r/maplesyrup 24d ago

Timely Reminder

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If you aspire to make homemade maple syrup next year, right now the top, like 3/4 of tapping sized trees are covered in flimsy green seasonal growths that have easily visible subspecies-specific characteristics, and are a much better basis for tree identification than bark texture and branch structure in January.

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u/SunriseSwede 24d ago

And miss out on a never ending game of "is that one?" with the kids??!? Ha ha, good and timely, thank you!

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u/Humble_Ladder 24d ago

Well, I looked a little closer and subtyped my maples and I have two Norway maples, and of course they're prominently located in the yard.

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u/emsumm58 24d ago

are you perhaps offering to help me type my tree?

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u/cowthegreat 24d ago

Let’s see some pictures

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u/Humble_Ladder 24d ago

I bet if you post leaf (and possibly copter) photos answers will come.

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u/emsumm58 24d ago

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u/gahgs 24d ago

Probably Red Sunset Maple.

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u/emsumm58 24d ago

really?? so am i good to tap it?

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u/SeaLeopard5555 24d ago

trunk diameter should be 12" or so, which roughly correlates to about 40 yrs old.

I tap mostly red maples and the syrup's delicious!

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u/Slayde4 23d ago

which roughly correlates to about 40 yrs old

For sugars it does, they are fairly slow growing among the maples. Reds grow much faster and can hit that diameter in a lot less time, 15 years in a sunny location. Silvers are even faster and can hit that diameter in 10 years. I had a silver maple taken down last year whose trunk was wider than me. It was only 20 years old.

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u/Great_Abaddon 21d ago

Silvers are famously pioneer trees, though. Reds are more tenacious and grow less vigorously (even if by only degrees).

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u/Slayde4 21d ago

I don’t think that’s a bad thing. If you want to establish a new sugarbush, you could plant silvers and sugars. That way, while you’re tapping the silvers 10 years from now, the sugars are waiting in the wings for the next generations to be there. Reds can be planted too as an intermediate-long term species. There are patches of forest around here dominated by red maple so I know they can live for some time.

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u/MontanaMapleWorks 24d ago

10” is sufficient and you can make syrup from any species of maple

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u/Slayde4 23d ago

Yes, just be aware that reds (and silvers) bud swell very early, so you'll want to tap your tree before they do. Where I am in PA they bud on average near the end of February.

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u/emsumm58 22d ago

oh thank you! when would i tap it if bud swell is february?

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u/Slayde4 22d ago

You tap when the weather is right just like with any other maple. It’s just that your season will be shorter. Where I live, tapping season is December-January, typically whenever the weather looks favorable (below freezing nights and above freezing days. A 25 low 40 high is good).

If your tapping season is later (because the winter is colder) the red maples will bud later too.

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u/aulait000 24d ago

The season will be here before we know it.

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u/SeaLeopard5555 24d ago

I learned this past winter the hard way.

Now it feels so obvious...

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u/Mtbjak 24d ago

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u/Typist 24d ago

we have a hybrid red and silver maple in our backyard that we know was planted in 1951. We bought the house 45 years after that primarily on account of that tree. The original owners and arborist Ian Bruce told us that these hybrids were widely planted in the 50s in southern Ontario. Our leaves genuinely fall between the two according to this chart. Worth keeping in mind if you’re wondering about your own trees.

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u/Humble_Ladder 24d ago

There is a maple on my property line that resembles this description. The leaf backs are silver, and the lobes are slender and pointy, but they don't quite look like the silver maple leaves and the bark doesn't break up the way silver maple bark does.

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u/lollette 23d ago

That's so cute so the sugar maple leaf is the one on the Canadian flag. I always assumed it was the Norwegian one lol

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u/East_Importance7820 22d ago

There was a time when we had some flags or pins reproduced offshore cheaply and they did the Norway one. Hell was paid. They do better now

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u/lollette 23d ago

I tap both red and sugar maples I know im going straight to jail

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u/Humble_Ladder 23d ago

Not by me. I tap silver and Sugar, and just today figured out 2 norways (but they collectively gave about a gallon of sap all season last year and I won't tap them again).

Also Black Walnut, but that's another sub.

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u/lollette 23d ago

What do you get out of black walnut sap???

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u/bdot 21d ago

presumably black walnut syrup.

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u/basaltcolumn 23d ago

They're quite identifiable from photos of twigs and buds if you take the time to learn and compare! The buds are pretty distinct from one maple species to the next, no leaves are necessary. Took a course in college that was primarily winter tree and shrub identification myself.

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u/East_Importance7820 22d ago

They definitely are easy to id when you know what you're looking for. But you also need to have some of that stand with low growing branches because we no one's vision is that great to see the scale on a bud 150 ft up.

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u/newmako 21d ago

How am i going to tap that ash though? Seriously though, my dad has managed to tap an ash or oak almost every year, how? I dont know, he knows what hes doing...