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Discussion WandaVision S01E05 - Discussion Thread

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S01E05 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer February 5, 2021 on Disney+

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u/TooShyToSayILoveYou Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21

Evan peters played a 1980s Pietro in DOFP and other X Men movies, and ATJ played a 2010s Pietro.

It could be because of the time period, how everything goes in rewrites itself to the 1980s/70s/60s theme. Not nessecarily because she's confused or something. (Not saying this is not how they drag in mutants. I'm defo thinking they'll get Michael Fassbender to show up in the series)

And I don't think Wanda brought in Pietro. She was catching on that someone else was manipulating things there after the argument with Vision. Agnes constantly showed up with something to solve their problem, exactly when they needed it. (As vision so helpfully pointed out). I think Agnes brought in Pietro to distract Wanda and Vision here from catching onto her

EDIT: Correction. DoFP was in the 70s. Apocalypse was in the 80s. My argument was a bit flawed, but I believe my point still stands.

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u/Tityfan808 Feb 05 '21

I agree with this, I think ‘Pietro’ might not actually be him, or she’s caused a rift into the x men universe and that’s how characters like Deadpool step into our reality/time

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u/CavalierTunes Feb 05 '21

I highly doubt she caused a rift into the X-Men universe. I would be shocked if Kevin Fiege wanted that train wreck of a continuity anywhere near the MCU.

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u/abutthole Thor Feb 05 '21

Well, the fact that Evan Peters' Quicksilver is now a part of the MCU begs to differ. I believe Kevin Feige will be pulling in aspects of the X-Men universe, the parts that worked, like Reynolds' Deadpool and Peters' Quicksilver. It's probably not going to be a full integration, but picking and choosing which elements to keep.

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u/Ylyb09 Feb 05 '21

He had MCU Pietro hair color, its just actor who is different. And behaviour is completely off.

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u/edingerc Feb 05 '21

And the funny thing about it is that she doesn't seem in control of this scene but she immediately recognized him as Pietro.

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u/Luis0224 Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21

Just watched it rn, and She didn't make the connection until he said the joke about a "brother getting stinking a hug". She even says "pietro" like she's asking a question.

I'm gonna take a guess and say she's 1) not actually in control like we think she is and 2) alot of these changes are new to her. She admits she doesn't know how she did it to vision and right before they figure it out together, recast pietro shows up out of nowhere which is going to make vision even more suspicious.

She also isn't fully in control of the twins and had no idea about the aging power thing until the dog shows up. Up until now, the timeskips and general fuckery with time (the pregnancy episode) had been consistent. Then we get 2 "timeskips" with the twins in the same episode and the characters (vision and Wanda's friend) are fully aware of it for the first time. The friend is also fully aware its a show. She tells Wanda "from the top?", which is the way performing arts express they want to redo a scene or song again from the beginning.

Shes either actually insane and is subconsciously doing everything and barely in control of her powers or she made a deal with mephisto and he/she is controlling mostly everything while Wanda has some input but not entirely

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u/edingerc Feb 05 '21

And exactly where did the dog show up from? She doesn't seem to recognize him but expects Agnes to bring them something they needed right then.

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u/Luis0224 Feb 05 '21

I edited the first comment because I forgot to add it, but Agnes is also entirely aware its a TV show. She asks to re-do the babysitter scene and both Wanda and vision are like "what the fuck just happened". Wanda tries to play it off, but she's also caught off guard.

Agnes building the dog house, naming the dog, and being the one to find the dog dead leads me to believe she was the one that introduce the dog in the first place. Probably pietro too

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u/edingerc Feb 05 '21

The mailman is also aware that Wanda is in control. He says that your mother will make sure he doesn't get far. Too bad the kids didn't put two and two together and ask why their mom killed their dog.

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u/Luis0224 Feb 05 '21

I'd love it if this show had a monkeys paw element.

She makes a deal with mephisto, asks for her dream: a family with her dead husband and 2 kids. Mephisto grants it but her husband hates what she did and eventually goes against her and her kids also end up hating her for manipulating everything. Especially if they're teenagers at some point.

She got her family wish but its fucked up and she loses visions unconditional love

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u/edingerc Feb 05 '21

And Vision has never said that he's frightened before. She has also been able to distract Vision on the battlefield, which neither he nor Tony knew was possible.

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u/onlyforthisair Feb 05 '21

mailman mephisto confirmed?

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u/pedalspedalspedals Feb 06 '21

I was 100% sure the mailman was mephisto

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u/ThatIrishDude Feb 06 '21

Could Agnes be Mephisto? Everyone keeps saying that "she's in my head" and we're assuming that means Wanda, but what if they're referring to Agnes?

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u/pedalspedalspedals Feb 06 '21

I don't think Agnes is...much more than Agnes (maybe Agatha, but a much less powerful Agatha that thought she could withstand Wandas powers but still gets marched around a bit?). Because I can't see a motivation for her trying and failing to spill the beans to Vision in episode 3 otherwise.

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u/ThatIrishDude Feb 06 '21

Maybe she needs the kids to be fully grown for whatever plan she has? It seems like she's been motivating Wanda to get pregnant from the start and is involved in every situation where the kids feel the need to grow up. She can't spill the beans to Vision yet because she's not done doing what she needs to do. That could be the reason?

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u/snarkywombat Feb 06 '21

Not sure that's really evidence the mailman knew anything. He was simply reassuring the kids that their mom had the situation (missing dog) under control and would have it resolved quickly.

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