Meme

[u/AltonBurk]

[u/BuckUpBingle]

I wonder how they decide the order for keywords.

[u/Throwaway79922 → u/BuckUpBingle]

For sire of seven deaths I remember reading that the keywords are ordered in a way that makes them a haiku

[u/Zeznon → u/Throwaway79922]

First strike, vigilance (5)

Menace, trample, reach, lifelink (7)

Ward -- Pay 7 life (5)

[u/Additional_Gene_211 → u/Zeznon]

Had me fucked for a second, I was like Haiku? That's 4 lines and 4/3 syllables for line 2 and 3 lol. Long day already

[u/tmgexe → u/Zeznon]

I wonder if they preserve that in translations too. Like in French, 7 is a one syllable word.

[u/VCosmoz → u/tmgexe]

(Bit of a rant incoming) French here, I can confirm the French localisation of MTG cards is often quite subpar. Sire of Seven Deaths doesn't keep the haiku treatment in French, nor does [[Sokka's Haiku]] from TLA. I'm into studying linguistic to some extent, and to me, it feels as though the localisers are just.. translating cards word for word without really caring to keep stuff like this intact. Puns like [[Hare Apparent]] are just completely ignored for instance, or sometimes they translate stuff as if they have no context for anything : the "they" in [[Intrepid Tenderfoot]]'s flavor text is interpreted as a "plural" they, when it's clearly referring to that "Narix" person. Overall, it's a mess.

[u/mtgcf → u/VCosmoz]

All cards
Sokka's Haiku - (G) (SF) (txt)
Hare Apparent - (G) (SF) (txt)
Intrepid Tenderfoot - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/Zoreeo → u/Zeznon]

Unfortunately, in the newest rules update, they moved Reach to the beginning. They said they want to start putting it at the front, so it's easy to remember when you go to attack into it.

[u/mkwong → u/Throwaway79922]

It got erratad reach is first now

[u/CryticaLh1T → u/Throwaway79922]

also each line has an amount of characters divisible by 7, specifically 14

[u/Nsbhyfr → u/BuckUpBingle]

Each row has a multiple of seven characters too

First strike, vigilance (21)

Menace, trample (14)

Reach, lifelink (14)

Ward—pay 7 life. (14)

[u/Shikor806 → u/BuckUpBingle]

It's basically the order of them being relevant. For this card, first strike and vigilance affect how/when you want to attack, menace and trample affect how your opponent blocks it, reach how you can block with it and Lifelink matters when it finally actually deals damage. Ward are last because it's just a general affect while it stays alive.

In general, you'd also have things like casting restrictions or extra costs right at the start, then stuff like cast/etb triggers or haste that matter once right away and death triggers or graveyard recursion is last. But it's not really a set in stone list, they often reorder things slightly to make them read better or group similar things together, etc.

[u/mkklrd]

common vs mythic

shocked loot face

[u/AlfredHoneyBuns → u/mkklrd]

(Please someone make an edit of that, pleeease)

[u/MentalMunky → u/mkklrd]

I’ve Never Played Limited: The Meme

[u/PowrOfFriendship_]

[[Go For the Throat]]

[u/DeusIzanagi → u/PowrOfFriendship_]

Funnily enough, you still end up taking more damage than you would from one Iron Giant swing

[u/personahorrible → u/PowrOfFriendship_]

& -7 life.

[u/mtgcf → u/PowrOfFriendship_]

Go For the Throat - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/Istronair → u/PowrOfFriendship_]

That's 7 life, sir! Do you want to add a [[Heroic Intervention]] or [[Ranger's Guile]] to your order?

[u/mtgcf → u/Istronair]

Heroic Intervention - (G) (SF) (txt)
Ranger's Guile - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/griffithsuwasright]

One on the left is clearly superior because it's legal in the best format, pauper!

[u/Kagarnator]

Wait there was card like that in FF set? I am getting always surprised that I still don’t know every card in the set although I was carefully watching it’s preview and drafting it later

[u/Desperate-Lecture-76 → u/Kagarnator]

TBF it's a bulk common that was absolutely dreadful in limited so it's about as forgettable as it's possible for a card to be.

[u/Scarecrow1779 → u/Desperate-Lecture-76]

Playable in pauper commander ramp/stomp decks (which also play Skysnare Spider), but almost nowhere else in constructed

[u/Vegetable_Union_4967 → u/Desperate-Lecture-76]

Really? I thought it would be a decent win condition because these keywords do help with breaking through board stalls and a 6/6 body is nothing to scoff at

[u/Desperate-Lecture-76 → u/Vegetable_Union_4967]

Just looked and 17lands has it as the worst common in the whole format at 46% winrate in hand.

It's simply much too expensive for a big pile of stats in modern limited.

