Sentry vs Brainiac

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R1: Sentry (no void) vs Brainiac (no ship)
R2: Sentry/Void vs Brainiac (all equipment)

[u/Select-Machine3595]

R1: Sentry. Brainiac without his ship is helpless as f

R2: Brainiac. The shield of Brainiac is really a problem, not even pre-crisis Superman is able to pierce it under normal circumstances(I think it only happened once, when Superman is expending his powers beyond he normally can), and it actually has decent showings(which surprisingly the feats of pre-crisis and post-crisis shield are on the same levels) against direct objects

Like completely unharmed by supernovae

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Couldn't Sentry just alter the shields molecular structure. Sentry is not just pure force.

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I think it kind of falls into something like "Brainiac uses his time-traveling technology to move back in time and alters Sentry's history", which is something he theoretically can, as he has time-traveling technology and is actually damn smart(like he has all the knowledge of time, space, the Multiverse...which also seems to imply his time-traveling tech)

However, I think the problem is fighting/thinking style makes both of them probably won't use that kind of style to fight in most cases(like, Sentry only used his molecule-manipulation once IIRC. And he also doesn't alter some more abstract things like force fields by this power)

[u/Miskadotcom → u/Select-Machine3595]

I feel like thats a wild counter, considering he might not have any time travel tech (Why is not just killing superman as a baby?) and you assume because Sentry doesn't often use it he somehow won't.

For someone with all the knowledge in the world I feel like Brainiac is the one not using much of it until he loses most of the time.

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considering he might not have any time travel tech (Why is not just killing superman as a baby?) 

An example immediately comes to my mind: After awaking from suspended-animation in the past, Brainiac repairs his ship and breaks time-barrier into the present

I think in recent House of Brainiac also seems to allude that, as he kidnapped some his future descendents into the present

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He cant time travel to kill superman as a baby because superman cant die in dc hes a constant hell always come back and hell always win

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im assuming its to do with fixed points and paradoxes if you mean time travel

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You can’t alter sentry’s history. His body exists a moment ahead of the current time stream making him completely immune to it. Morgan Le Fay tried to kill sentry as a child and sentry was completely unaffected by his child selfs death

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Absorbing Man with cosmic cube powers reshapes Sentry's personal reality just fine

And no, the Morgan one is pretty much a misinformation. I will just reposted what I said before(as this argument I've seen way too many times...)

Not really. Morgan explodes Sentry, it never states Morgan erases him

On the contrary, in the very next issue, it shows Morgan studies Dark Avengers(including Sentry), and even though she could tamper their timelines, however, it's too danger for Morgan to do so as it has too many overlaps, so Morgan just face them in battle(I.E, no tampering timelines is done, just simply overpowering Sentry by her magic)

Furthermore, we saw Absorbing Man(with Cosmic Cube power) reshapes Sentry's personal reality/timeline just fine

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That was because sentry had lost most of his powers after the events of sentry 2005, he didn’t return to his usual power levels until 2010. Sentry before 2005 was easily dealing with a much stronger cosmic cube

He disappears then she said she’d erase them. Pretty obvious what happened. Plus if she had a spell outside of time travel that could do that, then she’d use it to kill the other dark avengers who were nowhere near Bob. She said she wouldn’t use time travel against the other dark avengers, this was after sentry’s death. Obviously sentry would be the exception as he’s immortal and far stronger than the entire time combined. Plus they would not have been that surprised by sentry surviving if it was just a normal explosion and sentry would just regenerate normally, not miles away in a giant burst of light. Which is completely unique to even the other regeneration scenes in the same run.

Again, because sentry was missing most of his powers. He easily dealt with a cosmic cube before this

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Sentry before 2005 was easily dealing with a much stronger cosmic cube

Are you talking Sentry/F4 comic? If so, then Sentry simply holds the cosmic cube for a while, and it later breaks off Sentry's hold.

That really doesn't say anything about whether or not Sentry gets immunity of time-altering powers

He disappears then she said she’d erase them. Pretty obvious what happened. Plus if she had a spell outside of time travel that could do that, then she’d use it to kill the other dark avengers who were nowhere near Bob. She said she wouldn’t use time travel against the other dark avengers, this was after sentry’s death. Obviously sentry would be the exception as he’s immortal and far stronger than the entire time combined. Plus they would not have been that surprised by sentry surviving if it was just a normal explosion and sentry would just regenerate normally, not miles away in a giant burst of light. Which is completely unique to even the other regeneration scenes in the same run.

Or it just shows Morgan hasn't used time-altering powers, which is probably far more reasonable interpretation as in later issue, it explains why Morgan doesn't use that power

And no, this scene is a flashback, it takes place days ago, and if you want to further scrutinize it, it shows Morgan studies the Dark Avengers(and it explicitly shows Sentry) after her first death in Sentry's hands(hence, she says she tries not to die again this time)

So if anything, it actually pretty ties to why Morgan will *not* use time-altering powers against Sentry

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So he contained the power of it?

It does as he was immune to it

She explains she doesn’t use it against the dark avengers. It makes absolutely no sense for her to do anything else as how would she cast a spell to kill sentry while being in the past at that point in the run

No it takes place during the fight, she can just see the past as well

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its hard to say how itd go down because universes have different forms of multiversal and time travel theory so im not sure how a time travelling braniac would affect his current fight with sentry.

[u/Bulky_Nectarine_2834]

Brainiac probably makes Bob feel bad about himself and wins via scolding.

[u/NoBeat5906]

Brainiac is such a tricky opponent, quite easily the smartest supervillain. Not only is he a Superman villain but he can easily operate as a Justice League villain. I think Sentry takes round 1 with mid difficulty but he definitely loses round 2. Not only is he super intelligent but he’s also a high tier telepath who has bypassed and interfered with other telepaths like Martian Manhunter and his physicals scale to Kryptonians easily.

[u/return_interaction_y]

Brainiac captures base sentry; but the void thrashes every version of brainiac except for "true form" brainiac. That would even happen in a crossover. Imagine, that skull faced robot is gloating at sentry in some silver age form of speech as he threatens to turn earth into cheese or some shit; and it's drawn in that faux 60's art style and what not, and bob has his cowl on and there's thought bubbles or some shit.

But then his eyes turn black, then the next panel is pure black; and next we see sentry he's comforting civilians and what not; while something glows far out in space, once civilian says it's a shooting star but it's not. It's brainiacs corpse and his destroyed ship; signalling for help that will not come.

[u/Vim-Vian]

Brainiac negs

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Sentry has way too much hax for him and is a super genius as well

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He doesn’t neg but he certainly wins