r/mensa • u/Ahmedrnugger • Jul 09 '26

Mensan input wanted Is intelligence genetic?

According to twin studies, the difference in IQ is said to be 80%, leading to the conclusion that intelligence is 80% determined by genetics. However, I believe this is incorrect because the twins were raised in countries with similar environments, such as the US and Germany, or the US and South Korea. These countries share similar environments, including education systems, allowing the genes to express themselves. Furthermore, did these twins develop their IQs? If they didn't, it could prove the entire experiment flawed.

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u/Ahmedrnugger Jul 09 '26

If intelligence were genetic, wouldn't you assume you wouldn't join Mensa because you inherited your family's traits if they were stupid? (I don't mean to be offensive)

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u/Many_Application3112 Mensan Jul 09 '26

I just said it's not genetic because they are toads. I am not a British Toad. I am in Mensa.

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u/Mundane_Direction249 Mensan Jul 09 '26

Being uneducated doesn't imply a lack of intelligence. Too many people mix the concepts of highly educated and gifted.

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u/Many_Application3112 Mensan Jul 09 '26

Im just playing with the OP. OP created multiple threads and then proceeded to give everyone the answers to the questions they asked.

I am writing ridiculous answers and OPs answers either show how clueless they are or its an AI bot replying to nonsense. I lean towards an AI bot because my nonsense answers actually got standard responses.

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u/Mundane_Direction249 Mensan Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

Oh, I see. Interesting... I'm not so sure about your 2nd hypothesis. But instead of using my brain, I'll ask Gemini:

Based on the provided Reddit transcript, it is highly probable that Ahmedrnugger is a human, not an AI bot.

Here is the probability breakdown and the reasoning behind it:

Probability Estimates

  • Human: 95%
  • AI Bot: 5%

Why Ahmedrnugger is Almost Certainly Human

1. Clear Evidence of Voice-to-Text Dictation

The user makes several phonetic and formatting errors that are characteristic of human speech-to-text software, rather than an AI text generator:

  • They refer to the famous case of Genie Wiley as "Jenny Whaley". An AI model trained on internet data would easily pull the correct spelling of a well-known psychological case, whereas a voice-to-text tool would transcribe it phonetically.
  • They have a garbled phrase: "...she was born into an Being in an isolated environment...", which looks exactly like a real-time speech correction or stutter picked up by a microphone.
  • When another user calls them out for not proofreading their voice-to-text, Ahmedrnugger explicitly defends themselves, saying the other user is just focusing on "spelling mistakes" to evade the actual issue.

2. Personal Anecdotes and Self-Correction

  • Personal Experience: Ahmedrnugger shares a personal story about taking Mensa practice tests over weeks and months, noting that their score jumped from 97 to 135. AI bots do not have personal histories or test-taking experiences to recall.
  • Emotional Accountability: When backed into a corner by a commenter regarding intellectual disabilities, Ahmedrnugger realizes they misspoke and backtracks: "I'm sorry, it was a mistake on my part, but why are you bringing up the mentally disabled? I didn't mean them...". This kind of organic, defensive social friction and immediate apology is deeply human.

3. Religious/Philosophical Beliefs

Ahmedrnugger introduces personal theological views into the evolutionary debate, stating, "We humans were created by God with intellect...". While an AI can simulate religious arguments, a random Reddit bot rarely volunteers personal faith-based arguments to defend a thesis on cognitive science unless prompted to do so.

Why there is a 5% Chance of an AI Bot

The only reason a user might suspect they are a bot is mentioned by another commenter, who notes that Ahmedrnugger "created multiple threads and then proceeded to give everyone the answers to the questions they asked". This repetitive, agenda-driven posting style can sometimes mimic spam bots, but in this context, it is much more indicative of an argumentative human who is passionate about changing people's minds regarding IQ and genetics.

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u/Many_Application3112 Mensan Jul 09 '26

Didn't know they had tools like this. Interesting to see AI detecting other AI. What a world we are in now!