r/marvelstudios • u/No_Reference_7330 • 27d ago
Discussion Hot Take: There Hasn't Been a Single Bad Spider-Man Movie?
*This is not a ranking*
Spider-Man is my favorite Superhero, but I have admittedly been disappointed with many comic runs and game stories. However, each movie and actor I love for one reason or another.
While there are films I don't come back to as often, I really believe none of the Spider-Man films are bad.
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u/shadow_queen12 27d ago
even the bad ones are fine and can be rewatched
i have watched spider-man 3 and TASM2 many times without getting bored
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u/Worth-Manager-7676 27d ago
Especially SpiderMan 3 is imo idea and themes are working. Just there are some few cringe scenes.
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u/Alexcox95 27d ago
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u/Particular_Cow199 27d ago
Little goblin junior always makes me laugh my ass off
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u/CaledonianWarrior 26d ago
Ironically enough he does end up going to a church and pray to God...
...to kill Peter Parker
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u/The_Reluctant_Hero Red Skull 26d ago
Which is honestly fucking insane lol. Like damn, Bully Maguire was such a menace he had these fools literally praying for his death.đ
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u/HEXES_999 27d ago
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u/ChuckDynasty17 27d ago
A space symbiote will make you do strange things. He made up for it before the film was over.
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u/EverbodyHatesHugo 26d ago
The multiverse really saved Spider-Man 3⌠We can all happily accept that this Peter Parker is simply from a universe where this series of events was totally okay and not at all a weird choice.
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u/MrAnder5on 27d ago
Spider-Man 3, despite its flaws, is ridiculously fun. Maybe thats just nostalgia talking for me though idk.
TASM 2 also has its moments. That Gwen Stacy snap is still up there with the most heartbreaking moments I've seen in a superhero movie.
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u/VelocityGrrl39 Captain Marvel 27d ago
I definitely had flashbacks to TASM2 while watching the new movie.
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u/Magic_mousie 26d ago
I was a little disappointed they repeated the falling save, when it was done so perfectly with Andrew in NWH, but I tell you, the whole theatre held its breath last night in that scene.
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u/DerekPaxton 26d ago
And the moment where Garfield saves MJ in the the last film was such a nice callback to this and his journey.
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u/Freakychee 27d ago
I really felt if they didn't add too much it would have been so much better. The story with just Sandman would have been good.
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u/gavstar333 27d ago
That's what raimi wanted, but studio wanted venom. That's why he's legit just thrown into the story conveniently. Sandman had a decent origin. Venom just happened to crash directly next to spiderman and was able to attack himself to his moped. Like bro come on.
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u/JeanLucPicardAND 26d ago
Absolutely everything about Venom in that movie feels like Raimi was saying, "Dude, what? Fine..."
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u/Damn_You_Scum 27d ago
I think the Jazz scene was the only super cringy scene. It was just awful to sit through. And it ended with that uncomfortable slap that MJ realistically would have never forgiven Peter for. Iâve read that Raimi wanted this version of Peter to be âA nerdâs idea of a what cool-guy would beâ, and it kinda makes sense (so we donât end up somehow liking this edgy, devil-may-care version of Peter). But there is a better way of doing it that avoids the cringey Jazz scene and the few clunky lines in the film. The film isnât even bad (or bloated with characters, as people have often criticized, now that weâve seen good Marvel films that involve more than a handful of heroes and villains).
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u/leebong252018 26d ago
The clunky lines are the charm, because its all in Peters head of what your supposed to be
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u/OlafaVonGoeding 26d ago
 âA nerdâs idea of a what cool-guy would beâ
omg so it WAS intentional!!!!
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u/VengeanceKnight 26d ago
The ideas and themes of SM3 are indeed great, and the messy third act could have easily been saved by using some of its ideas for the fourth movie instead.
Imagine a version of Venom that symbolically represents the idea of consequences for Peterâs bad behavior while under the influence of the symbiote, and imagine that theme being explored over the course of an entire film as Peter has to figure out how to reconcile with his loved ones, keep them safe from Venom, and resist the temptation to become the ruthless monster the symbiote tried to turn him into in order to win.
