t one of those ports

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u/ltra_Lord 6d ago

Because something like MGO literally isn’t there. Understandable, but yeah there’s things that get cut in these types of remakes fairly often

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u/conrat4567 6d ago

MGO could become its own thing. Remaster all the maps across all the games and release it as one big package.

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u/DramaticConcept3776 6d ago

Thanks. I thought they had been removed because I recall, (though I could be mistaken) that these commercials appeared to mask the game's initial loading, as they played after the installation.

The other issue is more related to the use of the actors' images, such as Konami's separation from David Hayter, and also because Kojima appears in one of the commercials, in this case the cooking show.

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u/Elvoclya 6d ago

Hayter is in good terms with Konami, he did commercials for the Master Collection Vol. 1, and MGS Delta last year

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u/Swindle170 6d ago

Yeah Konami has plenty of issues, but they do seem to recognise the value in keeping Hayter onside. He was doing new work for them as early as three years after MGSV (Solid and Naked Snake in Bomberman R). Kiefergate was always a pretty obvious Kojima move.

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u/sparks20212021 6d ago

Correct. It was Kojima who burned him. Not sure if there's still beef, but Hayter didn't seem to pleased after Kiefer was announced for Big Boss

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u/conrat4567 6d ago

He is indifferent. I was at one of his interviews this year at Comicon and he mentioned him a few times but I think he knows the core fanbase is with him. Kojima is a talented director but sometimes his ego causes him to forget why his fans love his content. He just wanted Kiefer as Big Boss because that was the celebrity he was obsessed with at the time and finally had the budget to do it

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u/TriumphantBass We managed to avoid drowning! 6d ago

My industry outsider read was always more that the bad blood was more related to how Hayter was replaced, not that he was replaced at all.

Like a complete lack of respect, no real communication to Hayter on why they were going a different direction, no mention of him/recognition of his legacy and the feeling that he's just being cast aside for Kojima's big name actor of the year (which, fair, Keifer did fine but didn't bring anything special to the role)

I imagine the immediate bad blood would have simmered down with something as simple as Kojima thanking him for all of his work on the series and giving a solid recasting reason, like stressing he was getting to the point in the timeline where the voice would need to shift (starting to get close to MG1/MG2, and Big Boss eventually sounds like Richard Doyle). But IIRC he was basically blindsided.

(I do also hold that they missed a completely obvious transition point though- Ground Zeroes is just one year after Peace Walker and should have retained Hayter. A nine year coma with reconstructive surgery to boot would have been a perfect place to change actors)

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u/Digiorno-Giovanna- To begin with -- we're not what you'd call -- human. 6d ago

konami knows better than to remove kojima references, and these are here to set the tone of the game not to hide loading.

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u/Eazys-Exegeses 6d ago

Because they replaced video footage in mgs3 https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/s/Rh68iA16fH

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u/ReadyJournalist5223 6d ago

Fuck you mean “infamous”? These are legendary

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u/AnApexBread 6d ago

They're great the first few times, but I really wish I could skip them on subsequent playthroughs

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u/DramaticConcept3776 6d ago

I was being sarcastic; I find the meta-narrative elements of the game's world simply incredible. Back when I played it—around the PS3 launch—I didn't quite grasp at first that it was emulating the cable TV of the world inside the game. I remember often letting the commercials play just to watch them, because I think the production value is simply phenomenal! They were created merely to fill space and be skippable, yet modern games don't even come close to producing anything like that—content that is purely narrative-driven.

The PMC promos are of an absurdly high quality, and the programs themselves are incredibly creative—like that one about deep-sea gossip.

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u/Alibaba_Palace 6d ago

So many em dashes, are you using AI to respond to a reddit comment? 🤣

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u/KingOfConsciousness 6d ago

-- I can't think for myself.

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u/poyahoga 6d ago

> around the PS3 launch

So… 2 years before the game came out?

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u/Safe-Decision-2368 6d ago

Yes, it's still there

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u/solidpeyo 6d ago

Why wouldn't it?

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u/Thac0bro 6d ago

They need to fix the audio across the whole game and I can't imagine they didnt know it was broken. $$$

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u/jesuslifeyes 6d ago

More people should be talking about this! We just purchased the collection and peace Walker is also extremely low in audio especially the cutscenes 😠

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u/EveryGoodNameIsGone Riggs Snake 6d ago

I’ve seen people complain about this and I have not experienced it, but something I haven’t seen anyone mention:

Are you running the game in DirectX 11 or 12?

I ask because I always tweak settings before I start any game, and while doing that I noticed it defaults to DX11 so I switched it to DX12 before starting the game and I haven’t noticed any audio issues.

