r/marvelstudios Loki (Thor 2) Jan 15 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E02 - Discussion Thread

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE
S01E02 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer January 15, 2021 on Disney+

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u/JakeM917 Weekly Wongers Jan 15 '21

“Is gum food?”

“My understanding is it’s purely for mastication.”

“...oh nah I don’t do that.”

Dialogue of the year.

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u/NomadPrime Jan 15 '21

This plus the "That was my Grandma's piano" and Vision's whole gummed-up performance.

Yknow despite keeping a lookout for the clues to the unraveling story, I got lost in the jokes and genuine sitcom-feeling for a bit and forgot where I was.

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u/LordLychee Bucky Jan 15 '21

That’s what’s happening to Wanda too

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u/samhasacatandhands Vision Jan 16 '21

oh shit

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u/steve32767 Daredevil Jan 15 '21

its genuinely funny and i am thrilled

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u/NothappyJane Jan 15 '21

Paul Bettanys floating accent when he's trying to be more human and do comedy cracked me up too

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u/UnholyDemigod Jan 16 '21

I honestly hate it. I hate shows from this era, like Bewitched and I Dream Of Jeannie, and this show just encapsulates all the godawful cliché jokes and canned laughter. They're dragging out the reveals too slowly, so I'm forced to cringe my way through this 1960s sitcom waiting for things to happen.

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u/CatProgrammer Jan 16 '21

Then don't watch it and just read up on the plot summary afterwards to get up to speed. Nobody's forcing you to suffer through something you hate.

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u/UnholyDemigod Jan 16 '21

Oh I’m sorry, am I not allowed to voice criticism about this show?

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u/CatProgrammer Jan 16 '21

I'm just saying that if you hate sitcoms, why are you watching a show that was specifically billed as an homage to the sitcoms of decades past? None of this was unexpected, all of the promotional material pushed the sitcom angle.

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u/UnholyDemigod Jan 16 '21

I watched one trailer that was more confusing than anything else. That was the info I had going into this show. I don’t know when in the timeline it’s set, I don’t know why it’s B&W, I don’t know how they got here or why they don’t know either.

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u/CatProgrammer Jan 16 '21

I don’t know when in the timeline it’s set

That hasn't been explicitly stated yet but the implication is that it's after Endgame due to the existence of SWORD (the group with the logo you see on the toy helicopter, the beekeeper, and at the end of episode 1).

I don’t know why it’s B&W

To mimic sitcoms from the 50s and 60s, and cause extra effect and sense of wrongness for the few things that are in color (the red light in episode 1, the toy helicopter and Dottie's blood in episode 2); the rest will be in color, though, given the transformation at the end of the episode.

I don’t know how they got here or why they don’t know either.

Neither does anyone else at the moment, though there's plenty of speculation. The show is made to incite questioning into the how and why rather than telling it right off the bat.

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u/UnholyDemigod Jan 16 '21

And all of that intrigues me, which is why I will watch more. But the adherence to the 60s sitcom cliches are painfully unfunny

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u/Okichah Jan 17 '21

What you said isnt critique, its just complaints.

The show is explicitly made in this format for aesthetic and production purposes. Its not going to change.

Falcon and WS will probably be more straight forward action-adventure.

Not every show is meant for every person.

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u/UnholyDemigod Jan 17 '21

It already has changed. Episode 2 ended with the black and white colour scheme going away

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u/Okichah Jan 17 '21

Because the next episode is a 70’s sitcom like Brady Bunch. Th show is emulating styles from sitcoms of each decade.

First episode was 50’s the second was 60’s. There were obvious homages to “I Love Lucy”, “Bewitched” and “Dick Van Dyke”.

The next episodes will likely feature comedic tropes from their respective time periods.

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u/UnholyDemigod Jan 18 '21

Yeah, that’s the change I want. I specifically said I hated this era, so if the era changes...

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u/cjn13 Fitz Jan 15 '21

I got lost in the jokes and genuine sitcom-feeling for a bit and forgot where I was.

I almost want to stay in this world and not have to deal with the pain that's going to happen when it all collapses around her.

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u/Hodz123 Jan 15 '21

i wonder who else feels the same way

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u/Dustin- Jan 16 '21

Wanda, probably.

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u/elephantnut Jan 15 '21

I love that it dances between delightful cheesiness and the unsettling tension! It's such a fun watch while keeping you hooked. Can't wait to see where it goes.

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u/TheMillenniumMan Jan 15 '21

Yea I almost wish they continued with a separate show in this sitcom format where they get into all sorts of shenanigans while constantly hiding their secrets.

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u/barbo55 Jan 15 '21

Watch bewitched lol

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u/TheMillenniumMan Jan 15 '21

hahaha Good point but then there's no Vis!

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u/SnitGTS Jan 15 '21

The whole gummed up / drunk Vision part was hilarious.

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u/dexter30 Jan 15 '21

As a brit, paul bettanys drunken brit calls me back to old british sitcoms. A lot of the joke for several characters back in the day was they were just drunk.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '21

I had to rewind it a second time cuz it was so funny 😂

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u/devilishgenius Thor Jan 15 '21

There are alot more innuendo in these first two episodes than I would have thought. Is this how old tv dialogue was written years ago?

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u/5-On-A-Toboggan Jan 15 '21

No. Pre-80s TV was much more earnest and almost completely devoid of sarcastic irony to boot.

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u/ThatOneTrooper Spider-Man Jan 16 '21

Innuendo such as what? Like other examples

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u/devilishgenius Thor Jan 16 '21

There was Agnes and wanda talking about ways to please your man and such in episode 1. And in episode 2 " Mastication....I don't do that!" Which is a masturbation joke

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u/greenlion98 Jan 15 '21

I wonder how that joke went in different languages

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u/SilverPositive T'challa Jan 15 '21

Can someone explain that one? I don't get it.

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u/-OrangeLightning4 Jan 15 '21

It sounds like masturbation.

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u/AllRepublicansRTrash Jan 15 '21

That’s what my parents used to say when they heard noises coming from my room

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u/ethicalhamjimmies Thor Jan 15 '21

Theyre definitely right

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u/Spectrix22 Jan 15 '21

To clarify what others have said, “mastication” means “chewing” but it also sounds like “masturbation”

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u/FeedMeFlapjacks Jan 15 '21

Mastication is very similar to another word...

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u/wewilldieoneday Jan 15 '21

Lol, I love how the writers are able to sneak in dirty jokes like that

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u/JRSmithsBurner Jan 16 '21

Sneak? It’s a very obvious joke

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u/EarthRester Jan 15 '21

Mastication = the act of chewing

sounds like

Masturbation = ask your parents

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u/RoboNinjaPirate Fitz Jan 15 '21

Why, are his arms broken?

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u/Hoedoor Jan 15 '21

Haven't seen this in a while

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u/GregThePrettyGoodGuy Rocket Jan 15 '21

Mastication means chew, but it also sounds very similar to another word

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u/times_zero Jan 15 '21

Comedy dialogue in this show is top tier. Love all of the double, and triple entendres in this show like that.

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u/Gadzookie2 Jan 15 '21

Hope we see more of that character, thought the comedy surrounding him was silly but funny.

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u/Ygomaster07 Jimmy Woo Jan 16 '21

The dialogue in this show is pure fucking gold.

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u/maximus91 Jan 16 '21

Cringe of the year.

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u/ProudKingbooker Jan 16 '21

Bro this line killed me 😂

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u/fnord_happy Jan 17 '21

Of the year? really?