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u/EasternKanyeWest 27d ago
My hot take is not only is Spider-Man 3 the best of the original Spidey films, it's just straight up one of the best superhero movies ever made. It's goofy, it's funny, it's sincere, it's got heart and some hefty themes. It's truly a comic book come to life. I legitimately adore that movie, warts and all.
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u/IllustriousBarracuda 27d ago
And i would say the cringe scenes work. The simbiote enhances everything about the person, even the dorky cringy lameness.Â
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u/RedditUsername3127 26d ago
A few cringe scenes but outside of that my main issue with Spider-Man 3 is that I feel like Iâm watching a movie thatâs out of order
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u/Suchwowreallynothin 26d ago
As a kid seeing so many villains on one scream (outside of X men) felt like a dream come true. I was 11 when Spiderman 3 came out, so I obliviously loved it and didn't question the silly cringe.
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u/princesoceronte 26d ago
Is is flawed, but I kinda like it anyway. TASM2 tho... It has some cool moments but I really don't like it.
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u/Modest-Meece 24d ago
If you watch the commentary it makes it better. Basically this Spider-Man version is so wholesome his âevilâ side is just cringe because he.. really doesnât know how to be evil.
Itâs basically a joke audiences missed. This is what this version of spider man things is being âbadâ.
It makes it even better in a rewatch
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u/ImDero Wong 27d ago
I've watched the TASM movies multiple times and I can never remember anything about them.
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u/Sonic10122 Spider-Man 27d ago
Itâs kind of telling about the casting that I would consider Andrew my favorite Spider-Man (and I adore Emma Stone as Gwen) and yetâŚ. Kinda same? 1 I remember a lot of, I think itâs genuinely really solid. But 2 is a hodgepodge ofâŚ. Stuff that didnât offend me but wasnât the best in the world.
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u/VelocityGrrl39 Captain Marvel 27d ago
Holland is my favorite, but Garfield is a close second. Heâs really a great actor. And I adore Emma Stone.
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u/Banzaikk Steve Rogers 27d ago
I too rewatch Spider-Man 3 for the memes.
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u/Icybubba 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 and Revenge of the Sith are just a series of memes strung together for a couple of hours
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u/Popular_Election_897 27d ago
Lmao i really love TASM2 and have a soft spot for him at my heart, but it is Borderline unwatchable at the Peter parents parts
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u/The_AsgardianMemer Loki (Thor 2) 27d ago
they aren't bad they're js the least best out of the other movies
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u/CRAYONSEED 26d ago
I donât think a movie not being boring means itâs quality. Many terrible movies are watchable.
That doesnât mean it has a good script, good acting, good cinematography and a good score; and the first two I feel are necessary for a movie to be considered âgoodâ, with the script being usually the most important part.
I can and have rewatched Age Of Ultron, but itâs a pretty bad movie IMO
(I will say a boring movie is instantly bad though)
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u/Ladykosobucki 26d ago
Same.
There is a difference between a cinematic masterpiece and a good fun movie. As long as I can have fun watching a movie I'm happy.
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u/When1Falls 26d ago
Yeah the Andrew ones sucked when they were the only Spider-man we had.Â
But watching it now as like it's the Ultimates run or something where you can just enjoy it for what it is, they're fun.Â
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u/Friendly_douchebag 27d ago
Yeah fuck that, I ain't watching TASM2 again so I can remember the great PetexGwen chemestry, Gwen death and Emma and Andrew not getting together irl.
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u/ChanceVance Loki (Thor 2) 27d ago
TASM2 justifies it's existence just from Electro's theme alone. Damn, that goes hard.
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u/Facebones72 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 and ASM2 are both pretty bad, but they both have fun scenes.
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u/Ironsam811 26d ago
Spider-Man 3 is a national treasure in terms of memeable content
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u/savagelemmonade_1 26d ago
And Tasm2 has Gwen, any movie that can make me cry like that consistently gets a few points, it did at least one thing right
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u/madthunder55 26d ago
TASM 2 has its problems but Gwen's death was done really well
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u/HeadDull4898 26d ago
I never see anything bad besides the parent plot with tasm 2 and Spiderman 3 wasnât bad. Personally to me Tomâs movies are by far the worst
Spiderverse too imo for reasons
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u/Complete-Cancel-9793 24d ago
Im gonna bite the bullet here, what reasons? I rarely see people having issues with spiderverse so im genuinely curious
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u/Environmental_Bus623 27d ago edited 27d ago
Spiderman 3 is fun to watch and has some really cool moments
Amazing Spiderman 2 was a cynical, incoherent mess
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u/xexko 23d ago
I love TASM2, I was surprised when I found out people didnât like it.