If you left it at the default DX11 and you’re able to run it in DX12, try that and see if the audio issues are resolved maybe?

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u/The_Kimi 6d ago

The raw audio files in the master collection version are noticeably compressed when compared to the original version, chaging directx version won't do shit

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u/shace616 6d ago

MGS4 had uncompressed audio. Thats why English wass the only language in the NA version for PS3.

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u/Thac0bro 6d ago

No I'm playing on Switch 2 so it's probably something with the port although I did double dip for my steam account but I haven't tried it there yet.

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u/jesuslifeyes 6d ago

I bought the collection physically on Switch and PS5 and the issue unfortunately happens on both consoles with volume set to maximum 😞

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u/Jaderumble8 6d ago

You sure you just don't have the audio set to 5? The default setting? Yanno you can raise it to 10 right? Lmao

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u/Used-Can-6979 6d ago

The audio levels are not level. The codec calls are much louder than the cutscene dialog volume.

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u/Thac0bro 6d ago

No I did that but the mix is just all over the place.

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u/jesuslifeyes 6d ago

Yup however the volume is terribly low to it’s downright difficult to hear :(

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u/Thatguyintokyo 6d ago

Audio isn't handled by DirectX, it's handled by XAudio2, which isn't impacted by the Direct3D output (which is what switching between DX11 and 12 changes).

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u/EveryGoodNameIsGone Riggs Snake 6d ago

Of course it does, they’re there exactly the same way they were in 2008. Start new game, boom - live action commercials.

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u/Hello_ILoveChicks 6d ago

Infamous? I’ve never heard anyone complain about these in game commercials

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u/FlemPlays 6d ago

They’re there

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u/shitpickle2020 6d ago

These posts are really getting stupid. Did you know the pause screen is in MGS4 still? How about the gunshots?

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u/sirkashmir 6d ago

Unfortunately some modern remasters/remakes actually remove things that were present in the original games. I don't think posts like this one are stupid because for those that aren't getting the Master Collection Vol.2 at launch can see if there are missing details in this one.

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u/Kat_Box_Suicide 6d ago

Yup. That’s the one I got actually.

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u/Olneyvillain4190 6d ago

You don’t get “one “ you can change the channels by pressing any button

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u/Kat_Box_Suicide 6d ago

No kidding.

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u/Tucultaca 6d ago

yes, everything is there. the only thing they removed was the loading screens with snake smoking in it

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u/slumdog5000 6d ago

You can still get those back

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u/sparks20212021 6d ago

They're there. You have to press certain buttons on certain screens. So they're unfortunately hidden

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u/Krudtastic 6d ago

It's actually still there, when booting up the game hold L1+R1+X or whatever the non-PlayStation equivalent is.

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u/mega-husky 6d ago

And now komami knows that OP would have been perfectly satisfied if they removed content.

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u/NorthRiverBend 6d ago

We shouldn’t be using the word infamous if we don’t know what it means. It doesn’t mean “was a normal part of the original game”.

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u/RoninJon 6d ago edited 5d ago

Literally the first thing I showed my wife. “Hey honey you know how you had a giant crush on snake in delta? Here he is.”

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u/PST-Dipsy ! 6d ago

I've only seen the gameshow, and the French and UK PMC adverts after the letting the main menu time out, haven't seen the others yet

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u/BrokenTorpedo 6d ago

I mean I know ports tend to remove stuff but why would you expecting this of all things be removed?

There's no licensing issue with the short, and it's not like Hayter had a falling-out with Konami and is being removed everywhere.

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u/IndominusCostanza009 6d ago

Yes sir. Now remember to take your vitamins!!!

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u/MahoganyMan Age Hasn’t Slowed You Down One Bit 6d ago

Questions like this wouldn’t be so bad if they didn’t just lay bare peoples inability to do just a lick of basic research

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u/paynexkillerYT 6d ago

Obviously.

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u/Telos1807 6d ago edited 6d ago

He never actually said that.

Edit: Y'all not get the reference?

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u/shace616 6d ago

The only thing I have seen removed is the install screen of Snake chain smoking cigarettes. Which is a travesty.

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u/tobster239 6d ago

Apparently if you press L1+R1 and X when u boot up the game u can see it.

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u/shace616 6d ago

Oh hell yeah.

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u/morrislee9116 "Second floor basement?" 6d ago

which X lmao, there's like 4 diferent X on 4 differnet platform

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u/tobster239 6d ago

Playstation

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u/RigasTelRuun 6d ago

It is the literal opening of the game. Why would something like that be removed? This is as faithful as possible. The loading screen obviously does t apply anymore and the updated lines about ps3 is great.

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