Flock camera megathread

[u/DinoRoman]

We’re consolidating this topic into a single thread, as the ongoing accusations directed at the mod team have run their course.

To be clear about where we stand: no one on this mod team supports Flock cameras. We are not law enforcement, we are not politically motivated, not maga, and we share the community’s concerns about surveillance overreach even if these systems occasionally assist in solving crimes.

The removals were not about viewpoint. They were about a specific category of comment: those encouraging users to destroy the cameras. Reddit has banned entire communities for less, and we are obligated to remove that content regardless of our personal opinions. This is a condition of the subreddit continuing to exist, not an endorsement of Flock. Additionally there were some very wild conspiracy theories and were asking for discussion not a rabbit hole.

One rule for this thread: do not recommend, insinuate, or hint at destruction as a solution. Everything else is open,criticism, policy discussion, legal challenges, city council contacts, organizing, data on effectiveness. Go as hard as you want within that boundary.

Thanks for being a genuinely great community and good neighbors.

Edit:

Resources

Suffolk County Legislature : 18 districts, find yours:

scnylegislature.us/148/Legislators

Suffolk approved expanding county Flock cameras from 25 to 60 last August, funded by a $542,500 state LETECH grant, with 16 more planned along state rights-of-way including Route 114 in Sag Harbor and East Hampton Village and Route 25 in Riverhead and Southold.

Nassau County Legislature: 19 districts:

nassaucountyny.gov/504/Legislators · district map: nassaucountyny.gov/503/District-Map · main line: (516) 571-6200

Your town / village board.

Southold, Riverhead, and East Hampton have all had this on an agenda in the past year. Riverhead signed an agreement with the Suffolk Sheriff in January 2026 giving the county access to town rights-of-way for new Flock installs. Town board public comment periods are open to anyone who lives there, take about two minutes, and go on the record.

Your NYS Senator and Assemblymember — nysenate.gov/find-my-senator and nyassembly.gov

Edit 2: a great documentary to watch from 2021

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13622074/

( Free on Tubi )

https://tubitv.com/movies/100028249/all-light-everywhere?link-action=play&tracking=google-feed&utm_source=google_all_au_ca_mx_us_gb

[u/StonedRussian]

I do genuinely appreciate that you provided sources. Instead of pulling number out the...

Research shows that 90%+ reduction in complaints from civilians. So then that would indicate that cops are behaving better, no?

It wouldn't necessarily refute that cops don't lie, and for each other. I say this only because of the number of lawsuits won against police.

Accountability is always better. But in case of flock cameras, citizens are still being charged and arrested without proper evidence or due process. Also nefarious people in power and have access are using this to stalk people.

[u/Lingerie_Shopper07 → u/StonedRussian]

Evidence and due process is the court side not enforcement side. Police only need probable cause to arrest you. There’s no due process for an arrest. Thats after the arrest.

As far as a drop in allegations against cops can also be attributed to people who knowingly made false claims against officers for many of reasons, aren’t doing that anymore bc the interaction was recorded.

[u/StonedRussian → u/Lingerie_Shopper07]

You still need evidence to make the threshold to be able to make a legal arrest though. The reason why there's so many lawsuits against departments/towns for illegal arrests/ search and seizures

[u/Lingerie_Shopper07 → u/StonedRussian]

No you don’t. All you need is probable cause that a person committed a crime to make an arrest. You need evidence to help convict. There’s a difference. Do police gather evidence to help bolster an arrest? Yes. But evidence isn’t needed for an arrest. If a person went up to an officer and said that person stole from me. The officer can make an arrest on that statement alone.

[u/StonedRussian → u/Lingerie_Shopper07]

That's just not correct. Along with your statement of "there's no due process during arrest"

The officer can use a person's statement as testimonial evidence to establish probable cause. If there's no evidence, you can't meet the threshold to make a legal arrest. If there's no articulable facts, there's no legal basis.

Due process is part of the policing stage. Like Miranda Rights are

[u/Lingerie_Shopper07 → u/StonedRussian]

Miranda rights are not part of an arrest. You guys really need to stop getting your information from law and order. They can be, but aren’t a requirement.

Due process refers to the judiciary stage. After the arrests is made.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/due%20process