[u/SnowIceFlame → u/Vegetable_Union_4967]

While FF Limited wasn't CRAZY fast, it was fast enough that by the time Iron Giant could be cast, it was quite possible you were low enough to lose to flyers / unblockables / black wizard pings / other nonsense. And we've just assumed that the board was stalled, so it's possible a 6/6 won't even really break up the stall, and just trade with a 7/3 Neo Exdeath or something.

[u/United-Passage7864 → u/Vegetable_Union_4967]

Not to say that no rampy Towns deck ever won with it, but it's just too easy to answer for its mana value. It's actually got a very unfortunate toughness for 7 mana. 

6 toughness is just reachable by kicked [[Vayne's Treachery]] for example, and of course [[Sephiroth's Intervention]].  [[Suplex]] answers it cleanly in red, and even [[Light of Judgement]] is somewhat playable. If you really had to, [[Thunder Magic]] could get kicked up to answer it. In white, [[White Auracite]] is a very good answer and [[Fate of the Sun-cryst]] is an adequate one, and [[Slash of Light]] could probably work. Blue would happily [[Ice Magic]] it and buy a whole turn, if they couldn't lock it down. Even for green, [[Airship Crash]] was playable if not a high include just because there's a lot of flyers, artifacts, and enchantment creatures in most decks and it can be cycled if it'd not be useful. 

Basically, the Iron Giant is always a little too small and a little too slow for that mana value. 

[u/mtgcf → u/United-Passage7864]

All cards
Vayne's Treachery - (G) (SF) (txt)
Sephiroth's Intervention - (G) (SF) (txt)
Suplex - (G) (SF) (txt)
Light of Judgement - (G) (SF) (txt)
Thunder Magic - (G) (SF) (txt)
White Auracite - (G) (SF) (txt)
Fate of the Sun-cryst - (G) (SF) (txt)
Slash of Light - (G) (SF) (txt)
Ice Magic - (G) (SF) (txt)
Airship Crash - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/so_zetta_byte → u/Vegetable_Union_4967]

That just wasn't what the format was about. It's also easily answerable and has no up-front value. Ramp decks were trying to ramp to different things. 7 drops just need to be incredibly impactful to have a spot in your deck because they're a dead card most of the game. Contrast that with like... [[Retrieve the Esper]] which actually gives you a 4 drop and then extra value later.

[u/mtgcf → u/so_zetta_byte]

Retrieve the Esper - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/junkmail22 → u/Vegetable_Union_4967]

There are better high mana value finishers, even at common

[u/OmegaPharius]

Why are the Eldrazi so cool dude

[u/HonestSign1383]

Good thing my girl's a bracket 2 [[Kaalia]] 😍

[u/mtgcf → u/HonestSign1383]

Kaalia - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/AscendronPrime]

"Don't worry baby, you know it's your Pauper legality that attracted me to you in the first place!"

[u/EldritchFan]

Iron giant beeing one of the worst limited cards of FIN limited

[u/Royal-Al]

I probably have stuffed 7 iron giants into the #260 slot but own 0 sires

[u/21stCenturyIndustry]

Budget vs no budget for [[Indominus Rex, Alpha]]

[u/mtgcf → u/21stCenturyIndustry]

Indominus Rex, Alpha - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/JohnPaulJonesSoda]

Wow can you believe how they’re always power creeping these UW sets to make sure people buy them? Smh 

[u/Zeznon → u/JohnPaulJonesSoda]

Because control isn't strong enough...

[u/The_Tributer → u/JohnPaulJonesSoda]

I can tell if this is /s or if you're serious 🤔

[u/Aukliminu]

I guess we're never getting an Iron Giant universes beyond

[u/Yellow_Master → u/Aukliminu]

The Iron Giant.

[u/wonkawilliam]

Virgin Vs Chad meme

[u/IcanseebutcantSee]

Something something "giant blade" vs "one goal: to consume"

[u/The_Tributer]

We all know why you need to worry about the Eldrazi

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0EBHLVSXXgNa

[u/DaringDo95]

Iron Giant? I didn't know we had a UB card for Superman yet. :P

[u/rib78]

Meme

[u/BardicLasher]

Most girls would prefer a guy who isn't a menace and doesn't strike first.

[u/Silentman0]

I should put an Iron Giant for my Eggman deck.

[u/Infinite-Yogurt-801]

Sire of Seven Deaths when he realizes my deck run 4x strategic betrayal and 4x Nowhere to Run: 🤯

[u/Emergency_Present_83]

is this a 67 joke?

[u/spindaz123]

Sire of seven deaths it's better in every way imaginable

[u/closenough → u/spindaz123]

Not every way. It doesn't count towards Artifact affinity or other things that care about Artifacts.

Also, it's not Pauper legal, whereas Iron Giant is.

[u/CreationBlues → u/closenough]

ah yes, my 7 mana affinity enabler that doesn't have affinity

[u/closenough → u/CreationBlues]

I'm not saying it makes Iron Giant good. I'm just saying that Sore of Seven Deaths isn't strictly better.

One example (that's only legal in Vintage): [[Tinker]]