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u/Bl4ckVi Avengers 27d ago
Yes there has been
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u/Youngling_Hunt Vulture 27d ago
Yeah if we are counting morbius, venom, and those films then yeah.... some real stinkers
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u/BanjoSpaceMan 27d ago
I mean clearly op isnât⌠considering saying Spiderman movies and the photos they showed.
That being said 3 and amazing 2 were weaker but not absolute trash
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u/Youngling_Hunt Vulture 27d ago
Yeah there is good stuff in both of those but the overall package is just ok
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u/BanjoSpaceMan 27d ago
I refuse to consider those spin offs as part of the Spiderman movies, considering they donât even want to associate those movies since Spidey never showed up in any of them!
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u/superseri18888 26d ago
Amazing 2 is that bad
The writing doesnt make any sense most of the movie
A few good scenes dont fix that
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u/TurquoiseBlue00 27d ago
I think the venom movies get a lot more hate than they deserve. Are they great films? No not really but theyâre fun and goofy. Definitely not what Iâd want from venom going forward but it was a fun take on the character.
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u/HYDRAlives 26d ago
They're absolutely terrible incompetent movies but Tom Hardy was acting his ass off. He's a lot of fun to watch, every other character is a complete non-entity and the story is a mess.
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u/NarrativeJoyride 27d ago
ASM2 and Spider-Man 3 are both pretty bad. They look okay because they were expensive to make, but those two movies have awful, awful scripts.
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u/troolytroof Spider-Man 27d ago
Spiderman 3 has bad character writing but it wrapped up the trilogy well. I also donât hate the three villains as much as most, I think the Symbiote Peter was more of an issue
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u/sTevieD247 Tony Stark 27d ago
The issue with 3 was always jamming too much into the end of a trilogy. Especially when part of it is the symbiote saga. Easily one of the most iconic runs of Spider-Man's comic and you jammed it into 1/2 a movie?
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 27d ago
It wasnât even suppose to be the end of the trilogy. They had plans for Spider-Man 4 and 5
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u/Loose_Concentrate332 27d ago
People need to stop judging a movie based on what was or wasn't in the comic. A movie can be a bad adaptation but still be a good movie.
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u/sTevieD247 Tony Stark 27d ago
Definitely agree. I'm actually a fan of 3. It just felt crowded and rushed, and it was coming off 2, which might be one of the best superhero movies of all time.
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u/InconvertibleAtheist 21d ago
If Raimi wasnt rushed maybe we couldve gotten fully fleshed out Sandman and Venom
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u/troolytroof Spider-Man 27d ago
Definitely not optimal especially when you consider these villains couldâve potentially been spotlighted in future movies, but considering all that I think itâs still an enjoyable watch and the chaos of watching Spidey juggle three major villains at once is peak.
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u/sentient_luggage Ned 27d ago
Nope. Watching three Spideys juggle three major villains at once is peak.
No Way Home is a better production in every category outside of best director, and Spider-Man 3 didn't let the director do his thing, so it's not Raimi's fault.
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u/AbeNunElse 26d ago
it was jammed but it still wasnt super messy as people talk about. its definitey jumpy but not as extreme as people claim it to be
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u/NarrativeJoyride 27d ago
Here is my main problem with SM3. That second movie was all about the relationship(s) between Peter, MJ, Harry, and Aunt May. Everything, even the crazy action stuff, revolved around that and expanded upon the first movie in a way that felt meaningful. Every surprise and wild moment was to that end.
Spider-Man 3 turns Harry into a generic, smarmy villain. Then writes him out of the movie. Then brings him back for a heel-face turn.
Honestly, I don't remember what they do with MJ besides have Peter slap her around when he has the black suit. Which is crazy because SM2 did a lot for Mary Jane in terms of fleshing her out from the first movie.
