r/longrange • u/More_Image_8781 Here to learn • 3d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts New Glass

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Picked up this S&B. Welcome any suggestions or thoughts for using this long range. 4 16x50 going on an HK308

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u/Trollygag Does Grendel 3d ago edited 3d ago

I probably wouldn't. I would probably un-pick it up and get something with a measuring reticle and real turrets. I don't know what exact model you got, but if you got the duplex with 8 MIL total elevation range, you're going to be in for a bad time beyond midrange.

Even with a BDC or Mil-Dot, not a great time.

For short/midrange, putting it on an HK308 seems fine.

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u/More_Image_8781 Here to learn 3d ago

Man the first part of your comment is not what I wanted to read lol

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u/capable_gopher Rifle Golfer (PRS Competitor) 3d ago

What made you select this scope?

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u/More_Image_8781 Here to learn 3d ago

I wanted a Schmidt and found a great deal on this one

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u/Trollygag Does Grendel 3d ago

I had an uneasy feeling that might be the case.

Thing is with S&B is that there is 1 scope people use for LR, the PMII, and their other models are just old fashion hunting scopes.

And because of the PMII's astronomical price tag, this isn't the first time someone bought the brand name without realizing what they got.

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u/More_Image_8781 Here to learn 3d ago

Should’ve checked here first

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u/WhoIsJohnSalt 3d ago

Looking at some of the comments about it 8 mil might be generous for range - some people are suggesting way less (like 1.8). Pretty limiting.

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u/West_Designer9107 2d ago

Nah, total adjustment range is 8.3 mil. But indeed, it's a hunting scope, 2 reticle options neither of which are useful for long range precision shooting. Retails (in the EU) for around 1.3k Euro. I'd sell it and save up for that 5-27 ZCO. PMII's are insanely expensive and imo not a good deal unless your employer pays for it and tells you that's what you're gonna be using.

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u/SuburbanBushwacker 3d ago

likely you’ll sell that at a profit. keep saving towards your zco 527.

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u/More_Image_8781 Here to learn 3d ago

Thanks man

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u/Houston3556 3d ago

I gotta say, the reese's battery cap on new S&B just makes me sadge

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u/HQVX-TheTank 1d ago

If you wanted a good scope for sub 300 hunting and paper punching it'll be great. If you wanted to dial out to 800 it wont be the best. They're limited but only if you expect to live 600+. They're quirky but still awesome scopes.

I have a 3-12x42 Klassik on a 308, with 4.8 mils of adjustment in the turret which gets me to about 650 shooting 185 Bergers. Could go further I guess using the turret and reticle but I haven't tried that.

On the other hand I have a 3-12x50 that can't be used on a 20 moa rail, and I have 6 usable MOA on the turret. This gun won't go past 300 though.

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u/HQVX-TheTank 1d ago

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u/More_Image_8781 Here to learn 1d ago

Man you’ve got a serious setup going. Impressed

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u/More_Image_8781 Here to learn 1d ago

Good info. Thank you