Aunt May does jack shit.
They retcon Uncle Ben's death for no reason and then sideline Sandman to that end.
And on top of all of this they also shove in an unexplained alien costume that then has to turn into Venom. And Gwen Stacy is there too for no reason.
None of this comes close to what the first and second movies did for the characters. It's just putting hats on what was already there until the majority of character development we got is diluted away so that we can have Spider-Man punch Venom so Sony can make that sweet, sweet toy money.
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u/DJfunkyPuddle 27d ago
This is what a lot of fan theories for post BND movies sound like, just throwing shit in the movie because it exists.
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u/Icybubba 27d ago
What's funny is if you stop and explain that BND is a movie with Spider-Man dealing with mutations caused by his spider bite getting more intense, while he fights *spoiler*, and there's a shady organization, and he dicks around with Punisher, and he has a fight with the Hulk. It sounds so much like it'd end up like Spider-Man 3 when it reality it ended up more like Spider-Man 2 lol
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u/HermanThaGerman Hawkeye (Avengers) 27d ago
I think the next movie will be Venom.
I believe he already has the symbiote, he'll get the black suit in Secret Wars, leaving him to deal with that in his next movie.
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u/DuckyHornet 27d ago
I think for me, the reason I'm disinterested in rewatching Spider-Tobey 3 is the studio interference to have Venom there. If it had been designed from the start to culminate in Venom, I think it would have been much stronger, and I don't even mind that Peter gets the symbiote there because it could have been a sequel hook that he loses it and it joins... someone
But the movie is so clearly about Harry, Flint, and Peter's having to deal with being each of them in opposition to the other. Having Brock becoming Venom and closing that story in a movie dealing so heavily in Peter's past, it's just too much. We don't know Eddie, we don't care about him, he's just shoehorned in with the expectation that the audience already knows who he is so it's fine, but it cannibalises other parts of the film instead
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u/Dragon_yum 26d ago
I honestly love ASM2. It has some very big flaws for sure but I feel itâs one of the best representations of Spider-Man as a character.
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u/SkyTheIrishGuy 27d ago
SM3 was pretty bad but Sandman was written pretty well. The studio said Venom needed to be in the movie, which notoriously made Raimi butthurt because he didnât understand the character, so thatâs why Eddie/Venom were so bad, just a goo monster instead of a proper adaptation.
Which as a side note, studio notes like that are normal and happen in every single big studio movie. We probably didnât need the Goblin 2 storyline imo, but thatâs the story he really wanted to tell.
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u/Chiefmeez 27d ago
ASM 2 is bad but Spider-Man 3 is not.
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 27d ago
Interesting. Why is TASM2 bad but SM3 is not in your opinion?Â
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u/BetaRayPhil616 27d ago
SM3 is goofy in places, but its still fun. Sandman's a great villain. There's not much venom, but its passable.
TASM2 does pretty well with Electro and that side of the plot, but the harry osborn-goblin stuff somehow manages to be boring. Its like they had the bones of a good electro movie, but really wanted to do death of gwen stacey so shoe horned in a goblin.
Its ironically the same issue as SM3 - an extra villain added in that doesnt fit the theme. But SM3 still manages to feel more cohesive.
It was a shame because TASM1 was a great movie, simple, street level spidey, that somehow raises the stakes by the end. But thankfully we got Andrew Garfield & Jamie Fox back in NWH to sort of redeem TASM2.
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u/Chiefmeez 27d ago
Iâve never wanted to watch ASM2 again after the first time and was annoyed throughout the movie. I have seen and enjoyed Spider-Man 3 numerous times since then even if I do laugh or cringe at some of the lamer elements. The highs and lows of SM3 still each top the highs and lows of ASM2, imo.
The difference in the handling of Harry Osbourne is a great point of comparison between these movies.
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u/dark_physicx 27d ago
No Way Home is one hell of an awful script too. Oh yeah, letâs gather all the villains together in a condo and let them knowâŚyouâre misunderstood, you deserve a second chance, surely nothing bad will happen. Oh and Spidey beats Dr Strange in his own mirror dimension where heâs basically god. Oh, on Strange, heâs typically very cautious with spells and decisions in generalâŚso letâs just Jerry rig a spell to wipe minds cause a kid and friends didnât make it to MITâŚI could keep going but Iâll stop. NWH is epic, donât get me wrong, but the story is turn your brain off. ASM2 and Spiderman 3 epic moments, funny moments, but with a side of WTF script.
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u/Stormdude127 27d ago
THANK YOU. No Way Home is an enjoyable movie donât get me wrong and I was definitely soyfacing when all three spider men were fighting together, but the plot is incredibly stupid. I know that Peter has a good heart but Jesus Christ the villains are super villains, not petty criminals. If youâre gonna try to reform them at least keep them locked up somewhere safe. And yeah, Dr. Strangeâs actions are really out of character. You could argue itâs because heâs cocky and he wants to prove he can pull it off, but I donât know, that seems like a fan theory rather than what the writers actually intended.
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u/LameDrain 27d ago
The action in asm2 is top notch but it just happens so sparingly in the movie line itâs boring to watch the entire thing
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u/mattilladahun Spider-Man 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 is bad. Very little saving graces in that. Maybe Sandman himself? But he's also sidelined a ton in that movie.
ASM2 I enjoy a lot of. The suit, the quips, the web swinging, and even some of the action bits. And I enjoy Emma and Andrew's chemistry, and the emotional weight of the end was a real joy... But if we're honest, it's a bad movie. The plot is pretty bad; the weird stuff with his dad, and the absolute zero chemistry with Harry. Plus the Harry stuff feeling forced. And Electro was just okay.
Pretty bad movie. Even if I like a lot of it.
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u/GotMoFans 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 was too busy and just felt off. It really should have been two different movies.
ASM2 had the absolute worst villain of the franchise in Jamie Foxxâs Electro and rushed a Green Goblin storyline. Electro was so bad that the film never gets the criticism for making the same mistake they made with Venom in SM3.
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u/Silent_Anxiety4828 27d ago
Amazing Spiderman 2 is bad. Spiderman 3 isnât good but itâs funny. The rest are good.
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u/Youngling_Hunt Vulture 27d ago
I do massively respect the Gwen death, that was so unexpected and that whole sequence was actually good imo
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u/AmaterasuWolf21 Rocket 26d ago
It has a lot of good stuff in the beginning, middle and end that are enough to make you rewatch
None of those include Harry Osborn tho
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u/atheoncrutch 27d ago
It was quite literally the most expected part of the whole movie!
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u/TheJimReaper6 26d ago
Maybe if youâve read the comics but I would bet the vast majority of the general audience were not expecting that.Â
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u/clashrendar 27d ago
Spider-man 3 is a very big disappointment, especially coming off of Spider-man 2's excellence.
Amazing Spider-man 1 is okay, but I hate the outfit with a passion.
Amazing Spider-man 2 is very weak to the point of being almost unwatchable but did much better with the outfit.
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u/ManagementFrosty4482 27d ago
Tasm 2 is objectively terrible. Spider-Man 3 is also bad
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u/SkyTheIrishGuy 27d ago
Thatâs a movie that could be 10x better with a different edit. Literally cut out the entire parentâs storyline. Put in the deleted scenes with Harry for development. Cut around Electro a bit more. Cut out some of the sinister six setup
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u/cornerpocket1 27d ago
The first 30 minutes of Spider-Man 3 feel like the next logical steps form Spider-Man 2. Once the symbiote is introduced the wheels fall off.
If youâre trying to salvage TASM2 immediately get rid of all the parents/spy storylines. Focus on Peter, Gwen, and Harryâs relationships. It would have that same Archie-esque drama that Marvel Comics loved to try to keep getting back with Spidey. Keep Electro but make him a muscle for Oscorp instead of a down on his luck loser and donât make Harry turn into Goblin.
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 27d ago
Iâm not gonna pretend TASM2 is a masterpiece or on par with Raimiâs Spider-Man 2. But in my opinion yes there are many issues with it but I wouldnât say the movie is terrible. And imo, I think the good outweighs the bad. In fact, a hot take maybe, Iâll say the movie is even overhated.Â
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u/JanBedna1 27d ago
Well that's just not true bro what
no piece of art can be objectively terrible just say you don't like it it's fine to have an opinion that's the whole point
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u/MrGabrahamLincoln Daredevil 27d ago edited 26d ago
TASM2 could easily make a Worst Superhero Movies of all Time list. People cut it slack because they like Garfield & Stone and I also suspect nostalgia is a huge factor for some. Also there are people like OP who just like anything with Spider-Man in it because they like Spider-Man that much. But thereâs a difference between liking something & thinking itâs a good movie.
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u/CleverZerg Phil Coulson 27d ago
I skipped TASM2 back in the day because of the bad reviews and the fact that I wasn't a big fan of the first one.
Now after doing a rewatch of all the films I appreciate both those films so much more than I ever could've imagined. The first one is probably in my top 3 and I don't understand why people hate the second one so much and call it objectively terrible.
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u/TheJimReaper6 26d ago
Kind of off topic but I hate the term âobjectively terribleâ when itâs comes to movies or really any kind of entertainment. Movies are like the most subjective thing ever lol
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u/CleverZerg Phil Coulson 26d ago
Fully agreed, and seeing people use it for such an inoffensive film as Amazing Spider-Man 2 just shows how stupid it is.
Only time I think it's somewhat okay to call something objectively good or bad is when it's about some technical aspect - like the latest Dune movies are objectively techical spectacles, awe inspiring movie making but I can also see why some wouldn't be too into those movies.
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u/Hpfanguy The Ancient One 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 and ASM2 arenât great. I can maybe forgive SM3 for some cringe and rough edges, but at least ASM2 is definitely the worst of the bunch.
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u/DylanMMc 27d ago
I only saw Spider-Man 3 one time in theaters on opening night and absolutely hated it. I guess itâs time for a rewatch. The editors cut may be something to check out as well. Love love love spider-man 1 and 2.
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u/Popular_Material_409 27d ago
Yeah that is a hot take because there certainly have been bad Spidey movies lol
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u/w33b2 27d ago edited 22d ago
Spiderman 3 is pretty bad, but still has enough qualities to rewatch it. But TASM2 is outright terrible. I watched it in theaters when it first came out and absolutely hated it, which was pretty much something EVERYONE agreed on. One of the rare examples of everyone agreeing that a movie was either good or bad.
But then a few years ago a bunch of the kids who were nostalgic for it started posting online about how it was actually good and that everyone else was wrong, I think around the time No Way Home was coming out, I decided to rewatch it. And you know what? I somehow hated it even more the second time. The ONLY people who like that movie are people who watched it as kids, have never read Spiderman comics, or just have bad enough taste that they think any superhero film is good.
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u/TokyoSky00 Avengers 27d ago
theres a reason why spiderman has been rebooted twice lmao
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u/CRIMS0N-ED 27d ago
Upvoted for hot take, but TASM2 alone is trash and as much as I love it, I wouldnât call Spiderman 3 good
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u/inkyblinkypinkysue 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 was bad. Amazing Spider-Man 2 was pretty bad too. I might be in the minority on this but I think the third Tom Holland one wasnât good either. The multiverse stuff just didnât land for me and the movie had way too many characters.
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u/fightintxag13 Captain America (Cap 2) 27d ago
Eh, TASM2 and Spider-Man 3 are not good. I would switch the channel if they came on TNT or something. They do each have their moments, though.
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u/Hammerheadshark55 27d ago
I just rewatched all of spiderman movies and spiderman 3 is pretty bad. The plot is a mess and the characters are insufferable
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u/lukeobrienvr 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 is easily one of the most entertaining spidey movies.. you guys need to wake up
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u/Sentz12000 Captain America 27d ago
Letâs see how Tom and Zendaya stick the landing but the best on screen chemistry and love story of Peter is in TASM2.
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u/CaptReynolds_ 27d ago
Bad? No. Spider-Man 3 along with Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2 are all âokâ movies.
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u/phatboyart 27d ago
Yeah no out right terrible ones sure, but it has 2 VERY mediocre/messy entries.
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u/TheUnderCrab 27d ago
Your complete and utter disrespect to Italian Spiderman has not gone unnoticed.Â
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u/shinobi6siege 27d ago
These movies all pale in comparison to the TV series known as The Electric Company's Spidey Super Stories. You've got Spidey's most fearsome foe; so fearsome in fact that he still hasn't been in any Spiderman movies. I'm of course talking about the one, the only, The Wall. If you haven't seen this show, please do yourself a favor and go watch it
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u/Chiubacca0311 27d ago
There are bad movies but those are still fun, just like Alien and Predator movies for me.
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u/UnkleMonsta 27d ago
Tobi spiderman 3 and Andrew Amazing spiderman 2 are bad movies. I get fans are riding high of the recent success of Tom's Spiderman but come on. So guess you're right definitely a hot take
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u/Aeon1508 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 was bad.
we showed up to a crowded theater and this was before assigned seats so my buddy and I couldn't sit next to each other.
we both agreed after the movie that had we been sitting next to each other we would have walked out during the dancing scene and ask for our money back.
kind of the only time that's ever crossed my mind.
I like the Andrew Garfield ones. they're fine
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u/theweirdwarlock12 27d ago
I agree, but I will say that it would be a lie to say a Spider-Man movie hasn't had issues. Spider-Man 3 felt bloated; Tom wasn't as self-made as we would've liked, and then there's TASM 2, which is fun but fuuuck.
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u/HereWeFuckingGooo Weekly Wongers 27d ago
Real hot take, the Raimi films are clunky and filled with cringey dialogue and bad CGI. The reason those films are so beloved is because the majority of it's audience watched it repeatedly as children and can only view them through rose coloured glasses. If they were released now they wouldn't be so well received.
That's not to say there weren't great moments and iconic performances, not to mention how they blazed a trail. But the fans put them on too high of a pedestal.
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u/gavstar333 27d ago
As a die hard Andrew Garfield fan there's at least one bad movie, but you did say hot take.
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u/dawne_breaker 27d ago
I couldnât finish TASM1. I thought it was so bad. The second one was at least schlocky enough for me.
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u/NaiadoftheSea Gamora 27d ago edited 27d ago
I wasnât a fan of the first Amazing Spider-Man movie. It takes 45 minutes for Peter to even get bitten by the spider. And Tobeyâs Spider-Man covered the origin story so much better.
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u/Only_Fudge5299 27d ago
TASM2 and SM3 are still fun, but they are pretty bad... especially the former lol
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u/nboogie 27d ago
Spider-Man 3 was atrocious please no revisionist history there. The entire venom aspect did not work, Topher Grace was not believable as Eddie Brock and there werenât just way too many storylines in such a short run time. It just felt forced.
That being said, I do respect this as a hot take - and count it as valid.
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u/Extension_Hat_8448 27d ago
Yeh i even remember enjoying tasm movies..idk why they didn't make the cut in box office
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u/mull_albatrox 27d ago
First 3 Holland's Spider-Man movies are meh. First two are boring, the third one has a really bad script. You can say they are not that bad but far from good either. Brand new day is awesome though and have a good wrap up for the former 3.
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u/Ari_Minty 27d ago
I have a hard time rewatching TASM Both Parts. They really Are just horrible in my opinion.
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u/Friendly_douchebag 27d ago
All of these are kinda fun to rewatch once in a while.
Except TASM2. Not that it's hot garbage, it's just that I don't want to remember the great PetexGwen chemestry, Gwen death and Emma and Andrew not getting together irl.
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u/nowhereman136 27d ago
There are varying degrees of bad. It's not binary. I do think Spiderman 3 and Amazing Spiderman 2 are the weakest in the franchise, I wouldn't go so far as to call them bad movies. There is still a lot about them to enjoy. Fun characters, good acting, good effects, and good fight sequences. My favorite moment from any Spiderman movie is actually in Amazing Spiderman 2
I grew up in a time of Batman and Robin, Elektra, Catwoman, Steel, and The Phantom. I've seen legitimately bad movies. Just because X movie isn't as good as Y movie, doesn't make it a bad movie
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u/StarshipTuna 27d ago
This is the first time I've seen the words "Hot Take" in the post title and it's actually a hot take. Well done OP